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03-29-2012, 09:15 AM | #21 | |
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03-29-2012, 09:27 AM | #22 |
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If you don't like CC's, that's awesome. More for me.
My palate prefers the subtleties, the nutmeggy cinnamon from an 04 HdM DC, the tea like flavors from my box of 00 LGC MdO 3's, and oh, the sweet caramel from a 2005 PLPC. A lot of the mainstream NC's I've smoked seem to concentrate more on pepper and strength, not to mention large ring guage. I really feel it takes a very skilled torcedor to roll a smaller, longer cigar, and the blend has to be more precise, given the lesser amount of leaves in the filler. Something about a lancero/palmas/and other long skinny CC's that just strike me as a work of art. And of course, the obligatory "smoke what you like, like what you smoke."
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03-29-2012, 09:45 AM | #23 | |
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Of course, YES, I AM full of it, ask anyone. But I only smoke cubans, nonetheless. Now YES, I DO have a blog where I have smoked some NC cigars, but people gave them to me and I felt like there was no better way to thank them and to prove it got smoked than to blog about it. But I do not buy them, I do not encourage people to give them to me, and a lot of times when they force me to take them anyway, they end up in Iraq of Afghanistan. It was said somewhere above this that the modern day NC seems to be in a struggle to be the strongest or pepperiest. Neither of these are enjoyable to me. And unless you are Fuente or Padron, you seem to have trouble making an interesting cigar that is also mild to medium. So when it comes down to it, I do not smoke NCs because they do not taste good to me. |
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03-29-2012, 09:52 AM | #24 |
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It's the French wine Vs. Californian wine debate all over again, so really, smoke what you like. There are good and bad examples of both.
I for one gravitate toward the milder CCs, but I enjoy an occasional Padron or Pepin. I would point out that they're blended to completely different palletes, with NCs mostly marketed toward mouth-smokers that want big, bold & chewy flavors with a rich mouthfeel, and with CCs mostly marketed toward nose-smokers that want complex and subtle aromas that don't rip into your sinus. If there is any truth to the idea that people gravitate toward CCs in the long run (I certainly have) it's because it generally takes people a while to switch to the retroexhale and to learn how to pick up the more subtle flavors other than "burning tobacco smoke." IMO, if you've just smoked a few CCs and you didn't retroexhale, you've completely missed out on 90% of what is good about them, and should revisit them later, in that context.
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03-29-2012, 09:55 AM | #25 | |
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03-29-2012, 09:56 AM | #26 |
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My tastes are definitely NC for now... I haven't had enough CC's to make a good judgement of yet. The CC's I had were all great sticks in their own right, just not to my prefered tastes.
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03-29-2012, 10:45 AM | #28 | |
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Knowing a lot about cigars hardly precludes one's subjective taste preferences from being perfectly legitimate. After several years in the hobby, I still consider myself a noob when it comes to knowing about cigars, both in terms of the industry and the science, but I'm pretty confident in my ability to determine a good cigar from a bad one. Your personal experience with people who only smoke Cubans is vastly different than mine. Nearly every BOTL I know who exclusively smokes Cubans has smoked a ton of cigars over the years and has decided on their preference after a lot of experience, and at that point, they've been around long enough to have established good connections and reliable vendors. I'm going to assume your interactions must be with snobby, rich people who smoke to look cool, not people who smoke because they actually enjoy the experience, and I don't see how they could smoke Cubans regularly without a reliable vendor. Most BOTLS I know who exclusively smoke Cubans can only do so because they have a reliable network of vendors. |
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03-29-2012, 10:48 AM | #29 | |
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03-29-2012, 10:50 AM | #30 | |
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If that's the way things are in the circles you run in, so be it. Here at CA, you're barking up the wrong tree. Without knowing you, I am willing to bet that many of my Cuban smoking friends here have forgotten more about cigars than you'll ever know. Sorry to be insulting, but you have insulted my friends.
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03-29-2012, 10:51 AM | #31 | |
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03-29-2012, 10:52 AM | #32 | |
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03-29-2012, 10:56 AM | #33 | |
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03-29-2012, 11:08 AM | #34 | |
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03-29-2012, 11:18 AM | #35 | |
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Ofcourse I will only smoke what I like. The point I am making is in my experiences talking to many life long smokers it seems like when people start smoking CC's thier is often a point of no return to NC's. They just stick with CC's ans almost rate NC's as second hand smokes. Although it doesn't seem that way by this group's responses.
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03-29-2012, 11:20 AM | #36 | |
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03-29-2012, 11:31 AM | #37 | |
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03-29-2012, 11:34 AM | #38 |
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As i live in England i smoke mostly cubans but i also have a few dozen NCs i keep in rotation (DPG black label,padron ambassador maduro,A Fuente sun grown robusto) that i like and tbh the flavour between the two is so different they shouldn't be compared to each other.
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03-29-2012, 11:38 AM | #39 |
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It's like comparing chocolate milk to raw milk. I enjoy both, but they're really two entirely different things.
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03-29-2012, 11:43 AM | #40 | |
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