First post! And a long term storage question

02-14-2011, 08:48 AM

Hey all!
I've been lurking the forums for a bit now and I think this is the best community for cigar maniacs; and am glad to be a part of it.

So with that I have a question - is it okay to keep cigars in a humidified wine cellar? From all the reading i've done, I see that refrigerators and such can suck the humidity out of your cigars if you're using it as a form of storage. However, the wine cellar is kept at a constant humidity of %65 and a temperature of 55. I have a second small 25ct I keep some of my finer things in and was wondering if it would be okay to store them in there long term under those conditions.

What do you guys think?

md4958 · 02-14-2011, 08:52 AM

I dont see why not. As long as you have a stable humidity, there shouldnt be any problems... its pretty much a walk-in humidor that you just happen to have wine in as well.

Mugen910 · 02-14-2011, 08:52 AM

Go introduce yourself in the new member section.

HK3- · 02-14-2011, 08:55 AM

yes.

TBone · 02-14-2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

Go introduce yourself in the new member section.

This would be the right thing to do before asking questions...just sayin

Bruzee · 02-14-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

Go introduce yourself in the new member section.

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Originally Posted by TBone

This would be the right thing to do before asking questions...just sayin

Would you guys lay off the poor guy?

02-14-2011, 09:09 AM

lol

sorry guys..heading over to correct section now though I think I have missed my first impression

Mugen910 · 02-14-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruzee

Would you guys lay off the poor guy?

bite me Dustin!

shilala · 02-14-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty288

lol

sorry guys..heading over to correct section now though I think I have missed my first impression

Don't sweat it, they were just jerking your chain.
And on your question, hell yeah. It's work just fine.

emopunker2004 · 02-14-2011, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty288

lol

sorry guys..heading over to correct section now though I think I have missed my first impression

gotta have a sense of humor around here...some characters lurk on this forum

Mugen910 · 02-14-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958

I dont see why not. As long as you have a stable humidity, there shouldnt be any problems... its pretty much a walk-in humidor that you just happen to have wine in as well.

Devanmc · 02-14-2011, 10:09 AM

That is a very valid question, I believe that should be fine for cigars. As long as the room doesn't have the strong smell of wine.

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mosesbotbol · 02-14-2011, 10:10 AM

Your wine cellar is fine for long term storage, perhaps on the humid side actually at that temp. I would not worry at all.

markem · 02-14-2011, 10:28 AM

The only thing I would caution on is this: if you are storing other items in the same space, ensure that there is not any potential cross contamination. With traditional wine storage, one doesn't care much about molds or yeasts. These can be problematic for cigars, esp the molds. If you wipe down the wine bottles and other containers with something like rubbing alcohol or a weak bleach solution, you should be good to go.

Mind you, this is a bit extreme, but as a former wine collector, I could tell you horror stories of what tended to grow in the back of the wine racks and corners of the storage.

02-14-2011, 10:34 AM

Hmm, i'll have to keep track of this.. would air-borne yeasts even be a problem for cigars kept inside of their humidor?

I'd say the size of the wine cellar is that of a good pantry. I'll have to inspect the nether-regions of the room to see if I can find anything uninviting

02-14-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

gotta have a sense of humor around here...some characters lurk on this forum

That's not fair...

I got acquitted.

shilala · 02-14-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by markem

The only thing I would caution on is this: if you are storing other items in the same space, ensure that there is not any potential cross contamination. With traditional wine storage, one doesn't care much about molds or yeasts. These can be problematic for cigars, esp the molds. If you wipe down the wine bottles and other containers with something like rubbing alcohol or a weak bleach solution, you should be good to go.

Mind you, this is a bit extreme, but as a former wine collector, I could tell you horror stories of what tended to grow in the back of the wine racks and corners of the storage.

Mark, he said the closet is kept at 65%. So long as it stays below 80%, mold shouldn't be a problem at all.
Someone in another thread mentioned "imparting cigar smells through the cork". I thought that was a stretch of the imagination, maybe you'll speak on that. I don't know how easy stuff goes in and out of cork, or if it would possibly affect the wine.
It won't affect our wine here because it doesn't last long enough before Lisa and the girls drink it, so I wouldn't be concerned, but maybe a collector would?
Were it me, I don't think I'd even take a chance if I were collecting expensive wine, or long-storing it, anymore than I'd put Acids around my cigars. Granted that ain't apples to apples, but I'd still like to hear what you think. I'll be building a cellar somewhere along the way, and I'd really like to get some opinions.
/threadjack terminated

markem · 02-14-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Mark, he said the closet is kept at 65%. So long as it stays below 80%, mold shouldn't be a problem at all.
Someone in another thread mentioned "imparting cigar smells through the cork". I thought that was a stretch of the imagination, maybe you'll speak on that. I don't know how easy stuff goes in and out of cork, or if it would possibly affect the wine.
It won't affect our wine here because it doesn't last long enough before Lisa and the girls drink it, so I wouldn't be concerned, but maybe a collector would?
/threadjack terminated

Can't say for certain, Scott, since I've never stored wine and cigars in a way that they had direct air exchange.

Just to play devil's advocate, you seem to be indicating that if someone finds a cigar with mold on it that removing the mold is an unnecessary step as long as they store the cigar (going forward) below 80%?

SvilleKid · 02-14-2011, 01:45 PM

The only valid question/response I see that hasn't been addressed is: "Where are you going to keep you wine after the cigars take over the cellar?"

Devanmc · 02-14-2011, 01:47 PM

That is so true!

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02-14-2011, 08:48 AM	#1
Frosty288 Guest Posts: n/a	First post! And a long term storage question Hey all! I've been lurking the forums for a bit now and I think this is the best community for cigar maniacs; and am glad to be a part of it. So with that I have a question - is it okay to keep cigars in a humidified wine cellar? From all the reading i've done, I see that refrigerators and such can suck the humidity out of your cigars if you're using it as a form of storage. However, the wine cellar is kept at a constant humidity of %65 and a temperature of 55. I have a second small 25ct I keep some of my finer things in and was wondering if it would be okay to store them in there long term under those conditions. What do you guys think?

02-14-2011, 08:52 AM	#2
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: First post! And a long term storage question I dont see why not. As long as you have a stable humidity, there shouldnt be any problems... its pretty much a walk-in humidor that you just happen to have wine in as well. __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

02-14-2011, 08:52 AM	#3
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: First post! And a long term storage question Go introduce yourself in the new member section. __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

02-14-2011, 08:55 AM	#4
HK3- Cashmere Jungle Lord Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Boffa Location: The town so nice they named it twice Posts: 5,035 Trading: (48)	Re: First post! And a long term storage question yes.

02-14-2011, 09:09 AM	#7
Frosty288 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: First post! And a long term storage question lol sorry guys..heading over to correct section now though I think I have missed my first impression

02-14-2011, 10:09 AM	#12
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	Re: First post! And a long term storage question That is a very valid question, I believe that should be fine for cigars. As long as the room doesn't have the strong smell of wine. Welcome! Posted via Mobile Device

02-14-2011, 10:10 AM	#13
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: First post! And a long term storage question Your wine cellar is fine for long term storage, perhaps on the humid side actually at that temp. I would not worry at all. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

02-14-2011, 10:28 AM	#14
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,622 Trading: (47)	Re: First post! And a long term storage question The only thing I would caution on is this: if you are storing other items in the same space, ensure that there is not any potential cross contamination. With traditional wine storage, one doesn't care much about molds or yeasts. These can be problematic for cigars, esp the molds. If you wipe down the wine bottles and other containers with something like rubbing alcohol or a weak bleach solution, you should be good to go. Mind you, this is a bit extreme, but as a former wine collector, I could tell you horror stories of what tended to grow in the back of the wine racks and corners of the storage. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

02-14-2011, 10:34 AM	#15
Frosty288 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: First post! And a long term storage question Hmm, i'll have to keep track of this.. would air-borne yeasts even be a problem for cigars kept inside of their humidor? I'd say the size of the wine cellar is that of a good pantry. I'll have to inspect the nether-regions of the room to see if I can find anything uninviting

02-14-2011, 01:45 PM	#19
SvilleKid Yes I am a Pirate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 33°46′08″N 86°28′16″W / 33.76895°N 86.471037°W Posts: 2,776 Trading: (52)	Re: First post! And a long term storage question The only valid question/response I see that hasn't been addressed is: "Where are you going to keep you wine after the cigars take over the cellar?" __________________ Ceilin' fan it stirs the air, Cigar smoke does swirl. The fragrance on the pillow case, and he thinks about the girl. Thanks, JB, 1975.

02-14-2011, 01:47 PM	#20
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	Re: First post! And a long term storage question That is so true! Posted via Mobile Device