CC's or NC's? - Page 9

Pseudosacred · 04-09-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Would the real shady please stand up?

mithrilG60 · 04-09-2012, 12:17 PM

Ok then, so we're saying here is that any non-US vendor who obeys the laws of their own country is shady because they don't don't follow US laws that have absolutely zero bearing or hold on them? Riiiiiiight......

awsmith4 · 04-09-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mithrilG60

Ok then, so we're saying here is that any non-US vendor who obeys the laws of their own country is shady because they don't don't follow US laws that have absolutely zero bearing or hold on them? Riiiiiiight......

I wouldn't try and convince him, less buyers means more stock availability for us

mithrilG60 · 04-09-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by awsmith4

I wouldn't try and convince him, less buyers means more stock availability for us

Stock availablilty isn't an issue for me as a Canadian

What I find mildly amusing/ignorant is the suggestion that any non-American is somehow doing something wrong by not obeying US laws that have no jurisidication over them in the first place.

Blak Smyth · 04-09-2012, 02:11 PM

I can count the number of times I was really blown away with an NC in the last year, 2.
I have had some great ones, and some bad ones but only 2 where out of this world.
I am blown away almost weekly with CCs and the rest are still really good. This has been my experience.
I would not want to have missed out on those 2 amazing NCs though as they where sooo incredible.
I think there is a place for both, CCs and NCs in my humi, I just prefer CCs everyday right now.

04-09-2012, 02:22 PM

Im smoking a cuban cohiba lancero i got one my last trip to london and you know what its plugged its **** nothing more nothing less im going to stub it out under my shoe and light up a opus X i got at foxs in saint James street the same place i got this lancero and you know what im going to enjoy it more than this.

Both are good smokes cuban and non-cuban if you only smoke one kind youre a fool if you think you will find a cuban taste in a non-cuban youre a bigger fool they are two different things but both are good at some point.

Blak Smyth · 04-09-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaver2145

Both are good smokes cuban and non-cuban if you only smoke one kind youre a fool if you think you will find a cuban taste in a non-cuban youre a bigger fool they are two different things but both are good at some point.

I agree, "fool" may be an extreme word though as many (myself included, although I am learning) may just be inexperienced in the world of CCs. If you smoke strong NCs all the time and an occasional CC, you will not taste the subtle nuances of that CC as you are used to such dominating obvious flavors found in NCs.

I smoked NCs everyday, and loved them. I smoked an occasional CC to try it out, and I could never understand the following CC had. I did a personal experiment (Advised by a friend) and quit smoking all NCs for a month while I indulged in tons of CCs and man I am in love now.

04-09-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I agree, "fool" may be an extreme word though as many (myself included, although I am learning) may just be inexperienced in the world of CCs. If you smoke strong NCs all the time and an occasional CC, you will not taste the subtle nuances of that CC as you are used to such dominating obvious flavors found in NCs.

I smoked NCs everyday, and loved them. I smoked an occasional CC to try it out, and I could never understand the following CC had. I did a personal experiment (Advised by a friend) and quit smoking all NCs for a month while I indulged in tons of CCs and man I am in love now.

May be fool is a bit extream but ill stand by it.

CCs take time to get used to this i agree with but dose it make them better than NCs that are good right off the bat IMHO HELL NO

pnoon · 04-09-2012, 02:40 PM

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akumushi · 04-09-2012, 02:53 PM

I've always heard shady used as a synonym for disingenious, similar to dodgy in British English- in regards to a dealer/source it would mean they were liable to lie, cheat or doublecross you in a deal. A shady dealer is one who might just as soon rob you at gunpoint than give you the stuff, or try to pass off something cut down with oregano or baby powder, or in the case of cigars, a glass-top box of cohibos. Now that's shady. Since it's a term that originated in a context where flouting the law is an accepted part of the game, simply doing something illegal doesn't make you shady- it's breaking the compact of trust with the customer that does. So in that sense, none of my sources are in the least bit shady.

bobarian · 04-09-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

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icehog3 · 04-09-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffPuffGive1

Do you guys think CCs will lose some of it's 'mysticism' if the embargo were to ever be lifted? But my opinion in regards to this whole matter is that I only smoke particular brands of NC's while me personally haven't had a CC I didn't like.

Good thing I smoke them for the flavor and not the mysticism.

jjirons69 · 04-10-2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Good thing I smoke them for the flavor and not the mysticism.

Got a lot of cedar and floral notes for the first two thirds, but the last third was nothing but pure mysticism.

Sounds like a good name for an Acid.

Whipper Snapper · 04-10-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Good thing I smoke them for the flavor and not the mysticism.

We all know you're a mystic Tom.

icehog3 · 04-10-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tecnorobo

We all know you're a mystic Tom.

You're confused with "masochistic", WhipperSnapper.

PuffPuffGive1 · 04-09-2012, 02:46 PM

Do you guys think CCs will lose some of it's 'mysticism' if the embargo were to ever be lifted? But my opinion in regards to this whole matter is that I only smoke particular brands of NC's while me personally haven't had a CC I didn't like.

akumushi · 04-09-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffPuffGive1

Do you guys think CCs will lose some of it's 'mysticism' if the embargo were to ever be lifted? But my opinion in regards to this whole matter is that I only smoke particular brands of NC's while me personally haven't had a CC I didn't like.

Of course. They will also go way up in price and have a temporary dip in quality as production is ramped up beyond capacity, so all of the noobs will be severely disappointed and think it was always a bunch of hype.

688sonarmen · 04-09-2012, 04:50 PM

NC's for me. Just for background info I have smoked several CC ranging in different maracas and most have left me underwhelmed. But, one PSD4 (the 3rd one I smoked) was the best damn cigar I have ever had, the thing was an experience and I went into it pessimistic only to be blown away. Then I bought a whole mess of CC's which I have been smoking this week and they are up there with my NC's but still not what I like. For me when I smoke a cigar and really pay attention to it I can find plenty of flavors. But that PSD4 was different, I was watching the Cards and just picked it on a whim thinking I would S can it and grab a NC. It's just not worth the time, $, and I run a risk with possibly drawing attention to my job. But man, if they all could be like that one CC I would be a CC man.

lilninjabuddy · 04-09-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieBklyn

CC's or NC's?

Yes.

688sonarmen · 04-09-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lilninjabuddy

Yes.

Good call.

04-09-2012, 12:17 PM	#2
mithrilG60 Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Geoff Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 733 Trading: (2)	Re: CC's or NC's? Ok then, so we're saying here is that any non-US vendor who obeys the laws of their own country is shady because they don't don't follow US laws that have absolutely zero bearing or hold on them? Riiiiiiight......

04-09-2012, 02:11 PM	#5
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: CC's or NC's? I can count the number of times I was really blown away with an NC in the last year, 2. I have had some great ones, and some bad ones but only 2 where out of this world. I am blown away almost weekly with CCs and the rest are still really good. This has been my experience. I would not want to have missed out on those 2 amazing NCs though as they where sooo incredible. I think there is a place for both, CCs and NCs in my humi, I just prefer CCs everyday right now. __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

04-09-2012, 02:22 PM	#6
Reaver2145 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CC's or NC's? Im smoking a cuban cohiba lancero i got one my last trip to london and you know what its plugged its **** nothing more nothing less im going to stub it out under my shoe and light up a opus X i got at foxs in saint James street the same place i got this lancero and you know what im going to enjoy it more than this. Both are good smokes cuban and non-cuban if you only smoke one kind youre a fool if you think you will find a cuban taste in a non-cuban youre a bigger fool they are two different things but both are good at some point.

04-09-2012, 02:40 PM	#9
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: CC's or NC's? Posted via Mobile Device

04-09-2012, 02:53 PM	#10
akumushi Habanos Apologist Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,298 Trading: (11)	Re: CC's or NC's? I've always heard shady used as a synonym for disingenious, similar to dodgy in British English- in regards to a dealer/source it would mean they were liable to lie, cheat or doublecross you in a deal. A shady dealer is one who might just as soon rob you at gunpoint than give you the stuff, or try to pass off something cut down with oregano or baby powder, or in the case of cigars, a glass-top box of cohibos. Now that's shady. Since it's a term that originated in a context where flouting the law is an accepted part of the game, simply doing something illegal doesn't make you shady- it's breaking the compact of trust with the customer that does. So in that sense, none of my sources are in the least bit shady. __________________ "Eventually, however, every ash must drop. And the drop usually is as sudden as it is final."

04-09-2012, 02:46 PM	#16
PuffPuffGive1 I'm the one who knocks! Join Date: Nov 2011 First Name: Alan Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 167 Trading: (5)	Re: CC's or NC's? Do you guys think CCs will lose some of it's 'mysticism' if the embargo were to ever be lifted? But my opinion in regards to this whole matter is that I only smoke particular brands of NC's while me personally haven't had a CC I didn't like.

04-09-2012, 04:50 PM	#18
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: CC's or NC's? NC's for me. Just for background info I have smoked several CC ranging in different maracas and most have left me underwhelmed. But, one PSD4 (the 3rd one I smoked) was the best damn cigar I have ever had, the thing was an experience and I went into it pessimistic only to be blown away. Then I bought a whole mess of CC's which I have been smoking this week and they are up there with my NC's but still not what I like. For me when I smoke a cigar and really pay attention to it I can find plenty of flavors. But that PSD4 was different, I was watching the Cards and just picked it on a whim thinking I would S can it and grab a NC. It's just not worth the time, $, and I run a risk with possibly drawing attention to my job. But man, if they all could be like that one CC I would be a CC man.

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