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[TheRiddick]

Messi, and many others playing in EU, use their ancestry BS to claim whatever place they feel like as their own. Hargreaves, for example, claims English citizenship, for example, since his grandparents (or whoever) came from England who knows when. Same for Messi and a ton of other Argentine and Brazilian players who claim Italian or Portuguese roots for one reason or another.

I am all for the 6/5 rule, but unless FIFA/UEFA change this STUPIDITY with fake naturalization claims, they should not in any way insist on the rule. Clean up your own house first. I know same rule is used in Olympics and that's why half of what used to be USSR sportsmen are now playing all over the world. Poland has a Brazilian born player on its national team, another Brazilian got Russian citizenship in recent years to do the same. Its stupid and sports committees really need to clean up the rules first.

If this rule passes, I am taking ALL bets that all the nations will then quickly issue citizenship to whoever needs one to ply their trade there. It is done now anyway, on a small scale, but if FIFA/UEFA want to expedite matters, then they will only open a Pandorra's Box and make the situation even worse.
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On a more serious and important note, Iniesta seems to be done for the season, Henry may not play in Rome as well. Add another suspended player and an injured one, and all of a sudden Barcelona may have to play the likes of Hleb in Rome. Doesn't look good, not that Hleb is not a good player but he is not Iniesta, and if United beat Barca, as they should even with Barca at full strength, we won't hear the end of excuses for the next 10 years.

[Lumpold]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Messi, and many others playing in EU, use their ancestry BS to claim whatever place they feel like as their own. Hargreaves, for example, claims English citizenship, for example, since his grandparents (or whoever) came from England who knows when. Same for Messi and a ton of other Argentine and Brazilian players who claim Italian or Portuguese roots for one reason or another.

I am all for the 6/5 rule, but unless FIFA/UEFA change this STUPIDITY with fake naturalization claims, they should not in any way insist on the rule. Clean up your own house first. I know same rule is used in Olympics and that's why half of what used to be USSR sportsmen are now playing all over the world. Poland has a Brazilian born player on its national team, another Brazilian got Russian citizenship in recent years to do the same. Its stupid and sports committees really need to clean up the rules first.

If this rule passes, I am taking ALL bets that all the nations will then quickly issue citizenship to whoever needs one to ply their trade there. It is done now anyway, on a small scale, but if FIFA/UEFA want to expedite matters, then they will only open a Pandorra's Box and make the situation even worse.

Unfortunately, like I said, a ruling called the Kolpak Ruling has made it impossible for UEFA to address the problem - There are a bucket load (like 40) countries covered by the ACP Treaty (Between African, Caribbean and Pacific countries and the EU) that means as we have a free trade agreement with them, to limit the number of their nationals who can play on a sports team would, apparently, be breaking this treaty.

As for the repatriation of players for national team purposes... well, this has been happening for years... most countries have a specific amount of time for naturalisation - 5 years residence gives a passport, and this is all FIFA wants from people playing on a national team - either a passport or a grandparent.

[Jason]

It's a new world order. Welcome to Earth. Not sure how I feel about that

eh. I don't really care.

[GTsetGO]

Man U EPL Champs.

[aldukes]

be champions.
Boone owes me lunch.

I do?

[Jason]

Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone

I do?

don't cross him, the kid takes his lunch very seriously

[aldukes]

Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone

I do?

In good faith you should.

did we make a bet? haha, you come down this way, I'll bring you a few cigars and take you to the best barbeque joint in the South.

[TheRiddick]

Barca is going down soon...

Well boys update from Huntsville, The season has been cut short due to the outrageous (and needed) rain fall we've had down here. 8 games is what it has been limited to. Today was the second to last game of the season against the team that had only scored 3 goals and had never taken points of anyone. Not anymore. As a team we managed to tie and nearly beat the best team in the league, managed to suck some major donkey balls against the worst. Did I mention that the ref was a joke.. oh the defender that made the goalie type diving save? right. anyways. 0-0 final score. I had to make a rough decision and a huge dent in my pride *cough* ego *cough*. I decided that I was no longer fit to captain the team and ceded it to a fellow player. I asked my team to give nominations and at the end of next week, vote on it. I am just too competitive to captain a team in the lowest Division. several of the less than talented players don't understand why I make a line change with the best and fastest players on the field in the last 10 minutes. I was asked after the match by one of the females who was pulled, if my extra penis on the field helped score the winning goal, almost did I had a diving header go over and one of the others missed a sitter), being the sarcastic and at that point pissed off replied, well it was a hell of a lot closer than you would have gotten it.. bad idea. I have since apologized, she has yet to accept(don't blame her) so I gave up my armband and said that I will play when and where I am told... I've had a bad week already, this just topped it off. Hopefully. On to the records... Currently we are 1-4-2. Defensively we have been solid all season only allowing 12 goals all season, thus far, but only scoring 8. I have scored 1 goal. I don't know how we're going to work this little contest but I'll come up with something... or not. we'll see.. thanks for letting me vent.

[aldukes]

Team Dukes lost to the worst team in the league last night. That now puts us at bottom table. That's all I have to say about that.

fantasy league is just about over. One more set of matches.... looks like JDB is going to take them al.

Lads, season has ended, as many predicted United have won their 18th title and are on the verge of being the only team to ever successfully defend the CL crown. I'd rather they not. The season has been one of fantastic goals, heartbreaking losses(and in my cases draws..) Mr Wolverines has taken top spot and if I remember the wager correctly that's 5 cigars from all the participants. If I'm incorrect let me know.

1 Jdbwolverines Jdbwolverines 1477
2 TEAMOFCARRAGHERS Dan'lboone 1429
3 Heritage St. Lou Stu 1346
4 SOS FC yayson 1257
5 Lakeland Wednesday T. Tripoli 1150
6 aldukes aldukes 1113
7 CS Scousers P NOON 1111
8 Buckeye's Bashers reggiebuckeye 1045
9 Leeds Ga. Aracos 1030
10 Trudy Tours TTOURS 835

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone

Lads, season has ended, as many predicted United have won their 18th title and are on the verge of being the only team to ever successfully defend the CL crown. I'd rather they not. The season has been one of fantastic goals, heartbreaking losses(and in my cases draws..) Mr Wolverines has taken top spot and if I remember the wager correctly that's 5 cigars from all the participants. If I'm incorrect let me know.

1 Jdbwolverines Jdbwolverines 1477
2 TEAMOFCARRAGHERS Dan'lboone 1429
3 Heritage St. Lou Stu 1346
4 SOS FC yayson 1257
5 Lakeland Wednesday T. Tripoli 1150
6 aldukes aldukes 1113
7 CS Scousers P NOON 1111
8 Buckeye's Bashers reggiebuckeye 1045
9 Leeds Ga. Aracos 1030
10 Trudy Tours TTOURS 835

If I remember correctly, too, you are correct. Waiting on a PM with address from Jdbwolverines.

Congrats on winning the league.

[Jdbwolverines]

Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone

Lads, season has ended, as many predicted United have won their 18th title and are on the verge of being the only team to ever successfully defend the CL crown. I'd rather they not. The season has been one of fantastic goals, heartbreaking losses(and in my cases draws..) Mr Wolverines has taken top spot and if I remember the wager correctly that's 5 cigars from all the participants. If I'm incorrect let me know.

1 Jdbwolverines Jdbwolverines 1477
2 TEAMOFCARRAGHERS Dan'lboone 1429
3 Heritage St. Lou Stu 1346
4 SOS FC yayson 1257
5 Lakeland Wednesday T. Tripoli 1150
6 aldukes aldukes 1113
7 CS Scousers P NOON 1111
8 Buckeye's Bashers reggiebuckeye 1045
9 Leeds Ga. Aracos 1030
10 Trudy Tours TTOURS 835

Everyone, Sorry for the delay in sending out messages, but I had been gone and then in the process of moving over the last week and half or so. If anyone didn't get a message, let me know. I tried sending them all out at once so there is a decent chance I pry screwed up something. Robert, remember to send me your address for 2nd place.

[GTsetGO]

i would take the bet, but i am a man u fan.

[TheRiddick]

United fan here as well. I predict a 2-0, United. Can't see Messi doing much with both Park and Rooney tracking him, both of them are more physical and faster. Iniesta, with that hamstring tear is just another even (worse) tear waiting to happen if he plays. Puyol and Eto'o are not showing much in the past month or so, Puyol has been caught out of position time and again. That leaves Toure and Pique, should not be an issue for the much more physical and faster United team, Barcelona could not cope with Chelsea, can't see them doing much against United, they can't even sit back since they do not have the defense to allow them that.

ha ha ha 2-0 take that man u(scumers) nice one bacalona i new u could do it