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07-15-2009, 11:38 AM | #504 | |
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Let's talk HW's. The HW division is for big guys who can't/won't cut 205. I believe the UFC goes up to 265. There are a number of fighters who are 240 and under. Only a few at 260+, one being Shane Carwin. If any of these other HW's feel they do not possess the ability to fight a bigger guy then they need to start dropping weight. Because Carwin is on his way up and others well be flooding in after TUF 10. Let's talk weight. I can personally tell you that weight does help though it isn't that advantageous over skill and ability. Each week I wrestle guys any where from 40lbs heavier to 40lbs lighter and none of them are easy to keep down. Lesnar is a top notch wrestler who is an ace in the game of takedowns and control. That is skill and not just weight holding him down. And if Mir can not deal with an extra 20lbs on a no-skilled chump then he pretty much sucks himself. Weight is nice to have over someone, but if you don't bring anything else to the table your toast. And "Some skill, some lying there.". Did you watch the fight? In the 1st round he pretty much had Mir in a crucifix with only using one arm. Lesnar's arms are long enough and strong enough to pull something like that off. And it took training and knowledge to pull off such a move. Then the subtle things like getting your legs into position to control the ground, passing the guard, and subs. Not understanging this leaving you open for legs locks or being easily swept by your opponent. I thought that taking your opponent down and beating the snot out of them was actually called ground-n-pound. Because this is what Lesnar employed. He easily took Mir down, controlled the top in side mount, gained position by showing patience, and then beat the tar out him. Lastly, at the beginning of the match Mir tried a toss, stuffed, then transitioned to a knee bar, and was stuffed again. I'm beside myself as to how anyone could watch this and say that Lesnar showed no skill. He can't take a punch either! I never watched this guy in WWE, though I wanted to see him do well in the UFC. But now, to spite everyone else and piss them off I'm an official Brock nut hugger. He's my new BBF. (I'm not sure what a BBF is but my neice says is means everything.) |
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07-15-2009, 11:48 AM | #505 |
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I respect the skill that Brock used to beat Mir, he was better, he won. Mir is a BJJ black belt, and even he knew he made some mistakes. Lesnar is a strong and skilled wrestler...and he can hit. There have been many champions in the UFC with those credentials.
What I do not respect is continuing to go after him (Mir) verbally after the fight, I don't respect the way he conducted himself in the interview with Joe. If this does not bother you, that's fine with me, but is shows incredibly poor sportsmanship, and a complete lack of respect for his opponent, the organization and the fans (or at least some of them). Speaking for myself I don't hate Brock, I don't think he is the downfall of UFC...he just happens to be a fighter I don't care for. There are enough other guys who are drawing lots of people to the UFC who I do like. If Brock does it for you, good for you. |
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i think mir's black belt in bjj is suspect. Supposedly he received it after 5 years of training? It takes 10-15 years to get a black belt from a respectable teacher. When Mir fought Nog he was avoiding the ground most of the time.
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07-16-2009, 02:23 PM | #509 |
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Mir talked a lot of trash I think he got what was well deserved. I also believe that with more maturity in the business Brock's interview demeanor will change. Though I don't think he will nor would I want to see him become some PC nancyass tip toeing around as to not offend anyone.
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If anybody hates him, they are feeding right out of his and Dana's hands. That's exactly the way they want you to feel. More people will buy the ppv's just to root against him. Every sport needs a good villain. The most "classless", if you want to label somebody that, person in UFC history is Dana White. Read his interviews and he calls out other organizations and labels them losers all the time using the F bomb liberally. It gets him noticed and that's what it is all about. And don't even talk about class and Rampage. First, the running from the cops thing and now this: http://www.break.com/cage-potato/ram...-reporter.html http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...son/index.html Traina: Has he apologized since then? Nichols: No, not at all. He was very, very pleased with himself.
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I also despise the fact that he talks down fighters that he can't land. He tries saying things like Fedor's overrated in one breath, and in the next he's desparately trying to make a deal with him? |
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07-17-2009, 06:44 AM | #513 | |
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07-17-2009, 11:29 AM | #514 |
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he was criticising cro crop too, when he heard a rumor that he signed a deal with DREAM. Then they turn around and sign a 3 fight deal with him. He is very unprofessional and talks too much garbage.
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07-17-2009, 03:43 PM | #515 |
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Tito Ortiz and Dana White mend their relationship.
“UFC is not out of the picture…. There’s a possibility — I don’t know. I had a conversation with Dana last week, me and him spoke … we were really, really good friends at a point, best friends at a point, and everything got mucked up because of the fight game…. I wanted to be a man and squash things between me and him and wish him luck in his journeys and he did the same to me. So we kind of amended and squashed things, which is great. Dana showed the kind of person he is by apologizing to me and vice versa…. I’m very thankful for Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta from the UFC and I’m glad that me and Dana (White) kind of got to brush each other off. We may not still like each other or whatever but we came to amends — which is awesome. I gotta thank Strikeforce for giving me an opportunity and I want to thank Affliction for giving me an opportunity.” I have a feeling this was done to get Tito back into the UFC and possibly be the main event opponent for Rich Franklin at 103. Right now Rich doesn't have an opponent for the main event. |
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
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UFC 100 took place July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. In the night's pay-per-view main event, UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar ground and pounded his way to a second-round TKO victory over interim title-holder Frank Mir. Lesnar wasn't issued a suspension, but Mir is sidelined until Sept. 10 for precautionary reasons. The full list of suspensions includes: Frank Mir: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons Georges St. Pierre: Must have groin injury cleared by an orthopedic doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8. Even if cleared, suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons. Thiago Alves: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons Michael Bisping: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons Yoshihiro Akiyama: Must have left orbital fractured cleared by an ophthalmologist. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8. Even if cleared, suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons Stephan Bonnar: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons Mac Danzig: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 due to a head laceration Jim Miller: Must have right shoulder and clavicle X-rayed and cleared by a doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8 Jake O'Brien: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons T.J. Grant: Suspended until Aug. 2 with no contact until July 26 for precautionary reasons C.B. Dollaway: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons Matt Grice: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons Shannon Gugerty: Must have lower back pain cleared by a doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8 UFC 100, which took place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, had a total disclosed payroll of $1,790,000. The payroll figure does not include a $400,000 that was awarded for "fight night" bonuses that were handed out after the event. Each award winner received a record $100,000. UFC 100, the UFC's heavily promoted and long-awaited milestone event, drew a soldout crowd estimated at 11,000 and assuming the preliminary figures hold up the second-largest gate in UFC history with $5.1 million in ticket sales. The full payouts for the event included: Jon Fitch: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus) def. Paulo Thiago: $8,000 Brock Lesnar: $400,000 (no win bonus) def. Frank Mir: $45,000 Georges St-Pierre: $400,000 ($200,000 win bonus) def. Thiago Alves: $60,000 Dan Henderson: $250,00 ($150,000 win bonus) def. Michael Bisping: $150,000 Yoshihiro Akiyama: $60,000 ($20,000 win bonus) def. Alan Belcher: $19,000 Mark Coleman: $100,000 ($50,000 win bonus) def. Stephan Bonnar: $25,000 Jim Miller: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus) def. Mac Danzig: $20,000 Jon Jones: $18,000 ($9000 win bonus) def. Jake O'Brien: $13,000 Dong Hyun Kim: $58,000 ($29,000 win bonus) def. T.J. Grant: $5,000 Tom Lawlor: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus) def. C.B. Dollway: $14,000 Shannon Gugerty: $10,000 ($5,000 win bonus) def. Matt Grice: $7,000 The UFC awarded $100,000 each to Akiyama and Belcher (Fight of the Night), Henderson (KO of the Night, duh!) and Lawlor (Submission of the Night). Keith Kizer, Executive Director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, on Friday released post-fight drug test results for UFC 100, which took place on July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center. Thirteen athletes were tested for performance enhancing substances and drugs of abuse: Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, Georges St. Pierre, Thiago Alves, Dan Henderson, Yoshihiro Akiyama, Jon Fitch, Jon Jones, Mark Coleman, Jim Miller, Dong Hyun Kim, Tom Lawlor, and Shannon Gugerty. All athletes tested negative. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A UFC 103 welterweight bout between veterans Martin Kampmann (15-2 MMA, 6-1 UFC) and Mike Swick (14-2 MMA, 9-1 UFC) will, in fact, determine a No. 1 contender to challenge for UFC welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre's championship belt.
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DREAM 10 is live at 3:00 a.m, set your tivo if you have HD net. It replays again on friday at 10:00 p.m and saturday at 4:00 p.m. keep an eye on welterweight galvo he is a bjj phenomenon and trains with anderson silva and he is only 23 years old.
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