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[floydpink]

Pete,

I personally love your blends and they are one of the few NC's I buy on a regular basis.

While I don't go too crazy looking for the hard to finds, I am a huge fan of the brown label regios.

I did stumble upon some Blacks in the tube at Corona in Orlando recently and enjoyed them a bunch.

[poker]

Originally Posted by Darrell

However I don't like how upset it makes people when they search, search, search and are sad when they cannot find them.

...and is this different from finding many other sticks how? Fuentes, Padrons, and many others not to mention certain Cuban marcas were, or still are just as hard to find if not harder.




The way I look at it, if a person dosent like a brand for whatever reason, just dont buy them. Period. Pretty simple concept really & it dosent require a Masters degree to figure out.

I havent ever smoked a Tat anything to be honest and it would be probably safe to assume I wont like them, but geeze man OBVIOUSLY many folks do, so why should I knock what someone else enjoys?

To each their own. If you aint footing the bill for someone else's Tat's, you got nothing to say other than you dont like the cigars.

[Dunkel]

The money whore is at it again. Yay another overpriced self destructing wrapped cigar. I can hardly wait!

Wow, the anger... His cigars are great, he markets them well, yay capitalism.

[Emjaysmash]

Originally Posted by DougBushBC

Wow, the anger... His cigars are great, he markets them well, yay capitalism.

I'll agree with you, he markets very well. I think most of his cigars are decent, but are not worth the trouble to find them and shell out the cash. Yay, capitalism.

Either way, it just gets back to the old adage: "Smoke what you like, and like what you smoke." I have the feeling that this thread is going to turn into another Tat bashing seesion, becuase the release of the cigar is too far away to start talking about it. All the info we have is that fancy video on the site.

[Volt]

I have $50 that says the hype will work. Example - the rush, whining, moaning when peeps could not track down the Boris and Dracs. If nothing else, his marketing is as good as Harleys.

[replicant_argent]

Originally Posted by Volt

. If nothing else, his marketing is as good as Harleys.

I think he aspires to be the marketing machine that is Harvey Danielson.




A fluer de lis on clothing of any cigar smoker, or anyone that has had wistful thoughts of smoking a cigar at all times!!!! Even when you aren't smoking!
Let the world know you define yourself by your brand by constantly having a logo within dreamy gazing view, thusly redefining your sense of self imposed and elusive, yet gauzy, purchased well-being at every glance.


Limited time offer, BUY NOW, we may run out!



the fluer de lis will live in infamy!


(craftily adopted by Pete Johnson, and others, for centuries)
Didn't Affliction or one of the Ed Hardy douchebaggery companys start plastering FdL on everything in the past 4 or 5 years? Did Pete get cranky with them, and tell them that their stuff wasn't limited enough? Maybe the clothing idea isn't such a bad idea.

[poker]

Originally Posted by Volt

I have $50 that says the hype will work. Example - the rush, whining, moaning when peeps could not track down the Boris and Dracs. If nothing else, his marketing is as good as Harleys.

...but still short of the brilliance compared to Fuentes marketing.

Remember when the Opus was in its early stages? You could only find them east of the Mississippi. At the same time, they introduced the Diamond Crown line. Those they initially made only available west of the Mississippi.

What that did was create a chaotic situation in which west coasters were paying ridiculous inflated prices for Opus at local B&M's, and visa versa for the Diamond Crowns on the east coast. It increased demand for both products on a national level for smokers wanting what they could not normally acquire locally.

Brilliant.

[Volt]

Originally Posted by poker

...but still short of the brilliance compared to Fuentes marketing.

Remember when the Opus was in its early stages? You could only find them east of the Mississippi. At the same time, they introduced the Diamond Crown line. Those they initially made only available west of the Mississippi.

What that did was create a chaotic situation in which west coasters were paying ridiculous inflated prices for Opus at local B&M's, and visa versa for the Diamond Crowns on the east coast. It increased demand for both products on a national level for smokers wanting what they could not normally acquire locally.

Brilliant.

Sorry - I'm just a noob in the cigar world, maybe 5 years. I missed that one with the Opus.

Originally Posted by Volt

Sorry - I'm just a noob in the cigar world, maybe 5 years. I missed that one with the Opus.

Opus X came out in the late 90s...

[floydpink]

Originally Posted by Volt

I have $50 that says the hype will work. Example - the rush, whining, moaning when peeps could not track down the Boris and Dracs. If nothing else, his marketing is as good as Harleys.

I must really be what PT Barnum was talking about.....

I fell head over heals for that clever marketing from the boys at the Moco.

[Volt]

Originally Posted by floydpink

I must really be what PT Barnum was talking about.....

I fell head over heals for that clever marketing from the boys at the Moco.

Too funny, guess who pulled into town today and is setting up at the colosieum?

[floydpink]

Originally Posted by Volt

Too funny, guess who pulled into town today and is setting up at the colosieum?

Who? The circus? Hells Angels?

Gotta give Harley credit; for over 100 years, they've been tricking people into spending 3 tiimes as much as as a metric for a third of the bike they tell me.

Sorry, this is about Pete Johnson...

[Ender]

I love most Tatuaje cigars! Sure it's frustrating to find certain ones but it's just a cigar not a new type of technology/gadget that we absolutely MUST have. People shouldn't get all bent out of shape because a business owner knows how to market well enough to increase profits. Anyone in a position to hype up their own product to those that are fans of it for financial gain would do the same as Pete does.

[wolfandwhisky]

Originally Posted by Ender

I love most Tatuaje cigars! Sure it's frustrating to find certain ones but it's just a cigar not a new type of technology/gadget that we absolutely MUST have. People shouldn't get all bent out of shape because a business owner knows how to market well enough to increase profits. Anyone in a position to hype up their own product to those that are fans of it for financial gain would do the same as Pete does.

Just like Steve Jobs.

[weak_link]

I smoked an original jar release black this weekend that I had been holding onto. I can't for the life of me figure out what all the hype was about. Can't see getting all lathered up about his new venture.

[jitzy]

More power to him, if his marketing nonsense works so be it no one forces any of us to buy any of his smokes. Personally I like most of what he has put out but I'm done trying to jump thru hoops for a cigar since there are a hell of a lot of great smokes out there.

[neoflex]

Yes, he is a marketing machine but if the cigars didn't back up the hype in most cases the ploy would only work once maybe twice and he would quickly fade away. More often than not people really enjoy the cigars so the buildup and hype will work every time until he starts failing on putting out a product that people enjoy and backup the hype. I just wish he would make his price points a little more reasonable but at the end of the day lets face it, his job is producing and selling cigars. He does it to make a living and to make money so if what he is doing sells more product than he is good at what he is doing and making a good living because of it. Wouldn't we all like to make more money? Hell, most cigars could use a reduction in price but cigars are a luxury item and like most luxury items the prices aren't always reasonable. My only other real complaint other than price point is the delicacy of a lot of these special release cigars wrappers. For example the Verocu series. Those wrapper will pop and burst sometimes just looking at them funny but they're a great smoke and I made sure to stock up on them when I could. Until his product starts to fail to satisfy the masses I would expect to get used to Tatuaje to be around a while. Yes, trying to track down some of these smokes suck and the inflated prices from having to track down these smokes sucks too but no one is forcing you or I to go out an do it. I do find it funny how so many people hate Pete for his marketing tactics but Fuente who does the same thing every year with Opus and Anejos flies under the radar. Maybe it's because everyone is so used to it by now.

[JJG]

I agree that Tatuaje has benefited greatly from some excellent marketing, but that link still baffles me. For one, I don't understand how pictures of police in riot gear and terrible music have anything to do with a cigar company. and second, what market segment of cigar smokers is that supposed to appeal to?

Even if it is a whole new venture unrelated to cigars, like clothing or music, it doesn't seem like it is meant to appeal to the majority of his current fans, based on that website.

People that just walk into B&M's and have absolutely no idea of what a cigar forum is...enjoy whatever Tat's they happen upon and have no opinion of Pete Johnson.