Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3

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IronMan

[BigFrank]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

so many people training to fail

I think its a must, I wouldnt train to fail every set but I would recommend following a rep scheme and the last set pushing till failure. I would avoid going to failure on the first set due to the risk of injury due to poorly warned muscles and joints.

Example
Bench 200 x 10 - 200 x 10 - 200 x 10+ ( go to failure )
or
Pyramid set
200 x 10 220 x 8 240 x 6+ ( go to failure )

But of course this discussion will lead us into the never ending topic of to which degree of failure one should push to.

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no worries on me discussing it, its another one of those things I don't do.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Men's Health = Garbage

I'm starting to pick up on this. There is so much out there, that it's hard to know where to start. Any suggestions for a newbie to weightlifting for weightloss?

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

I'm starting to pick up on this. There is so much out there, that it's hard to know where to start. Any suggestions for a newbie to weightlifting for weightloss?

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[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

so many people training to fail

Failure, Perry....Failure.

My training sure ain't to fail.

Originally Posted by andysutherland

I'm starting to pick up on this. There is so much out there, that it's hard to know where to start. Any suggestions for a newbie to weightlifting for weightloss?

If you want to experience weightloss from lifting, you are going to have to train fast and light....cardio is much more efficeint, when combined with proper nutrition.

[Chris.]

How about tips for losing a gut? I don't necessarily want a 6 pack, but just slim the gut and waist down. I was a 34 pants size in high school and now I'm a snug 38 depending on what brand of jeans. I want to get back to a 34 or 36.

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Failure, Perry....Failure.

My training sure ain't to fail.



If you want to experience weightloss from lifting, you are going to have to train fast and light....cardio is much more efficeint, when combined with proper nutrition.

I know was trying a play on words.

also to update you I took no Dren today and if I had any caffeine it was from chocolate. energy was the same as if taking Dren and my mood was avg. did notice about 330 I was very tired.

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Originally Posted by Chris.

How about tips for losing a gut? I don't necessarily want a 6 pack, but just slim the gut and waist down. I was a 34 pants size in high school and now I'm a snug 38 depending on what brand of jeans. I want to get back to a 34 or 36.

my only tip here is.
spot reduction is a myth.

[BigFrank]

1st thing, would be to clean up your diet. Then combine some cardio with weight training 3-4 days per week to start. 20-30 min moderate intensity cardio before weight training. Then follow Tom's advice. Keep rep range 10 +, and keep rest time between sets under 60 secs.
As far as diet goes you would need to post a daily diet for any critique. Main points are
-eat protein with every meal
-eat less carbs, switch poor carb sources ( high glycemic ) with good carbs ( low glycemic)
- eat moderate healthy fats
- eat veggies

for most people looking to loose say 10-20 pounds, a simple cleaning up of the diet and moderate exercise would do wonders over a 4-6 month period.

biggest tip would be, find a routine that fits your lifestyle and find a diet stick and with it for 8-12 weeks.

[BigFrank]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I know was trying a play on words.

also to update you I took no Dren today and if I had any caffeine it was from chocolate. energy was the same as if taking Dren and my mood was avg. did notice about 330 I was very tired.

maybe some dren left in your system?
I always wondered how long a lot of that OTC supps stayed with ya. you didnt notice any headaches vito?

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Originally Posted by BigFrank

maybe some dren left in your system?
I always wondered how long a lot of that OTC supps stayed with ya. you didnt notice any headaches vito?

nope, the boss was a PITA but no headaches.

[icehog3]

Sounds like I will not be buying any Dren, Perry...thanks for testing it out.

Good advice on the weightloss, Frank.

[BigFrank]

ya gotta love those days, I avoid caffeine if i can I crash hard off of it.

was talking to a friend of mine, he was telling me about a supp called "hotrox" he said he got some decent results from it.

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Tom, save your $$ and try vasocharge the sample I got was pretty similar to WF.

Frank I heard of HotRox, I will pass on it at least for now.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

Tom, save your $$ and try vasocharge the sample I got was pretty similar to WF.

Frank I heard of HotRox, I will pass on it at least for now.

I have never tried any SciVation products, Perry, have you tried any others?

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I have never tried any SciVation products, Perry, have you tried any others?

I have used there Xtend product a couple of years ago mixed decent and had a decent flavor, tastes better then purple wraath and will be going back to it after my WF and PW are gone. I actually got the pins and needles from VC that you and Dokk get from WF.... effen awesome

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

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Originally Posted by icehog3

If you want to experience weightloss from lifting, you are going to have to train fast and light....cardio is much more efficeint, when combined with proper nutrition.

Originally Posted by BigFrank

1st thing, would be to clean up your diet. Then combine some cardio with weight training 3-4 days per week to start. 20-30 min moderate intensity cardio before weight training. Then follow Tom's advice. Keep rep range 10 +, and keep rest time between sets under 60 secs.
As far as diet goes you would need to post a daily diet for any critique. Main points are
-eat protein with every meal
-eat less carbs, switch poor carb sources ( high glycemic ) with good carbs ( low glycemic)
- eat moderate healthy fats
- eat veggies

for most people looking to loose say 10-20 pounds, a simple cleaning up of the diet and moderate exercise would do wonders over a 4-6 month period.

biggest tip would be, find a routine that fits your lifestyle and find a diet stick and with it for 8-12 weeks.

Thanks to all three of you. Been cleaning up my diet as of late, keeping to a low fat diet. Plan on starting some cardio up very soon.
I'm looking to lose more than 10-20lbs.
Sticking with it is the key for me, though.

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Thanks to all three of you. Been cleaning up my diet as of late, keeping to a low fat diet. Plan on starting some cardio up very soon.
I'm looking to lose more than 10-20lbs.
Sticking with it is the key for me, though.

drinking a good amount of water and a MV are good too

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I have used there Xtend product a couple of years ago mixed decent and had a decent flavor, tastes better then purple wraath and will be going back to it after my WF and PW are gone. I actually got the pins and needles from VC that you and Dokk get from WF.... effen awesome

BB.com still giving away samples?