Cigar of the Year 2009 is....

[JJG]

I think it's important to keep in mind that the Family Reserve is a special, limited release cigar and that's part of what you're paying for. sure, it may taste identical to a 64, but taste isn't the only factor that can determine a cigar's worth.

In the lower price ranges, it's easy to say, "this $6 cigar is twice as good as this $3 cigar" because you can taste the difference in quality. but when you are talking about a premium cigar vs. a limited release, I think it's unfair to make the same comparison. If you have the expectation that a $25 Padron should taste twice as a good as a $12 64 ani, you will surely be disappointed.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with paying more for special releases either. and it may impossible to quantify, but there is definitely an extra little bit of excitement/enjoyment you get out of smoking a special cigar.

[Brooks W]

Originally Posted by TripleF

Hmmmmmmm. Well ain't you a bigshot?

BTW, I bought 2 of 'em just before EPIC HERF II. We did a Puff Puff Pass. Wasn't impressed. Don't think anybody really was.

I disagree.

The 45th maduro is the best Padron I have smoked (better then the '64, albeit not by much) and is WELL worth the money they are charging. It is truly the total package. (and is #2 in MY cigar of the year list)...

Is it an everyday stick? Of course not. But as a special stick to pull out every once in a while, it is wonderful...

Just my humble opinion, of course...

~brooks

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Brooks W

I disagree.

The 45th maduro is the best Padron I have smoked (better then the '64, albeit not by much) and is WELL worth the money they are charging. It is truly the total package. (and is #2 in MY cigar of the year list)...

If it's not better than the '64 by much, then why such a price difference? I can get '64 Principes for around $8, but I am not paying $25 for a cigar that is only a bit of an upgrade from the '64.

[Brooks W]

Originally Posted by andysutherland

If it's not better than the '64 by much, then why such a price difference? I can get '64 Principes for around $8, but I am not paying $25 for a cigar that is only a bit of an upgrade from the '64.

Because it IS better, (again, IMHO) and you pay for that....

**Shrug**

~brooks

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Brooks W

Because it IS better, (again, IMHO) and you pay for that....

**Shrug**

~brooks

But a little bit better is not $17 worth to me. If I'm going to pay an extra $17 it better be a WHOLE LOT better. Not knocking it, just wondering.

[Brooks W]

Originally Posted by andysutherland

But a little bit better is not $17 worth to me. If I'm going to pay an extra $17 it better be a WHOLE LOT better. Not knocking it, just wondering.

No worries, that is what makes the world go round

~brooks

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by JJG

I think it's important to keep in mind that the Family Reserve is a special, limited release cigar and that's part of what you're paying for. sure, it may taste identical to a 64, but taste isn't the only factor that can determine a cigar's worth.

In the lower price ranges, it's easy to say, "this $6 cigar is twice as good as this $3 cigar" because you can taste the difference in quality. but when you are talking about a premium cigar vs. a limited release, I think it's unfair to make the same comparison. If you have the expectation that a $25 Padron should taste twice as a good as a $12 64 ani, you will surely be disappointed.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with paying more for special releases either. and it may impossible to quantify, but there is definitely an extra little bit of excitement/enjoyment you get out of smoking a special cigar.

But does that warrant making it the cigar of the year? If it's so close to the profile of another cigar?

[jmsremax]

This is on my list to try

At least it wasn't casa magna that stuff was garbage. The best cigar I tried this year was a Diamond Crown Maximus I got in a blind taste test.

[Doctorossi]

As with most stuff, as you head toward the higher end, you're probably going to hit a point of diminishing returns. The better stuff is, the less room is left for improvement and the more expense is required to find/facilitate that improvement. A $40k Ducati "R" is not going to perform 300% as well as a $13k standard Ducati; it's going to perform 118% as well.

[jmsremax]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

As with most stuff, as you head toward the higher end, you're probably going to hit a point of diminishing returns. The better stuff is, the less room is left for improvement and the more expense is required to find/facilitate that improvement. A $40k Ducati "R" is not going to perform 300% as well as a $13k standard Ducati; it's going to perform 118% as well.

My expertise in cigars isn't nearly as great as in cars/bikes but I will say the money you spend on a limited production vehicle/bike will appreciate. Your standard duc or any other vehicle will probably depreciate. The extra performance isn't why people buy these rare toys. Just my

Sorry for jumping off topic a bit.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by CasaDooley

Read the email this mornin. 25.00 per stick... A 5er of Padrons or a box of cc,s. Tough choice.

[Clampdown]

This list and how they come about choosing is one of the many reason I don't even waste my time with that magazine.

[duckmanco]

Originally Posted by CasaDooley

Read the email this mornin. 25.00 per stick... A 5er of Padrons or a box of cc,s. Tough choice.

This is getting outright ridiculous... $25.00 cigars in this economy should read like a slap in the face IMO. I know I'll catch hell for this opinion, and there is always someone willing to justify these prices for any number of stupid reasons, but to me, this ain't what the Padron brand used to represent. Of course, they still have their classic line and its somewhat fairly priced, but still.... at some point its just leaves...

My local B&M had these recently and I'm a big fan of the Padrons, so I just had to try it. But I didn't pay $25.00...I paid $39.95. (California Tobacco taxes, Cigar "Lounge" markup etc...)

I'm a relative cigar noob and I don't have the sophisticated palate that I read about in some of the cigar reviews. But I know what I like and it was a damned fine smoke! I'm not itching to run out and drop another 40 bucks on one! There are several $10 and under sticks that I want to try first. But to pay 40 bucks for a 2 hour pleasurable experience? Yeah, it was worth it.

[chenvt]

Most overrated cigar magazine top 10 list is.....


Cigar Aficionado

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by RazzBarlow

My local B&M had these recently and I'm a big fan of the Padrons, so I just had to try it. But I didn't pay $25.00...I paid $39.95. (California Tobacco taxes, Cigar "Lounge" markup etc...)

I'm a relative cigar noob and I don't have the sophisticated palate that I read about in some of the cigar reviews. But I know what I like and it was a damned fine smoke! I'm not itching to run out and drop another 40 bucks on one! There are several $10 and under sticks that I want to try first. But to pay 40 bucks for a 2 hour pleasurable experience? Yeah, it was worth it.

More power to ya, Marshall.