I need advice about developing this bead thing.

shilala · 02-13-2009, 06:05 PM

I don't know what to do, and I figure who better to ask than you guys?
This whole bead thing has been both a blessing and a curse.
I simply cannot keep up. I can't make beads fast enough, and I've made so many that I honestly cringe just thinking about having to make them.

I'm kind of torn, really. It's cool that they work so well, and it's cool that everyone loves them, and it's cool that they last forever and all that stuff, but it's just not what I like to do.
I enjoy inventing things. I've done it all my life. I've invented tons of stuff, I even invented a chicken once. Yeah, a chicken. Made a fortune but I spent it all, and gave the rest away. Creating stuff is what I want to be doing and all my spare time is sucked up making beads.

What I'm looking for is ideas about "what's next?"
I'd like to see someone develop the beads and make them more widely and easily available, because they totally kick ass. I don't know thing one about how to do it or how to go about it. I'd far rather a BOTL run with it because I can't imagine it otherwise. I just don't want that BOTL to be me.

Maybe you guys can come up with something that'll serve everyone and I can get back to doing what I do.

G G · 02-13-2009, 06:10 PM

I have lots of time on my hands. How much time does it take one man to do all you have to do. Do you actually make them from raw product into beads? And I'm sure you would have to be paid. What is your idea for that part, like a royalty thing?

taltos · 02-13-2009, 06:19 PM

Have you looked into putting a patent on the process and/or product in order to protect yourself? With a patent under your control, you could look to license the process and product to someone who has the plant capacity to make and market them.

Yazzie · 02-13-2009, 06:19 PM

Scott, you need to find someone who wants to buy your Bead Business or sell your Bead "Recipe" to someone who wants to take it and run....

Or you just need to hire some competent Whore who will work for you making beads....

I think that's pretty much your options......

G G · 02-13-2009, 06:29 PM

I am competent but that other part I'm not sure about.

groogs · 02-13-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggainey

I am competent but that other part I'm not sure about.

Don't sell yourself short.

JK.

GWN · 02-13-2009, 07:17 PM

you need an intern a la Kramerica.

02-13-2009, 07:19 PM

Hmm, I'd like to hear more about this chicken...

J/K, whatever you do the best to you.

gettysburgfreak · 02-13-2009, 07:21 PM

I need a career and lots of time, Ill take over for you scott

lightning9191 · 02-13-2009, 09:26 PM

I'd go for either patenting it or keeping the recipe a secret and look for a buyer.

G G · 02-13-2009, 09:31 PM

Maybe Jon Craputo would buy it. Just kidding.

Smokin Gator · 02-13-2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggainey

Maybe Jon Craputo would buy it. Just kidding.

rrplasencia · 02-14-2009, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yazzie

Or you just need to hire some competent Whore who will work for you making beads....

competent manwhore here

Partagaspete · 02-14-2009, 01:06 AM

First off, I was just thinking the other day "I need some beads, maybe I should buy from Shilala this time and try his product." Second, Patent your idea. Many years ago my dad invented a small automatic fish tank cleaner similar to what is now used in swimming pools and my mom kept telling him to drive down to washington and patent it. Long story short someone else patented a year or so lader and is now richer than shyte. Finally, after you patent it you can subcontract/hire people to do the work or sell teh patent outright.

Let me know if you are still taking orders as I was serious about buying some of your product.

T

kaisersozei · 02-14-2009, 09:38 AM

I concur with the patent recommendation. You definitely want to retain the ownership rights to this invention--we use them to maintain cigar humidifaction, who knows what other application they might have.

Then you can pursue a small scale manufacturer if you want to divorce yourself from the production process.

s15driftking · 02-14-2009, 09:42 AM

Patent first, loan second, Third = call a small business development firm and a lawyer.

Make some dollars!

shilala · 02-14-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s15driftking

Patent first, loan second, Third = call a small business development firm and a lawyer.

Make some dollars!

The first part is exactly what I DON'T want to do. I'd rather be shot in the face. That'd be less painful.
Dollars are nice, but it's not even close to the top of what I'd like to see happen.

02-14-2009, 10:18 AM

Scott, What exactly would you like to see happen ?

The above suggestions all seem great to me as well. If this is using up all your free time, you need to part with it. Selling your bead business or simply put a patent on them would be a direction to go. I am sure there are other useful applications for the beads and the market would make that decision.

shilala · 02-14-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mi2az

Scott, What exactly would you like to see happen ?

The above suggestions all seem great to me as well. If this is using up all your free time, you need to part with it. Selling your bead business or simply put a patent on them would be a direction to go. I am sure there are other useful applications for the beads and the market would make that decision.

You're right Marty, all excellent suggestions. I'm really glad I made this thread, it's been a huge help.
I'm still not at all sure about the direction "exactly", but because of everyone's suggestions I can see a couple avenues that I never saw before. That's helping me make up my mind about the "exactly".

It's all great input and this is the only place I could imagine getting it.

Snake Hips · 02-14-2009, 11:14 AM

If you don't want to patent it, then I'm sure you could just sell the process to some enterprising capitalist, one of the proclaimed manwhores above or some already-established company in the business, like Xikar. That'd be less work than a patent, it'd get it off your hands relatively quickly and it would keep the great product available for us. Or you could give it to me and I'll sell it

02-13-2009, 06:05 PM	#1
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	I need advice about developing this bead thing. I don't know what to do, and I figure who better to ask than you guys? This whole bead thing has been both a blessing and a curse. I simply cannot keep up. I can't make beads fast enough, and I've made so many that I honestly cringe just thinking about having to make them. I'm kind of torn, really. It's cool that they work so well, and it's cool that everyone loves them, and it's cool that they last forever and all that stuff, but it's just not what I like to do. I enjoy inventing things. I've done it all my life. I've invented tons of stuff, I even invented a chicken once. Yeah, a chicken. Made a fortune but I spent it all, and gave the rest away. Creating stuff is what I want to be doing and all my spare time is sucked up making beads. What I'm looking for is ideas about "what's next?" I'd like to see someone develop the beads and make them more widely and easily available, because they totally kick ass. I don't know thing one about how to do it or how to go about it. I'd far rather a BOTL run with it because I can't imagine it otherwise. I just don't want that BOTL to be me. Maybe you guys can come up with something that'll serve everyone and I can get back to doing what I do. __________________

02-13-2009, 06:10 PM	#2
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,730 Trading: (10)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing I have lots of time on my hands. How much time does it take one man to do all you have to do. Do you actually make them from raw product into beads? And I'm sure you would have to be paid. What is your idea for that part, like a royalty thing?

02-13-2009, 06:19 PM	#3
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing Have you looked into putting a patent on the process and/or product in order to protect yourself? With a patent under your control, you could look to license the process and product to someone who has the plant capacity to make and market them. __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

02-13-2009, 06:19 PM	#4
Yazzie Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Longhorn Country Posts: 1,674 Trading: (10)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing Scott, you need to find someone who wants to buy your Bead Business or sell your Bead "Recipe" to someone who wants to take it and run.... Or you just need to hire some competent Whore who will work for you making beads.... I think that's pretty much your options......

02-13-2009, 06:29 PM	#5
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,730 Trading: (10)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing I am competent but that other part I'm not sure about.

02-13-2009, 07:17 PM	#7
GWN Snow City Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Barrie, Ontario Posts: 898 Trading: (10)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing you need an intern a la Kramerica. __________________

02-13-2009, 07:19 PM	#8
nozero Guest Posts: n/a	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing Hmm, I'd like to hear more about this chicken... J/K, whatever you do the best to you.

02-13-2009, 07:21 PM	#9
gettysburgfreak Patriot Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Mitten Posts: 1,442 Trading: (2)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing I need a career and lots of time, Ill take over for you scott __________________ Author ofeath, Disease, and Life at War: The Civil War Letters of Surgeon James D. Benton, 111th and 98th New York Infantry Regiments, 1862-1865.

02-13-2009, 09:26 PM	#10
lightning9191 I think I'm normal... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kevin Posts: 1,007 Trading: (8)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing I'd go for either patenting it or keeping the recipe a secret and look for a buyer. __________________ I eat gummy bears by tearing them limb from limb and eating their heads last.

02-13-2009, 09:31 PM	#11
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,730 Trading: (10)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing Maybe Jon Craputo would buy it. Just kidding.

02-14-2009, 01:06 AM	#14
Partagaspete I Do Medical Things Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The 1st State Posts: 676 Trading: (8)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing First off, I was just thinking the other day "I need some beads, maybe I should buy from Shilala this time and try his product." Second, Patent your idea. Many years ago my dad invented a small automatic fish tank cleaner similar to what is now used in swimming pools and my mom kept telling him to drive down to washington and patent it. Long story short someone else patented a year or so lader and is now richer than shyte. Finally, after you patent it you can subcontract/hire people to do the work or sell teh patent outright. Let me know if you are still taking orders as I was serious about buying some of your product. T

02-14-2009, 09:38 AM	#15
kaisersozei The Homebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gerard Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 3,183 Trading: (40)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing I concur with the patent recommendation. You definitely want to retain the ownership rights to this invention--we use them to maintain cigar humidifaction, who knows what other application they might have. Then you can pursue a small scale manufacturer if you want to divorce yourself from the production process. __________________

02-14-2009, 09:42 AM	#16
s15driftking Go Browns! Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Bobby Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 2,763 Trading: (16)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing Patent first, loan second, Third = call a small business development firm and a lawyer. Make some dollars! __________________ diamonds/guns

02-14-2009, 10:18 AM	#18
mi2az Guest Posts: n/a	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing Scott, What exactly would you like to see happen ? The above suggestions all seem great to me as well. If this is using up all your free time, you need to part with it. Selling your bead business or simply put a patent on them would be a direction to go. I am sure there are other useful applications for the beads and the market would make that decision.

02-14-2009, 11:14 AM	#20
Snake Hips Götterdämmerung Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Tyler Location: Directly above the center of the Earth Posts: 1,013 Trading: (10)	Re: I need advice about developing this bead thing If you don't want to patent it, then I'm sure you could just sell the process to some enterprising capitalist, one of the proclaimed manwhores above or some already-established company in the business, like Xikar. That'd be less work than a patent, it'd get it off your hands relatively quickly and it would keep the great product available for us. Or you could give it to me and I'll sell it

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