Fake Cohiba?

[T.G]

Originally Posted by iaMkcK

And here we are:

Yup, that's the lawsuit band.

Not fake. Just a different manufacturer.

More info here:
http://www.afficionadocigar.com/webf...s/show/id/2860

[Sonic04GT]

Originally Posted by T.G

Yup, that's the lawsuit band.

Not fake. Just a different manufacturer.

More info here:
http://www.afficionadocigar.com/webf...s/show/id/2860

"In addition to admitting infringement, the defendants agreed to turn over approximately 10,000 yellow band Cohiba cigars to General for destruction."

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Sonic04GT

"In addition to admitting infringement, the defendants agreed to turn over approximately 10,000 yellow band Cohiba cigars to General for destruction."

It was only 137 bands.

You take things very literally and seriously.

Originally Posted by pnoon

It was only 137 bands.

You take things very literally and seriously.

Glad to know what I should be looking for... Can anyone post an Authentic band for comparison?

[markem]

Originally Posted by Robulous78

Glad to know what I should be looking for... Can anyone post an Authentic band for comparison?

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/bra...x?brand=Cohiba

Originally Posted by markem

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/bra...x?brand=Cohiba

Thanks Markem...

[iaMkcK]

I had thought that as well, but the bands that I saw that were from that lawsuit, did not resemble the one I had. And the fact that it was a green cigar sends up even more red flags. Maybe they took the bands and put them on some candelas. Either way, I'll concede -- I stand corrected.

EDIT :: Interesting that a cigar from 6 years ago is floating around up here.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by iaMkcK

I had thought that as well, but the bands that I saw that were from that lawsuit, did not resemble the one I had. And the fact that it was a green cigar sends up even more red flags. Maybe they took the bands and put them on some candelas. Either way, I'll concede -- I stand corrected.

EDIT :: Interesting that a cigar from 6 years ago is floating around up here.

There actually is/was a 4th Cohiba, made by Monti Cristi, something about only being sold on the island, I don't know for certain if they are still being produced, but I believe they were still in production about 4-5 years ago.

Some of those have been known to sneak off the island.

Maybe I have the band assignments backwards.

[pnoon]

To be clear, there is no correlation, association, or similarity between NCs and CCs of the same name.

Originally Posted by pnoon

To be clear, there is no correlation, association, or similarity between NCs and CCs of the same name.

So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Robulous78

So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?

Absolutely not.

[AlohaStyle]

Originally Posted by Robulous78

So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?

To add to the other answers... the Cuban brand and NC brand have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Totally separate companies/blends/marketing etc. Nothing. The NC name is a blatant copy of the cuban name/image here in the US.

And to think a CC Cohiba Robusto is too expensive... they are cheaper than a lot of high-end Nicaraguan and Dominicans. Do you buy the Tatuaje Monster cigars? They are more expensive than I pay for Cohiba Robustos.

[JJKJR]

I got these same cigars as a gift from my wife who was in Haiti. She bought them from a roadside vender being told and believing they were CC's. Just as everyone else stated they were very poorly constructed and 2 of the ten pack had beetle holes in them. I did the freezer kill on the remaining 8. I didn't especially like the cigars. I can't say they were the worse I ever smoked but they were far from the best. I wouldn't consider getting these again. I remember reading somewhere on this site that the true NC's band has the "O" in Cohiba colored red.

If what I have gathered from my reading is correct... CC's have a unique taste/flavor you only get from CC's... I thought this was just an addition to the NC counterparts flavor profile...

I wish I could be more specific, but I have no experience with CC's so I don't even know if this is true... Guess I need to make some Canadian friends... LoL

[havanabound]

Damn it!

My buddy who goes to cuba, keeps bringing back discounted boxes of cohibas that he gets from someone he "trusts". These cigars in the most legitimate looking box, sealed with government seal and all (box of 25) all have the 4 dots above the cohiba name.

My other friends that went to an actual government store and bought them full price and legitimately, those all had 3 dots. And I've smoked them all. Now I'm left with about 20 of the fake ones. I must say though, they're still pretty damn fine smokes, even though they're probably knock offs.

The one I just received from switzerland has 3 dots.

[aj_chicago]

All I can say is I sure do miss the "fake" yellow band Cohibas. I like mild and I think they were a great bang for the buck and thoroughly enjoyed them. Does anyone know what brand/name they were replaced with after General Cigars won the law suit with the "non-Cuban" (3rd) Cohiba company?

[Sweet_Leaf_PDX]

I was recently in the Dominican Republic and saw tons of these fake Cohibas for sale. At the only legitimate cigar store I found there, legit Cohibas were very expensive. I ended up buying a Paratags, Punch and RyJ CC and found them all to be excellent smokes.

To the point of not being able to judge a CC by it's NC counterpart - RyJ are not normally my thing, but I loved the CC version.

Hypothesis: Your odds of getting a legit CC are better, assuming you don't 100% trust the source, if you go with a brand other than Cohiba?

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Sweet_Leaf_PDX

I was recently in the Dominican Republic and saw tons of these fake Cohibas for sale. At the only legitimate cigar store I found there, legit Cohibas were very expensive. I ended up buying a Paratags, Punch and RyJ CC and found them all to be excellent smokes.

To the point of not being able to judge a CC by it's NC counterpart - RyJ are not normally my thing, but I loved the CC version.

Hypothesis: Your odds of getting a legit CC are better, assuming you don't 100% trust the source, if you go with a brand other than Cohiba?

There is no "counterpart" or association other than the two share the same name. In no way should they ever be associated. There is no such thing as a "non-Cuban version" of a Cuban marca - or vice versa. It would be no different than if you slapped a Partagas band on a Tatuaje or Gurkha and compared the two.

[pektel]

Originally Posted by pnoon

It would be no different than if you slapped a Partagas band on a Gurkha.

Sounds like a prank someone could play on Tom at a herf.