Habanna 2000 Wrapper

Back about 8 years ago there were a lot of brands with this wrapper. Now the only one i can find is the Monte's. Does anyone know of another brand with this wrapper that is still available?

[billybarue]

Maria Mancini comes to mind:

http://www.jrcigars.com/index.cfm?page=cigars

[BryanB]

Mayorga uses a Habana 2000, also a JR cigar.

[Wharf Rat]

Originally Posted by chris66

Back about 8 years ago there were a lot of brands with this wrapper. Now the only one i can find is the Monte's. Does anyone know of another brand with this wrapper that is still available?

I believe most of them are now sold as a more environmental alternative to asbestos...

Originally Posted by Wharf Rat

I believe most of them are now sold as a more environmental alternative to asbestos...

I take it you didnt care for that wrapper much.

Originally Posted by billybarue

Maria Mancini comes to mind:

http://www.jrcigars.com/index.cfm?page=cigars

I liked the original blend which was a h200 wrapper, Binder honduran, filler hon/dr. Im just not crazy about nic. fillers. I havent had a Nicaraguan cigar that I have liked yet.

[Pat1075]

H upmann (the non vintage cameroon line) uses it

Originally Posted by Pat1075

H upmann (the non vintage cameroon line) uses it

Which one. i just looked through their line and dont see one.

[kenstogie]

I believe the Indian Tabac Super Fuerte Nats were (or maybe are) H2000's

[Wharf Rat]

Originally Posted by chris66

I take it you didnt care for that wrapper much.

Well, it wasn't just me. They were heavily hyped by JR et al. But, they rapidly got a rep for being hard to keep burning. This said, those early Mayorgas could be really tasty, when burning.

[Brooks W]

That wrapper was almost fireproof....LOL!

~brooks

Originally Posted by Wharf Rat

Well, it wasn't just me. They were heavily hyped by JR et al. But, they rapidly got a rep for being hard to keep burning. This said, those early Mayorgas could be really tasty, when burning.

Ya now that you mention it. I had some Maria Mancini's and Cabana y carbajal. with those wrappers. used get some serious tunneling, but the upside was that wrapper had some nice flavor. Its been about 8-10 years since I had that wrapper

This is an interesting article about the H2000 wrapper and the dispute between JR and Rocky

http://www.smokeshopmag.com/0200/cover.htm

[guado]

From what I recall it is still around, they just changed the name to habano and dropped the 2000 due to the "asbestos" issues of the early years of the hybrid wrapper.

[Hot Stuff x]

From what I understand, Habana 2000 is a trademarked name for that wrapper, trademark owned by General Cigar (now Swedish Match). Anyone else that uses the wrapper has to call it something else, such as H2000 or Habano. As far as I know they are all the same wrapper by different names.

edit. I see the linked article has basically the same information...that's probably where I read about it the first time.

[shilala]

I started some Havanah 2000 seed, along with Perique and San Andres MX. The plants are nice, I grew them last year, too.
First time I ever heard of it was when Richard (tzaddi) sent the seed. This makes twice.

Originally Posted by shilala

I started some Havanah 2000 seed, along with Perique and San Andres MX. The plants are nice, I grew them last year, too.
First time I ever heard of it was when Richard (tzaddi) sent the seed. This makes twice.

The wrapper is real flavorful. The first time i ever tried it was back in 99. I was sent a coupon for a free Cabanas y carbajal. Whats interesting is a friend of mine had just returned from Canada and brought back a Cuban Partagas it was corona size in a tube. That cabanas tasted almost like that cuban did.

Now I noticed that the Indian tabac super fuerte has a wrapper similar to that. they are calling it a maduro from Nic. but it has that reddish brown color the H2000 wrapper had. CI has them for 55.00. I think I am going to give them a try

[bigpedunn]

Only ones I Liked were the montes.

[Lucky_Hippo]

I always like the flavor profile of this wrapper, and to tell the truth I didn't have any more issues with them then I still have with some of the thicker maduro wrappers on the market today.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by chris66

The wrapper is real flavorful. The first time i ever tried it was back in 99. I was sent a coupon for a free Cabanas y carbajal. Whats interesting is a friend of mine had just returned from Canada and brought back a Cuban Partagas it was corona size in a tube. That cabanas tasted almost like that cuban did.

Now I noticed that the Indian tabac super fuerte has a wrapper similar to that. they are calling it a maduro from Nic. but it has that reddish brown color the H2000 wrapper had. CI has them for 55.00. I think I am going to give them a try

I have a ton of the Tabac Super Fuerte's. They're an excellent smoke.
The IT Maduros are a dyed wrapper. They bleed all over my face and fingers, but they're still a decent cigar, especially for the price.
They seem to have a similar wrapper to the Fuerte. I'll have to take a look at them. Thank You!!!