cigar info. please i am new to the site

[smokey69]

Hi, I have been smoking cigars on and off for about 20 yrs. I know a little about the brands and quality. I am not an avid studier of cigar brands.
Anyway i have the opportunity to buy a vast collection of rare cigars and 3 humidors. He states he has 3-500 cigars that are rare.
Here are some he lists below
Tatuaje 2008 Hoye de Monterey Special Edition Cubans 2011 Padilla Miami Oscuro Limited Edition 2010 Never released special edition AJ Man o War Maduro Graycliff Crystal Limitada 2010
Need some feedback about these cigars above
He wants 1k for everything.

[T.G]

While I don't think any of those cigars you listed are that rare, $2-3/cigar w/ humidors isn't a bad deal for those cigars if the cigars were stored properly and the humidors are decent.

[CigarNut]

It's a crap-shoot. You might win big, but then again might not. Are you able to inspect the humidors and cigars before purchasing?

[kelmac07]

Just because an extra band was placed on a stick (as with the Graycliff & the Padilla), does not mean they are rare/HTF. Now who knows, might be some other RARE stuff in there.

Hope this helps a little...

Tatuaje 2008 (Tatuaje 2008 what????)
Hoye de Monterey Special Edition Cubans 2011 (no clue on the CC side of the house)
Padilla Miami Oscuro Limited Edition 2010 (not rare, can be found easily)
Never released special edition AJ Man o War Maduro (rare in that you can only get these if your purchase the "Chest" which are around $ 300)
Graycliff Crystal Limitada 2010 (not rare, can be found easily)

[smokey69]

Originally Posted by CigarNut

It's a crap-shoot. You might win big, but then again might not. Are you able to inspect the humidors and cigars before purchasing?

yes, I am able to inspect and I may be able to get the price down, the humidor is very nice walnut JP that he states holds 250.
check out the pics. he sent me

[czerbe]

Originally Posted by smokey69

yes, I am able to inspect and I may be able to get the price down, the humidor is very nice walnut JP that he states holds 250.
check out the pics. he sent me

Looks kind of like a CI stocked Humi for the first couple of Pics. That Tat 08 is a yummy one for sure La Verites I think are good.

Best bet would be IMHO is to check them out do some research online for pricing and give him an offer of what you want to spend. Best of luck.

[T.G]

Looking at the pictures, the "Tatuaje 2008" is a the 2008 La Verite robusto. Somewhat limited, original MSRP was like $12-14 IIRC, but not really sought after anymore, plus it's only one. Of the cigars I recognize from the other photos, I don't think there is anything rare or HTF about them, some I even remember the CI/Cigarbid $2/stick sale emails on. Plus that's like 30 cigars, where are the other 470 he claimed to have?

That humidor is worth like $50, maybe. It's not walnut, it's just veneer over particle board and probably doesn't hold 250 unless you are stuffing it with cigarillos.
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/h...midor/#p-38484

[kelmac07]

I'm with Adam...that humi does not hold 250 cigars and the sticks shown (while decent sticks)...does not warrant $1,000.

[Dave128]

smokey69 - listen to these fellas, they know what they are talking about.

[MUNKY]

what they said.

[smokey69]

Originally Posted by T.G

Looking at the pictures, the "Tatuaje 2008" is a the 2008 La Verite robusto. Somewhat limited, original MSRP was like $12-14 IIRC, but not really sought after anymore, plus it's only one. Of the cigars I recognize from the other photos, I don't think there is anything rare or HTF about them, some I even remember the CI/Cigarbid $2/stick sale emails on. Plus that's like 30 cigars, where are the other 470 he claimed to have?

That humidor is worth like $50, maybe. It's not walnut, it's just veneer over particle board and probably doesn't hold 250 unless you are stuffing it with cigarillos.
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/h...midor/#p-38484

I just spoke to him and he states the humidor does in fact hold 250 cigars, it has 2 shelves with big bottom ., here are some more pics.

[AdamJoshua]

Those pics, in my opinion, are suspect at best, notice they seem to be just area pictures, not from a distance and as has been said multiple times here there is nothing about this deal that justifies anything close to $1000, or even close.

Also Adam was kind enough to go ahead and post a link to that very humidor, $75 and 100 count.

I'm throwing my hat into the "just walk away" pile.

[E.J.]

So if my reading comprehension is working, he wants 1K for a $50 humidor and some cigars like we are seeing in these pics?

Note, have only seen 1 of 3 reported humidors.....and the pics of less than 50ish cigars. Maybe the other 2 are Aristocrat Mini's and they are filled with sticks that I love....

I wouldn't pay $100 for what I have seen. To each their own….

[T.G]

Here's some photos of another MIC humidor of similar construction being dissected.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1728881

Nothing there to get excited about or bust open the wallet for.

[Dude Here]

At least the seller has some pretty good taste. Definitely inspect the heck out of those sticks before making any kind of offer. I personally wouldn't buy a collection like that from a private seller unless it was someone that I knew.

[FNA]

Anyone notice that the cigars some have called "not rare" "easily available" or 'not in demand' are cigars that you can't just go out and buy? Searh for the Graycliff - first 20 results have none for sale.

Search for the 2008 tat - I did see it out of stock, formerly selling for more than $14 a stick in the box.

Another poster says Ihe wouldn't give $100 for a $75 100 count full of cigars. How much do you think you will pay for a Padilla Burberry? Oh right, another "not rare" cigar that can't be bought.

[AdamJoshua]

I wouldn't take this personal, this is a cigar site with people giving opinions that were asked for by the poster, unless you are the seller, either way I don't understand the attitude, he asked for opinions and he got them.

[T.G]

I have a case of "Italian Salad Flavor" Jello from the 50's. You can't buy it anywhere. Now someone give me $1000 for it and I'll toss in a six pack of New Coke.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by FNA

Anyone notice that the cigars some have called "not rare" "easily available" or 'not in demand' are cigars that you can't just go out and buy? Searh for the Graycliff - first 20 results have none for sale.

Search for the 2008 tat - I did see it out of stock, formerly selling for more than $14 a stick in the box.

Another poster says Ihe wouldn't give $100 for a $75 100 count full of cigars. How much do you think you will pay for a Padilla Burberry? Oh right, another "not rare" cigar that can't be bought.

I didn't, but I don't like Graycliffs, Tats or Burberries.

[E.J.]

Originally Posted by FNA

Another poster says Ihe wouldn't give $100 for a $75 100 count full of cigars. How much do you think you will pay for a Padilla Burberry? Oh right, another "not rare" cigar that can't be bought.

Since I was the one who said that, did you want an answer or was the question rhetorical? Either way, my answer "$3 and whatever shipping is to get it to Tom."

ADD: I stand by, I wouldn't pay $100 for what I see in the pics. But if you would, great...see if you can piece it out with the OP.