Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?

congrats!

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by Robert Mabona

and you stumped all of them? who are you, michel rolland?

No, I simply tasted with them, save for Parker. And watched them falter. Parker's notes are full of technical errors pointing to his obvious lack of understanding how wine is made. Others make errors when trying to guess how a wine was made. ALL of them falter when trying to assign particular flavors and traits to what they believe are choices made in a winery, beliefs that are often in error. I won't even get to the level of wine guys in retail and restaurants, very few are qualified and simply recite some keywords they learned without understanding what they actually mean.

In 2001, just a month after 9/11, I was in Boston on business and happened to be invited to attend their annual Mondavi Dinner. Only the best retail account people and their best customers buying Mondavi wines were allowed to attend (Mondavi paid for it) and the dinner started with a blind tasting, they poured 6 vintages of Mondavi Reserve, and people were asked to pin vintages to each glass. By the time they revealed 2nd glass, only one person in the room had 2 for 2. Let me repeat again, BEST retailers selling the wine.

I can cite many more examples of "professionals" failing miserably and personally observed by me. But hey, sounds like you have them all beat, my hat is off to you.

Anyway, its not a wine discussion thread and we disagree a lot, I see. No biggie to me.

[marge796]

Congrats Crystal!!!








Chris.....

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

No, I simply tasted with them, save for Parker. And watched them falter. Parker's notes are full of technical errors pointing to his obvious lack of understanding how wine is made. Others make errors when trying to guess how a wine was made. ALL of them falter when trying to assign particular flavors and traits to what they believe are choices made in a winery, beliefs that are often in error. I won't even get to the level of wine guys in retail and restaurants, very few are qualified and simply recite some keywords they learned without understanding what they actually mean.

In 2001, just a month after 9/11, I was in Boston on business and happened to be invited to attend their annual Mondavi Dinner. Only the best retail account people and their best customers buying Mondavi wines were allowed to attend (Mondavi paid for it) and the dinner started with a blind tasting, they poured 6 vintages of Mondavi Reserve, and people were asked to pin vintages to each glass. By the time they revealed 2nd glass, only one person in the room had 2 for 2. Let me repeat again, BEST retailers selling the wine.

I can cite many more examples of "professionals" failing miserably and personally observed by me. But hey, sounds like you have them all beat, my hat is off to you.

Anyway, its not a wine discussion thread and we disagree a lot, I see. No biggie to me.

i never said i'm more qualified than any of them. you inferred that. i simply asked you to "try me". one doesn't have to be famous to make valid, accurate statements. but you're spending a lot time entering text, shouldn't you be in the cellar? what labels do you "make-wine" for?
mondavi wines are boring, even at their best?
continuum on the other hand

crystal, let us know what you got and post pics!

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by Robert Mabona

... but you're spending a lot time entering text...

So, you're implying TRYING YOU, as you challenged, would not be a waste of time?

Funny... I am nowhere near Central FL any time soon, in any case...

[icehog3]

My butt itches.

moving on........

[mash]

Originally Posted by icehog3

My butt itches.

That's not the same as "try me" is it?
Oh please, say no.

[CigarNut]

Originally Posted by icehog3

My butt itches.

TMI, Tom, TMI. Particularly given where this thread seems headed

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by CigarNut

TMI, Tom, TMI. Particularly given where this thread seems headed

Why do you think it itches?

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Why do you think it itches?

Tom, methinks Michael does not understand the significance of your itchy bottom.

Congrats Crystal!

[GKitty]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Tom, methinks Michael does not understand the significance of your itchy bottom.

Wait... there's a significance to the itchy bottom?!?! I thought it was just a sign he's out of:

[Whipper Snapper]

I don't know anything about wine or cigars.
I do know a lot about my butt itching however.
At least I fit in this thread somewhere.

[TheRiddick]

We're getting real close to discussing burlap underwear...

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

We're getting real close to discussing burlap underwear...

Closer than you know.

[GKitty]

Enough talk of itchy butts, let's check out the loot!! My prize package arrived today and Lindsay did right by me. Participating was an educating experience.





These were the tie-breaker questions:
1) Which person in history invented the cigar bands we now take for granted and what was the reason behind the invention?
Catherine the Great - to keep the tobacco from staining her fingers.

2)From what culture did the modern word "cigar" come from and how was it originally spelled? Also, what was the original British
spelling for "cigar?"
The Origin of the word cigar comes from the native language of the ancient Mayans. The Mayans called the cigar a "Ciq-Sigan". The New English Dictionary of 1735 called the cigar a "seegar".

[Kreth]

Nice score. Congrats!
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