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Old 01-24-2013, 09:23 PM   #4581
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Thanks Justin.... So which parts will be different for me in a left-handed build? would I need to find a specific type of lower?
 
Old 01-24-2013, 09:30 PM   #4582
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continuing the polymer receiver primer:

There's two basic kinds. There's the newer gen New Frontier (NF) model, which is just the receiver, and there's the old gen been around a while Calvary Arms (CA) model, which is the receiver, buttstock, and pistol grip all in one.

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Now the reality is, most parts of the lower receiver DON'T need to be very strong. The lower doesn't see a lot of high stress. The CA receiver has been torture tested, and held up to a lot of abuse. It's also non-customizable, and ugly as hell.

On the NF lower, my only point of concern is the stock joint, where you screw the stock in. That is also the point where recoil spring and buffer goes into the stock, and it does take a bit of abuse. I would hope that would not be liable to cracking way down the road. Please understand, I'm not well educated on the subject, I have NOT done my research, I am not a gunsmith, plastics expert, or machinist. All I'm saying is, you might want to read up on it first, that MIGHT be a point of concern.
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I will definitely take that into consideration... Thanks...
 
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Thanks Justin.... So which parts will be different for me in a left-handed build? would I need to find a specific type of lower?
Ahh yes, lefty considerations. Down the road, you'll have a few options to consider, depending on how lefty you are, and how picky you are. But short answer is, it will not affect your receiver choice by much. You'll probably want to install an ambidextrous safety, but that is done aftermarket. The rest of the lefty parts are all upper receiver parts. So, no worries about which lower you get.

For the upper, you have some options. sometimes it's just a simple matter of making sure there is something to deflect brass away from your face. But there is still some gas that comes out of the bolt area, and some folks have more trouble than others with getting a face full of unpleasant gas leftovers, depending on how you hold the rifle. Some people buy lefty specific upper receivers and bolt groups which flip everything around, spit the shells out the other side, etc. Costs more that way. All depends on the scratch you have available at the time.
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well... I have very little scratch... but I really want a AR that doesn't eject hot brass into my face and/or body... can you ballpark what a lefty upper runs? say average, middle of the line...?
 
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well... I have very little scratch... but I really want a AR that doesn't eject hot brass into my face and/or body... can you ballpark what a lefty upper runs? say average, middle of the line...?
Not a clue there, I'm sorry. I have ZERO experience on that front, besides skimming through a few threads on ar15.com and noting what kinds of things were available.

When you are ready to build your upper, ar15.com is the place you need to ask that question, and they will give you answers that you would otherwise never have known even existed.
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The brass is easily solved. Even some of the gas can be directed away if it's minor. The major consideration is how YOU hold the rifle and sight with it. That will best be answered by you shooting someone else's AR first, before you try to choose which specialty parts are or are not needed to fix the problem you might, or might not have.
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Thanks....
 
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Keep in mind, I know what I know from reading. I'm the guy that has spent way too much time reading way too many things. And I usually remember them. I'm an internet jockey who wants to get into 3gun (but has never shot a match yet). Out in the field, I'm not the guy you would be asking for anything from, I'm not all that experienced. So take my opinion as what it is, the "summation and distillation of what I have observed and read", not the dispensing of any great first-hand experience on my part.
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Well Francis, it is still appreciated...

I think I am going to save some pay and grab a lower with my next check if I can...

Thanks for lending me your knowledge...
 
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Well Francis, it is still appreciated...

I think I am going to save some pay and grab a lower with my next check if I can...

Thanks for lending me your knowledge...
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Ok Firearm guys...

I want my very own AR-15... but I am a broke a$$ with very little money...

with the proposed ban, I don't have much time, I read yesterday that if this ban passes the only thing it will affect is the ability to purchase lowers... is this true? meaning I need to go buy one ASAP?

What is the cheapest possible path from nothing to a completed left handed AR-15?
Don't bother. Cheapest you're gonna do it now is like $1500 most likely.

Of all the polymer lowers, the CA lower is by far mostly known as the most superior polymer lower. Down side is the stock is fixed to the lower.
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I want to take a while... buy a part here... a part there... I thought they were cheaper if you assembled them yourself...?
 
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I want to take a while... buy a part here... a part there... I thought they were cheaper if you assembled them yourself...?
They generally are...but

You have chosen the absolute worst time to start this process due to the panic buying going on a record pace.
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Rob, if your willing to pay full blown fear pricing, there was someone on this site planning on selling there extra lowers for a mint if you will pay it, who knows maybe there's a trade offset you could manage. I think it was Duane (forgop)sp?.

I do know of people recently getting lowers for around 200, I will look into it.
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$100!!!!!! &&$@%#%&#@

Is that "normal" for cali?

My local ones charge $25

FFL to FFL are $60-100. Private party transfers are around $35
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That's bullshit bro. My FFL charges $20 for any transfer
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In South Florida, I use to pay $35 but found a new one that charges me $25.
That is best I can do.
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Finally got shipping notice on my E-Landers.
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Picked up my PTR-91 today.

pictures to follow later.

Still haven't found ammo for it. Damn you sportsman's guide for screwing up 4 separate back-orders on .308 ammo. Won't make that mistake again!
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