New York Yankees 2012

[BigJPinDC]

Took 2/3 from the Tigers but really was because we lined up our two best pitchers.

[Islayphile]

It'd sure be nice if the bats came alive in the KC series

[BigJPinDC]

Ca-no. Let's catch lightning in a bottle with Phelps tonight!
Also hoping for the emergence of the Soriano-Hughes-Robertson trifecta while Mariano heals. Please Joe.

[BigAsh]

Mo out for the year with torn ACL???....

Mariano Rivera's season -- and perhaps his career -- may have ended during batting practice on Thursday. The initial diagnosis on Rivera's right knee is a torn anterior cruciate ligament, Yankees manager Joe Girardi told reporters after Thursday's game in Kansas City. Rivera is expected to get a second opinion.

"If that's what it is, that's about as bad as it gets," Girardi told reporters.

The 42-year-old had hinted before the season that the 2012 season may be his last.

Rivera injured his right knee during batting practice before Thursday's game at Kauffman Stadium. Rivera was examined by Royals doctor Joe Noland and Yankees trainers before being sent to KU MedWest for an MRI.

Girardi and bullpen coach Mike Harkey picked Rivera up off the ground and carried Rivera to a cart to be taken off the field.

MLB Network showed live footage of Rivera being taken off the field. Rivera was slumped against the center-field fence during Yankees batting practice before Girardi and Harkey helped him to the cart.

YES Network had video footage of Rivera shagging fly balls that showed a ball hit by Jayson Nix that went over Rivera's head and he jumped to try to catch it, but it appeared his right knee buckled and he fell to the ground.

They also showed the reaction of Nix and Alex Rodriguez. Rodriguez, who was behind the batting cage could be seen saying, "Oh, my God. Oh, my God."

Rivera has shagged foul balls throughout his career in the big leagues. Considered one of the team's best athletes, Rivera has often joked that he'd like to come back as a centerfielder after retiring as a pitcher.

[jonumberone]

UGh, Mo going down is a killer.
While it sucks for the team and the fans, I really feel for Mo.
You got the feeling this was going to be his last year, but he was going to go away on his terms and on top!
It will be sad if this injury ends his career, but will be sadder if he tries to come back and isn't the same.

I think Hughes needs to stay in the rotation.
If Tex and Cano don't start hitting, might as well call this a rebuilding year and it won't matter who's pitching or closing for that matter.

In happier news,
did anyone catch AJ Burnett's line from the other night?

2.2 IP 12H and 12 Earned runs
Your manager must really hate you if he leaves you in to give up 12 Earned runs!

[yachties23]

I feel terrible for Mo. Honestly one of the best guys in sports. I've had the opportunity to meet him once and he was just the nicest guy. I do hope he can come back from this, because no player deserves to go out like that, specifically one of his caliber.

That being said, if a Met closer tore his ACL shagging fly balls, the jokes made at his expense would be limitless. So while I do feel terrible for Mo, I have absolutely zero sympathy for Yankee fans.

[jonumberone]

Originally Posted by yachties23

That being said, if a Met closer tore his ACL shagging fly balls, the jokes made at his expense would be limitless. So while I do feel terrible for Mo, I have absolutely zero sympathy for Yankee fans.

Shagging fly's is pretty common for pitchers around the league.
During BP the pitching staff works out in the outfield, they don't just sit around the clubhouse drinking beer and eating chicken.
Well they do on one team, but thats a story for another day.

[BigJPinDC]

I think you are confusing 'fans' of a particular team with jerks who happen to also be fans of a particluar team. Kind of shallow to make an inclusive statement like that about anybody. Unless it's Packers fans obviously.

[yachties23]

Originally Posted by BigJPinDC

I think you are confusing 'fans' of a particular team with jerks who happen to also be fans of a particluar team. Kind of shallow to make an inclusive statement like that about anybody. Unless it's Packers fans obviously.

Nah, I'm not. Ask Dom, he will tell you. Like I said, I have nothing but respect for the man, but that doesn't mean in any way shape or form I have to feel bad for the Yankees or Yankee fans.

Second off, He was booed at Yankee stadium two seasons ago. YOU BOOED MARIANO RIVERA. Are you serious? This man is the reason you won 5 world series since 96. Without him, you would have been just as good as everybody else, he was the difference maker, and he was booed. I still will never fathom that.

[jonumberone]

Originally Posted by yachties23

Nah, I'm not. Ask Dom, he will tell you. Like I said, I have nothing but respect for the man, but that doesn't mean in any way shape or form I have to feel bad for the Yankees or Yankee fans.

Second off, He was booed at Yankee stadium two seasons ago. YOU BOOED MARIANO RIVERA. Are you serious? This man is the reason you won 5 world series since 96. Without him, you would have been just as good as everybody else, he was the difference maker, and he was booed. I still will never fathom that.

I don't know why Chris has so much animosity towards Yankee fans.
Last time I checked he wasn't a Mets fan.

Yes, Yankee fans did Boo Rivera.
Though, you aren't painting a complete picture.

He was Booed in 2005.
The Year after the worst postseason collapse in sports history. (Yes, I said it )
We opened that season against the Sox.
Rivera's first 2 save opportunities, he blew to the Sox.
That's when he was booed.
While I don't agree with that, I am willing to say the fans had a little bit of pent up frustration, and the boos weren't 100% directed at him.
Actually the point is moot!
Real Yankee fans don't go to Yankee games, they cant afford it!

[yachties23]

Originally Posted by jonumberone

I don't know why Chris has so much animosity towards Yankee fans.
Last time I checked he wasn't a Mets fan.

Yes, Yankee fans did Boo Rivera.
Though, you aren't painting a complete picture.

He was Booed in 2005.
The Year after the worst postseason collapse in sports history. (Yes, I said it )
We opened that season against the Sox.
Rivera's first 2 save opportunities, he blew to the Sox.
That's when he was booed.
While I don't agree with that, I am willing to say the fans had a little bit of pent up frustration, and the boos weren't 100% directed at him.
Actually the point is moot!
Real Yankee fans don't go to Yankee games, they cant afford it!

LOL... I love the last line..

Ironically I'm going to 2 yankee games this season. Up in Boston and down in Baltimore...

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by jonumberone

Shagging fly's is pretty common for pitchers around the league.
During BP the pitching staff works out in the outfield, they don't just sit around the clubhouse drinking beer and eating chicken.
Well they do on one team, but thats a story for another day.

Maybe he should have been in the clubhouse eating chicken; our chicken eaters are still playing and Mo is looking at working the card and memorabilia shows. He should do quite well, he was always a class act.

[E.J.]

Just wanted to come on and say too bad for Rivera. Everything I have seen from him makes me feel like he is a classy guy. Hate when this stuff happen to athletes, but there is extra sting when it happens to one of the good guys.

Loosing Rivera is bad for baseball, hope he stands on a mound again.

[Dave128]

This really sucks. Rivera is, IMO, the best and classiest closer in baseball. This is no way for a first ballot HOF'er to end his carreer. I truely hope he is able to recover and get back on the mound for at least one more save.

[BigJPinDC]

Yachties you also one of those guys that thinks the Great Joe Torre got run out of town and unfairly disrespected? Just checking.

[BigJPinDC]

Interesting commentary on Michael Kay's show today - this is the time to elevate Soriano to the job he was paid to do.

Hughes - Ro - So. Could work.

[yachties23]

Originally Posted by BigJPinDC

Yachties you also one of those guys that thinks the Great Joe Torre got run out of town and unfairly disrespected? Just checking.

I've actually said my peace on Joe Torre.

I think he is the most overrated manager in the history of baseball.

The Thoroughbred horse he was given to ride by the combination of Buck Schowalter and Stick Micheal was amazing. There aren't many guys who wouldn't be hall of fame bound with that team to coach. Let us not forget the headline of the NY Daily News the day he was hired "Clueless Joe"

I don't think he was disrespected, and I think what he did to the yankees in his biography was horrible.

I think the guys who the franchise disrespected were:
Bernie Williams
Don Mattingly
Buck Schowalter

[Islayphile]

Houdini was a little shakey last night, but we've seen this before from him and he almost always gets out of it

Hence Houdini

[x man]

I hope so.

[BigJPinDC]

Originally Posted by yachties23

I've actually said my peace on Joe Torre.

I think he is the most overrated manager in the history of baseball.

The Thoroughbred horse he was given to ride by the combination of Buck Schowalter and Stick Micheal was amazing. There aren't many guys who wouldn't be hall of fame bound with that team to coach. Let us not forget the headline of the NY Daily News the day he was hired "Clueless Joe"

I don't think he was disrespected, and I think what he did to the yankees in his biography was horrible.

I think the guys who the franchise disrespected were:
Bernie Williams
Don Mattingly
Buck Schowalter

Interesting, I'm surprised that your blanket statement about Bombers fans and booing Mo didn't translate over to hate on the org for pushing him out. I agree with your sentiments on Sleepy Joe completely.

How was Bernie dissed? I had to sit through him playing take me out to the ballgame twice in the outfield on opening day.
Mattingly made his own bed archoring himself to Torre, and he must not interview very well to not land that job unless again it was about him being with Torre and he got his job now anyways.

Good stuff, cheers,
jp