It's happend

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by rack04

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but even if you are banned, and/or have your password scrambled you are still a member. When potential avertisers looks at the stats they'll see many more members than actually available. John doesn't care whether you stay or go. You're already a stat that is getting him paid.

We really are a bunch of postwhores now, aren't we? JC is pimping us out big time.

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

Seems entirely asinine. What has jc really purchased?

A number. Hard to sell companies on a product with no numbers to back it up. I just wish they could see through all the lies and see what the real product they are investing is has become.

Is membership the real number or is it site hits? If I was an advertiser I would wanna know what kind of daily "hits" / "views" his site gets. If that's the case anyone who goes to check the drama just helps his cause.

[SeanGAR]

Obviously the owner over there has a severe case of µPS. Not even smiling bob can fix that.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by ahc4353

Is membership the real number or is it site hits? If I was an advertiser I would wanna know what kind of daily "hits" / "views" his site gets. If that's the case anyone who goes to check the drama just helps his cause.

A lot of us are still helping his cause. I'm guilty of it. It makes me feel ashamed as of today to be contributing anything toward his financial gain. I hadn't given up on the site until after what Tom and Dave said today.

[floydpink]

I just popped in to Puff to see if my password still works. This thread got me curious. It still works. Browsing around, it seems that the thing I saw most was:

"Closing this up. Drama threads/bashing threads dont belong here. Take it to another board." Jon Caputo

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by andysutherland

A lot of us are still helping his cause. I'm guilty of it. It makes me feel ashamed as of today to be contributing anything toward his financial gain. I hadn't given up on the site until after what Tom and Dave said today.

I concur, but there is still hope for some of the drowning gorillas over there. With all the censorship and selective posting it will be hard to get them aboard the life raft, but if we can save one, it is well worth it.

Originally Posted by floydpink

I just popped in to Puff to see if my password still works. This thread got me curious. It still works. Browsing around, it seems that the thing I saw most was:

"Closing this up. Drama threads/bashing threads dont belong here. Take it to another board." Jon Caputo

And don't even think about telling the truth about what happened over there.

[white_s2k]

Originally Posted by chippewastud79

And don't even think about telling the truth about what happened over there.

Jon C will just edit your post and close the thread so that all of the advertisers and new members not in the know won't have a clue as to what he is doing to that place. The guy is a Class A Jackass, and why anyone would even want to continue on with that board (especially as a mod) is completely beyond me.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by white_s2k

why anyone would even want to continue on with that board (especially as a mod) is completely beyond me.

They'll (mods) be here full-time soon (I hope). I hate to hear about what they're going through as of late. But I deeply respect that they are following through with their commitments.

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

It's built in Alan,we can see when it happens.

Well, If you use a router they would only see one IP address when in realty you may have five correct.

[white_s2k]

Originally Posted by andysutherland

They'll (mods) be here full-time soon (I hope). I hate to hear about what they're going through as of late.

Absolutely. I tried to hang on there as long as I could, but Jon lied to everybody about what that site was going to be. I certainly don't know the mods over there as well as some, but I would not be surprised if they get fed up eventually too. But regardless, I hope all of the drama calms down for them.

[AD720]

Originally Posted by piperman

Well, If you use a router they would only see one IP address when in realty you may have five correct.

No. There is a difference between your router (dhcp) ip address and your "real world" IP address that is your cable modem or dsl modem or whatever. All the computers on your network share that "real world" IP.

[borndead1]

Originally Posted by andysutherland

A lot of us are still helping his cause. I'm guilty of it. It makes me feel ashamed as of today to be contributing anything toward his financial gain. I hadn't given up on the site until after what Tom and Dave said today.

That is exactly why I kept bugging them to ban me and delete my account. I don't want my username to put 1 penny in his pocket.

[TomHagen]

I Love Cigar Asylum!!

... crisis situations bring people together, and now more than ever do I believe the Cigar Asylum family is more solidified and united. I am happier than ever to be here.

I got to admit, I was hoping that the place would stay the "same". But after that Asylum business, with censoring etc. Well, after the thread got deleted, that was too much in my opinion.

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by piperman

Well, If you use a router they would only see one IP address when in realty you may have five correct.

You need a proxy server if you want sneak in a second account without being obvious.

Originally Posted by AD720

No. There is a difference between your router (dhcp) ip address and your "real world" IP address that is your cable modem or dsl modem or whatever. All the computers on your network share that "real world" IP.

That's why, I got two accounts over there or did.

[Starscream]

I log on under the same account both here and at work. So if another guy at work became a member and logged in at work, wouldn't that be seen as two accounts from one address (seen as multiple accounts)?

Originally Posted by PaleRider

I got to admit, I was hoping that the place would stay the "same". But after that Asylum business, with censoring etc. Well, after the thread got deleted, that was too much in my opinion.

So did I, Oh well hope everyone can make it over here, there isn't much going on over there.

Hey get out of my chair, never mind.

[Kreth]

I don't really have a dog in this fight, since I only joined the other place just in time for the change. But I have to say in all the time I've spent on forums, I have never seen someone so thoroughly piss off his faithful membership and run things into the ground. I hope he's got a good excuse for his investors when everyone gets tired of watching the train-wreck, and they want to know why traffic is so low.

Originally Posted by andysutherland

I log on under the same account both here and at work. So if another guy at work became a member and logged in at work, wouldn't that be seen as two accounts from one address (seen as multiple accounts)?

Without getting too technical, it depends on how your firewall is set up at work. Usually when you look for multiple accounts, you're looking for multiple accounts from a home DSL or cable IP hostname, though.