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Old 11-02-2009, 09:33 PM   #81
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LOL... I too didn't really what they made. I went and looked and they have several CC names. I know the arguments for them being able to use them... I just think it is funny they would bust someone else's chops about using something so widespread.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:37 PM   #82
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Jeeeezzzz, why cant they all just get along?..... why cant people play nice?... another soap opera begins in the courts, over a symbol that belongs to the French anyhow... lol
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:41 AM   #83
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another soap opera begins in the courts, over a symbol that belongs to the French anyhow... lol
SUE FRANCE!!!!!

for having such a aesthetically pleasing design!!!
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:42 PM   #84
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SUE FRANCE!!!!!

for having such a aesthetically pleasing design!!!
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:50 PM   #85
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I have to agree with Altadis on this one. They have to protect their trademark or they lose it.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:11 PM   #86
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tatuaje sucks, altadis sucks, the browns suck.... this thread sucks
and Gurkhas are AWESOME cigars, right Bob?
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:53 PM   #87
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and gurkhas are awesome cigars, right bob?
damn right!
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:58 PM   #88
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damn right!
Well, atleast I know who I can bomb my Gurkhas to...
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:25 PM   #89
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Well, atleast I know who I can bomb my Gurkhas to...
Aren't dirty bombs a violation of the Geneva Convention?
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:28 PM   #90
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:29 PM   #91
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:52 PM   #92
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I have to agree with Altadis on this one. They have to protect their trademark or they lose it.
Even though they just trademarked it this year the day before the show he was showing off his new products at, then told him at his booth at the show the very next day to stop using the symbol?

I'm normaly all for protecting trademarks and I'm by now means a Tat fan boy (Perdomo fan boy maybe though), but this whole thing has reaked from the beginning.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:08 PM   #93
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Altadis will never win a suit against Tatuaje or anyone else for trademark infringement simply because you can't claim trademark infringement if the mark in question is a historical or cultural symbol, which the Fleur De Lys clearly is. In cases like this the court will only rule in favor if the symbol can be proven to have been CREATED by Altadis, which is clearly was not. Unless they were around 1000 years ago.

More than likely they are doing this because they are bigger, probably retain a nice law firm, and wanted to make life a little difficult for their biggest competition.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:23 PM   #94
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I wonder if they're going to sue the N.O. Saints too lol!
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:31 PM   #95
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anyone else research the lawsuit??

The Main Reason isn't about Tatuaje.

It's about Tabacalera de Garcia.

Which one you might ask??

That's why there is a lawsuit.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:51 AM   #96
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Altadis will never win a suit against Tatuaje or anyone else for trademark infringement simply because you can't claim trademark infringement if the mark in question is a historical or cultural symbol, which the Fleur De Lys clearly is. I
NFL holds the Fleur de Lys as a trademark in respect to football and NFL related merchandising. So that argument is clearly false. But if you want to look up where in the USC or in international intellectual property laws say that is the case then please prove me wrong.

Trademarks are an important part of society and in business. The maintain image and prevent or limit unfair business and imitators.
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:52 PM   #97
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Looks like they agreed on a settlement

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...4,2977,00.html
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:01 PM   #98
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btw, IANAL.
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:01 PM   #99
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Default Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars

No surprise there. In general, the people who feel the most vindicated or got the upper hand are the ones who make the announcements.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:20 PM   #100
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