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[kugie]

Originally Posted by jmsremax

the rumor last night was a 3rd round pick for Moss

Still the rumor

[Bruins Fan]

Originally Posted by jmsremax

the rumor last night was a 3rd round pick for Moss

Got to be more then that? If they let him walk after the season the Pats get a third from the team that signs him anyway.

[jmsremax]

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

Got to be more then that? If they let him walk after the season the Pats get a third from the team that signs him anyway.

It's a done deal.....we traded him for a 3rd round pick.

[Bruins Fan]

To let him go for that he must of been to much of a problem in the locker room?
Lot of young guys on that team that don't need to be influenced by a bad apple like him.
I am glad he is gone, all you had to do was be a little physical with him on the line and he would not be a factor, what did Revis call him a slouch
We need an over under on the number of interceptions Farve will throw trying to force the ball to Moss.

[Bunker]

He started earlier with the contract whining, as good as he is, history shows that the alligator arms can't be too far away.

When he is on and wants to play there is no one that can cover him, even doubled Brady usually tries at least 1-2 deep balls to him. When he doesn't want it you don't know he is on the field (like Monday night).

Yeah baby!!!!! Welcome home Randy!!!

[VTDragon]

Mixed feelings on this one. He is great when he wants to be. Other times, like Mon. in Miami, he just doesn't show up.

He made a telling comment after the game when asked about not having any receptions, he tartly responded about "the game plan" while making it obvious that he did not like "the game plan" at all. It was then reported that he and Belicheck got into a heated "discussion" at Gillette the next day. I wonder what they were talking about?

The sad fact is that Randy is all about only Randy. Brady and Belicheck got him to appear to buy into the team concept for a while, but as with any prima donna, he sulks and becomes disruptive when things don't go his way.

Having said all that, I'll be sorry to see him go... he is a GREAT talent, but the TEAM has to come first and I would rather see us get something for him now than let him go for nothing at the end of the season and still have to endure all the attendant distractions he is sure to bring if he stays. Remember the last month of Manny with the Sox. We do not need more of that.

Originally Posted by VTDragon

Mixed feelings on this one. He is great when he wants to be. Other times, like Mon. in Miami, he just doesn't show up.

He made a telling comment after the game when asked about not having any receptions, he tartly responded about "the game plan" while making it obvious that he did not like "the game plan" at all. It was then reported that he and Belicheck got into a heated "discussion" at Gillette the next day. I wonder what they were talking about?

The sad fact is that Randy is all about only Randy. Brady and Belicheck got him to appear to buy into the team concept for a while, but as with any prima donna, he sulks and becomes disruptive when things don't go his way.

Having said all that, I'll be sorry to see him go... he is a GREAT talent, but the TEAM has to come first and I would rather see us get something for him now than let him go for nothing at the end of the season and still have to endure all the attendant distractions he is sure to bring if he stays. Remember the last month of Manny with the Sox. We do not need more of that.

It's understandable to say that, and has been said many times about him. Would it be different had they gotten that perfect season (which I was rooting for them to do, btw)? Had he been teamed with a HOF qb in the prime of his career early in his career would he be viewed differently (ala Michael Irvin with Aikman)? Quite possibly. Look at his early career and the fact that the QB was changing left and right, and he still put up the big numbers. the last few years in NE have been a lot better and more calm. I see his comments being just what they were...him saying what he felt about his contract situation. He was just to honest about it. I could easily be wrong, but that's what I see.

As far as him not showing up, honestly, it's different for a receiver, as they rely on someone else to get the ball to them. Not every great RB was a stud every game they played. Look at AP, for example. He's had a 297 yd game, and then another at 20 yds. When measuring anyone against Jerry Rice, you have to remember that Rice is the PLATINUM standard (beyond gold). He is so far above everyone, that there is no comparison. As of right now, he's 4th in receiving yards in NFL history, and could conceivably pass TO this year with Isaac Bruce sitting at the #2 spot.

And let me say this...I had a conversation one time with a former teammate of his (Moss), and essentially was told that Randy does give a great effort, but the problem was that when things got tough and weren't easy for him, he wasn't used to it and at the time didn't know how to respond and people viewed it as a lack of effort. Has that changed? No clue, but once labeled with a reputation like that, it is tough to shake. I'm sure that there are MANY players out there that are as bad or worse than he actually is. Just my

[Bruins Fan]

The story that is coming out Moss had a fight with coaches and players on the flight home from Miami?
Now is is getting to look more like dumping him then a trade, just like wth Maroney.

[Gophernut]

Originally Posted by Wanger

Yeah baby!!!!! Welcome home Randy!!!

Couldn't agree more! This helps out immediately! And that one handed catch that he made in the back of the endzone over Revis, WOW. (I know Revis had a bad hammy, maybe he should have been in training camp since he was under contract...) Moss can still bring it. (when he wants to)

[Mugen910]

Well if anyone wants Authentic Moss jerseys for $75 now is the time.


Moss Throwback Jersey: Original $79.95.... Now $25
Moss Authentic Jersey: Original $249.99....Now $$75

proshop.com

[VTDragon]

Originally Posted by Mugen910

Well if anyone wants Authentic Moss jerseys for $75 now is the time.


Moss Throwback Jersey: Original $79.95.... Now $25
Moss Authentic Jersey: Original $249.99....Now $$75

proshop.com

Maybe the Pats will assign his number to the next guy they pick up, just like they did with Maroney's when Woodhouse got it. Then, you just need to duct tape over the name with the new guys'.

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by VTDragon

Maybe the Pats will assign his number to the next guy they pick up, just like they did with Maroney's when Woodhouse got it. Then, you just need to duct tape over the name with the new guys'.

I think the non-authentic one you can steam it off...the authentic one you might just unstitch the name

[Gargoyle]

Had an interesting conversation with Vin a few days ago. It seems the Patriots are doomed to lose players based on the season ticket images. We were heading to the 9/26 game w/ the Bills and I joked that I was worried about Moss.

Game 1 (9/12) tix -> Maroney... inactive for the game, traded to Denver on 9/15.
Game 2 (9/26) tix -> Faulk... on IR on 9/22
Game 3 (10/17) tix -> Moss... traded to Vikings on 10/6

I think Logan Mankins was on one of the pre-season tickets too... but I'm not positive on that.

So who's up next for the curse?
Game 4 (10/31) tix -> Welker
Game 5 (11/21) tix -> Brady
Game 6 (12/6) tix -> Bruschi... he's already gone. It is Tedy Bruschi night.
Game 7 (12/19) tix -> Wilfork
Game 8 (1/2) tix -> Mayo

[VTDragon]

Originally Posted by Gargoyle

Had an interesting conversation with Vin a few days ago. It seems the Patriots are doomed to lose players based on the season ticket images. We were heading to the 9/26 game w/ the Bills and I joked that I was worried about Moss.

Game 1 (9/12) tix -> Maroney... inactive for the game, traded to Denver on 9/15.
Game 2 (9/26) tix -> Faulk... on IR on 9/22
Game 3 (10/17) tix -> Moss... traded to Vikings on 10/6

I think Logan Mankins was on one of the pre-season tickets too... but I'm not positive on that.

So who's up next for the curse?
Game 4 (10/31) tix -> Welker
Game 5 (11/21) tix -> Brady
Game 6 (12/6) tix -> Bruschi... he's already gone. It is Tedy Bruschi night.
Game 7 (12/19) tix -> Wilfork
Game 8 (1/2) tix -> Mayo

Arrrghhh ... now I'm depressed.

I'm still wondering when Brees will go down...the Madden Curse.

[mosesbotbol]

Great game. Good use of the clock and execution as the game progressed.

I would've went for the field goal though. Although Hernandez dropped a couple, I like what I have seen from him this season so far.

[kugie]

Good Win
I would like to see the corners tighten up and stop getting turned around so bad. They are picking up to many flags for big Penalties.
But over all they looked good the ball was spread out the defense came up big when it had to and a good win against a good team.

4-1

[mosesbotbol]

If our defense played the ball instead of the WR, we could've had a few turn over's. Happy with the results though. Defense is progressing, Special Teams looked good. These are the two things which will be vital to securing our next Super Bowl.

[VTDragon]

We survived San Diego ...whew! Thank goodness for replacement kickers and nervous defensive lines ... (not to mention San Diego's apparent lack of knowledge of the rules of football - TWO live balls left on the ground for the pickings in one game!!!)

Looking for positives in this one ...
* The first drive of the second half - down the field for a TD. nice!
* Steven Gostkowski ... 3 for 3
* The Patriots DO know the rules and twice DID pick up live, loose balls.

Let's face it the Pats won because the Chargers continually screwed up. As for positives, I keep coming back to the number of times Belicheck exhorts his team to "just do you job" and not worry about other stuff, but to trust that the guy next to you is also doing his job. I contrast that with the Chargers where every player seemed to be trying to do that "little extra" most often resulting in failed plays, (look how many easy passes were dropped because receivers took a quick peek to see where they could run to and thus missed the catch).

It's the NFL - every week is tough and this week the Chargers were generous in their ineptitude, but a win is a win and we'll take it.