wine forums?

cigarmonkel · 09-16-2010, 01:37 PM

So both my roommate and I are both heavily getting into wine (hopefully the slope isn't as slippery as this one or i'm in BIGGGG trouble). Anyways anyone know of any good wine forums? I'm looking and after being a part of this forum i'm noticing i am pretty picky.

If it doesn't have a introduce yourself/welcome thread i feel as though it won't be nearly as homey as this place.

Anyone got any suggestions?

LasciviousXXX · 09-16-2010, 01:41 PM

I don't have any suggestions but I can safely say that the slope is just as slippery and just as expensive... even more so in many cases (hehe, get it?)

cigarmonkel · 09-16-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LasciviousXXX

I don't have any suggestions but I can safely say that the slope is just as slippery and just as expensive... even more so in many cases (hehe, get it?)

this isn't good.. i shouldn't be laughing but praying.

pektel · 09-16-2010, 02:03 PM

I do enjoy wine, and I enjoy cigars. But I would think you would be drinking wine way less than smoking a cigar. I have a Chateau LaFite 2006 rothchild that I'm saving.

pektel · 09-16-2010, 02:03 PM

Completely kidding. I do not have one. It would be sweet though.

T.G · 09-16-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pektel

I do enjoy wine, and I enjoy cigars. But I would think you would be drinking wine way less than smoking a cigar. I have a Chateau LaFite 2006 rothchild that I'm saving.

Finished off the cases of Boone's Farm and Cold Duck already? Or are you still working on them?

TheRiddick · 09-16-2010, 02:17 PM

Can't say there is a forum that would be "similar" to cigar one. Parker just made his forum a private one for subscribers only since he had a revolt a little while ago and there was a large discontent with his arrogance and "lack of palate", many consumers and posters on his board said enough is enough. A number of people migrated, same as how CA happened 2 years ago, and formed anther board, but its that same small crowd that is convinced they know more about how to make wine than winemakers do.

What made Parker board relevant in late '90s is participation by a large group of winemakers. About 4 years ago that all changed (both due to Parker's arrogant and very erroneous views on wine and consumers' beating up on winemakers on subjects consumers had little comprehension of) and most winemakers stopped posting. The new board lacks that winemaker participation as well and it often devolves into political flame wars (mostly one way) making it even less attractive for ITB people.

There are wine threads on this board, have you taken a look at those?

What do you mean by "getting into wine" and how far are you along? As already pointed out above, wine slope is way steeper and deeper than cigars, I can assure you of that. As opposed to cigars, some wines are only available via mailing lists or through small allocations to retail outlets, which in turn dole them out to their best customers (read: those who spend the most)

Best advice I can give you if you are still inclined to proceed on your journey is to seek out a local tasting group, or rather as many as you can find. Taste with them, see which group is more to your liking (schedule, regions/varietals covered, cost, experience, etc.) and then figure out if someone with good wine knowledge/experience is willing to take you under his/her wing and assist you in your palate development. Buy a set of good wine glasses, no need to go overboard, but a set of Burgundy (Pinot) and Bordeaux (Cab/Merlot) glasses should cover the gamut for you. Storage is not as essential as many claim, as long as you do not "cook" your wine (over 70F on consistent basis) you should be fine for short to mid term storage (up to 4-5 years). Cooler temps are better for longer term.

Not sure what else to add, if you have more questions fire away, I'll see what I can do.

pektel · 09-16-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Finished off the cases of Boone's Farm and Cold Duck already? Or are you still working on them?

STill got quite a few Bartles and James left too

T.G · 09-16-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pektel

STill got quite a few Bartles and James left too

Sweet.

Want to do a mixed trade for some Wild Irish Rose, Cisco and a few Zimas?

jmsremax · 09-16-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pektel

I do enjoy wine, and I enjoy cigars. But I would think you would be drinking wine way less than smoking a cigar. I have a Chateau LaFite 2006 rothchild that I'm saving.

I find myself drinking wine or scotch/whisky more than I smoke cigars.

pektel · 09-16-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Sweet.

Want to do a mixed trade for some Wild Irish Rose, Cisco and a few Zimas?

Throw in a couple Smirnoff Ice, and you got yourself a deal!

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Originally Posted by jmsremax

I find myself drinking wine or scotch/whisky more than I smoke cigars.

Scotch/ whisky is different to me. You don't need to kill the bottle. Wine the second day sucks. It just costs more per sitting.

To each their own though. I don't like to spend a lot of money on alcohol.

mosesbotbol · 09-16-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

So both my roommate and I are both heavily getting into wine.

What have you been drinking?

pektel · 09-16-2010, 04:14 PM

white zin

TheRiddick · 09-16-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pektel

white zin

Don't knock it, probably 40% of Beringer's business.

pektel · 09-16-2010, 04:57 PM

Probably. They sell the sh*t out of Kia's too.

mosesbotbol · 09-16-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Don't knock it, probably 40% of Beringer's business.

White Zin is what saved CA wine.

T.G · 09-16-2010, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel

Throw in a couple Smirnoff Ice, and you got yourself a deal!

I can do a 4-pack of the green Tilt, will that work?

TheRiddick · 09-16-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

White Zin is what saved CA wine.

Saved it from what?

Its no where near the sales volume of Chard, Merlot and Cab in the grand scheme of things.

mosesbotbol · 09-16-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Saved it from what?

Its no where near the sales volume of Chard, Merlot and Cab in the grand scheme of things.

It's 8% right now in sales volume and has been big when wine wasn't as big. Perhaps "saved" isn't the best word, but CA wine industry would not be anywhere like it is without White Zin.

mosesbotbol · 09-16-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pektel

white zin

cigarmonkel could be drinking La Tache & Mouton for all we know.

09-16-2010, 01:37 PM	#1
cigarmonkel User Title goes here Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: a2/ypsi. in the mitten Posts: 1,594 Trading: (32)	wine forums? So both my roommate and I are both heavily getting into wine (hopefully the slope isn't as slippery as this one or i'm in BIGGGG trouble). Anyways anyone know of any good wine forums? I'm looking and after being a part of this forum i'm noticing i am pretty picky. If it doesn't have a introduce yourself/welcome thread i feel as though it won't be nearly as homey as this place. Anyone got any suggestions?

09-16-2010, 01:41 PM	#2
LasciviousXXX Team of 11...Always Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Týr Location: New Orleans Posts: 4,579 Trading: (8)	Re: wine forums? I don't have any suggestions but I can safely say that the slope is just as slippery and just as expensive... even more so in many cases (hehe, get it?)

09-16-2010, 02:03 PM	#4
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: wine forums? I do enjoy wine, and I enjoy cigars. But I would think you would be drinking wine way less than smoking a cigar. I have a Chateau LaFite 2006 rothchild that I'm saving. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

09-16-2010, 02:03 PM	#5
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: wine forums? Completely kidding. I do not have one. It would be sweet though. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

09-16-2010, 02:17 PM	#7
TheRiddick Non-believer Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Greg Location: Las Vegas Posts: 943 Trading: (7)	Re: wine forums? Can't say there is a forum that would be "similar" to cigar one. Parker just made his forum a private one for subscribers only since he had a revolt a little while ago and there was a large discontent with his arrogance and "lack of palate", many consumers and posters on his board said enough is enough. A number of people migrated, same as how CA happened 2 years ago, and formed anther board, but its that same small crowd that is convinced they know more about how to make wine than winemakers do. What made Parker board relevant in late '90s is participation by a large group of winemakers. About 4 years ago that all changed (both due to Parker's arrogant and very erroneous views on wine and consumers' beating up on winemakers on subjects consumers had little comprehension of) and most winemakers stopped posting. The new board lacks that winemaker participation as well and it often devolves into political flame wars (mostly one way) making it even less attractive for ITB people. There are wine threads on this board, have you taken a look at those? What do you mean by "getting into wine" and how far are you along? As already pointed out above, wine slope is way steeper and deeper than cigars, I can assure you of that. As opposed to cigars, some wines are only available via mailing lists or through small allocations to retail outlets, which in turn dole them out to their best customers (read: those who spend the most) Best advice I can give you if you are still inclined to proceed on your journey is to seek out a local tasting group, or rather as many as you can find. Taste with them, see which group is more to your liking (schedule, regions/varietals covered, cost, experience, etc.) and then figure out if someone with good wine knowledge/experience is willing to take you under his/her wing and assist you in your palate development. Buy a set of good wine glasses, no need to go overboard, but a set of Burgundy (Pinot) and Bordeaux (Cab/Merlot) glasses should cover the gamut for you. Storage is not as essential as many claim, as long as you do not "cook" your wine (over 70F on consistent basis) you should be fine for short to mid term storage (up to 4-5 years). Cooler temps are better for longer term. Not sure what else to add, if you have more questions fire away, I'll see what I can do.

09-16-2010, 04:14 PM	#13
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: wine forums? white zin __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

09-16-2010, 04:57 PM	#15
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: wine forums? Probably. They sell the sh*t out of Kia's too. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

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