First Firearm Thread. - Page 200

spectrrr · 01-07-2013, 10:15 AM

an AR mag with a numerical countdown indicator? GENIUS!
I'm surprised these aren't more popular here in the US...

http://store.commandarms.com/products/CDMAG.html

Remo · 01-07-2013, 10:24 AM

I have seen those, cool idea

emopunker2004 · 01-07-2013, 10:25 AM

Still waiting for my E-lander mags from Mako to ship. Should hopefully ship within the week.

Blueface · 01-07-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Still waiting for my E-lander mags from Mako to ship. Should hopefully ship within the week.

Same here.
Charge hit on my card on Friday.
Hoping that is a sign of processing.

emopunker2004 · 01-07-2013, 10:34 AM

They're behind on shipping. They have inventory but they just have way to many orders to fill. Mako said they even have family members coming in to help fill orders.

Edit: I placed my order on 12/27

Blueface · 01-07-2013, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004

They're behind on shipping. They have inventory but they just have way to many orders to fill. Mako said they even have family members coming in to help fill orders.

Edit: I placed my order on 12/27

I placed mine on 12/31 so I guess you will be my gauge as to when mine ship.

emopunker2004 · 01-07-2013, 11:32 AM

I also have a 10-pack of d&h usgi mags with magpul followers back ordered from dsg arms since 12/20

Blueface · 01-07-2013, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004

I also have a 10-pack of d&h usgi mags with magpul followers back ordered from dsg arms since 12/20

I have six from Midway (limit of 2 so ordered 2 of each).

I just got charged today for my Armalite order directly from Armalite for 2 20 and 2 25 mags for .308. That has to be good news that I was charged now when ordered around 12/20. Fingers crossed.

Blueface · 01-07-2013, 12:32 PM

Attention AR guys.
Great home defense ammo at great price.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-usa556jf.html

emopunker2004 · 01-07-2013, 12:33 PM

I'd rather have 75gr TAP

Blueface · 01-07-2013, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004

I'd rather have 75gr TAP

Agree but anyone wanting a good deal today, not a bad one to have a few boxes of, when not interested in going through walls and houses.

emopunker2004 · 01-07-2013, 12:40 PM

Heck that 40gr Fran ammo would make good steel plinking ammo

spectrrr · 01-07-2013, 01:01 PM

I have mixed feelings about frangible ammo. If it's going to break up before going through a wall, odds are that it may have spent a lot of it's energy already by the time it gets through a leather jacket and only create a superficial wound. Not good IMO

I put all my eggs in the pmag basket from DSG... hope that doesn't backfire on me!

Blueface · 01-07-2013, 01:13 PM

This should add an interesting mix to the debate of high capacity mags and Glock type guns.
Put five out of six fired rounds in assailant.
Guy made out of house and is alive and well in hospital.
Imagine if more assailants, she could have been dead, along with her children.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1234400

And to think I wonder if a loaded AR with 30 rounds, a loaded Glock with 13 and an extra mag loaded, a loaded LCP and a loaded Shield are enough.

dijit · 01-07-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by garryyjr

That would be awesome. Why do you have to live so far?

I live here in the sticks because no one looks at me odd for building bullets or carrying firearms. The city cop next door gets a little bent when I test fire a round in the back yard though. lol

emopunker2004 · 01-07-2013, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dijit

I live here in the sticks because no one looks at me odd for building bullets or carrying firearms. The city cop next door gets a little bent when I test fire a round in the back yard though. lol

Just bribe him with a few boolits

spectrrr · 01-07-2013, 03:42 PM

hmm... I must be missing something here.

I picked up a Sightmark red dot scope after reading good reviews around the web, my FIRST red dot sight.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s01_i03

Build quality seems good enough, good field of view, mostly visible red dot (bright sunlight and snow like I have here gave it a bit of trouble, but you can still make out the dot, which is all one can expect for under $100.

But here's the problem - correct me if I'm wrong, and I may well be, the theory of a red dot is that, similar to a reflex sight, the dot moves around in the window relative to your head position, so it doesn't matter what angle you look through it, the dot is on target, right?

So I set it down on the table, aimed it at the wall 10ft away, and peered through. Eureka, a dot! and I moved my head to the side, Eureka, the dot moved with my head! But wait... the point of aim also moved with my head! Significantly! At only 10ft away, moving my head to the side could adjust the point of aim by approx. 4 inches in either direction!

This effect is generally minimized with a scope which has minimal eye relief, you can't actually see through it unless you're lined up pretty close to center. But with a wide red dot tube like that one, if the point of aim shifts, then how are you supposed to line your head up precisely down the middle to get an accurate shot if it has such a wide viewing angle?

01-07-2013, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrrr

hmm... I must be missing something here.

I picked up a Sightmark red dot scope after reading good reviews around the web, my FIRST red dot sight.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s01_i03

Build quality seems good enough, good field of view, mostly visible red dot (bright sunlight and snow like I have here gave it a bit of trouble, but you can still make out the dot, which is all one can expect for under $100.

But here's the problem - correct me if I'm wrong, and I may well be, the theory of a red dot is that, similar to a reflex sight, the dot moves around in the window relative to your head position, so it doesn't matter what angle you look through it, the dot is on target, right?

So I set it down on the table, aimed it at the wall 10ft away, and peered through. Eureka, a dot! and I moved my head to the side, Eureka, the dot moved with my head! But wait... the point of aim also moved with my head! Significantly! At only 10ft away, moving my head to the side could adjust the point of aim by approx. 4 inches in either direction!

This effect is generally minimized with a scope which has minimal eye relief, you can't actually see through it unless you're lined up pretty close to center. But with a wide red dot tube like that one, if the point of aim shifts, then how are you supposed to line your head up precisely down the middle to get an accurate shot if it has such a wide viewing angle?

I've wondered this myself... Anyone?

emopunker2004 · 01-07-2013, 06:09 PM

Francis. Why don't u try it actually shooting and see what happens if u move ur head but the dot stays in target?

I'm sure someone on arfcom can answer your question though

CigarSquid · 01-07-2013, 08:13 PM

So hard to pull the trigger on the Winchester 9mm ammo. $367.94 shipped, for 1200 rounds of 115gr

01-07-2013, 10:15 AM	#3981
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. an AR mag with a numerical countdown indicator? GENIUS! I'm surprised these aren't more popular here in the US... http://store.commandarms.com/products/CDMAG.html __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

01-07-2013, 10:24 AM	#3982
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I have seen those, cool idea __________________

01-07-2013, 10:25 AM	#3983
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Still waiting for my E-lander mags from Mako to ship. Should hopefully ship within the week. __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-07-2013, 10:34 AM	#3985
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. They're behind on shipping. They have inventory but they just have way to many orders to fill. Mako said they even have family members coming in to help fill orders. Edit: I placed my order on 12/27 __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-07-2013, 11:32 AM	#3987
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I also have a 10-pack of d&h usgi mags with magpul followers back ordered from dsg arms since 12/20 __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-07-2013, 12:32 PM	#3989
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Attention AR guys. Great home defense ammo at great price. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-usa556jf.html __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

01-07-2013, 12:33 PM	#3990
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I'd rather have 75gr TAP __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-07-2013, 12:40 PM	#3992
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Heck that 40gr Fran ammo would make good steel plinking ammo __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-07-2013, 01:01 PM	#3993
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I have mixed feelings about frangible ammo. If it's going to break up before going through a wall, odds are that it may have spent a lot of it's energy already by the time it gets through a leather jacket and only create a superficial wound. Not good IMO I put all my eggs in the pmag basket from DSG... hope that doesn't backfire on me! __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

01-07-2013, 01:13 PM	#3994
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: First Firearm Thread. This should add an interesting mix to the debate of high capacity mags and Glock type guns. Put five out of six fired rounds in assailant. Guy made out of house and is alive and well in hospital. Imagine if more assailants, she could have been dead, along with her children. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1234400 And to think I wonder if a loaded AR with 30 rounds, a loaded Glock with 13 and an extra mag loaded, a loaded LCP and a loaded Shield are enough. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

01-07-2013, 03:42 PM	#3997
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. hmm... I must be missing something here. I picked up a Sightmark red dot scope after reading good reviews around the web, my FIRST red dot sight. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s01_i03 Build quality seems good enough, good field of view, mostly visible red dot (bright sunlight and snow like I have here gave it a bit of trouble, but you can still make out the dot, which is all one can expect for under $100. But here's the problem - correct me if I'm wrong, and I may well be, the theory of a red dot is that, similar to a reflex sight, the dot moves around in the window relative to your head position, so it doesn't matter what angle you look through it, the dot is on target, right? So I set it down on the table, aimed it at the wall 10ft away, and peered through. Eureka, a dot! and I moved my head to the side, Eureka, the dot moved with my head! But wait... the point of aim also moved with my head! Significantly! At only 10ft away, moving my head to the side could adjust the point of aim by approx. 4 inches in either direction! This effect is generally minimized with a scope which has minimal eye relief, you can't actually see through it unless you're lined up pretty close to center. But with a wide red dot tube like that one, if the point of aim shifts, then how are you supposed to line your head up precisely down the middle to get an accurate shot if it has such a wide viewing angle? __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

01-07-2013, 06:09 PM	#3999
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Francis. Why don't u try it actually shooting and see what happens if u move ur head but the dot stays in target? I'm sure someone on arfcom can answer your question though __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-07-2013, 08:13 PM	#4000
CigarSquid AKA Garryyjr Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Garry Location: Medford, OR - Cigar Zombie Posts: 3,213 Trading: (39)	Re: First Firearm Thread. So hard to pull the trigger on the Winchester 9mm ammo. $367.94 shipped, for 1200 rounds of 115gr __________________ gaRRy

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