2010 NFL Draft Thread

[OLS]

Originally Posted by forgop

Tebow? He's already reached his ceiling. Excellent college player, but virtually every facet of his game translates to mediocre at the NFL. Dumb move IMO.

I see and hear this all the time, obviously, and NO ONE on earth hates
Tebow more than me, but this statement is chock full of holes and unknowables. I think you are
forgetting a little something called GOD.
DO you think Tebow's heavenly father will let him fail? snort! I don't see that happening.

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by OLS

I see and hear this all the time, obviously, and NO ONE on earth hates
Tebow more than me, but this statement is chock full of holes and unknowables. I think you are
forgetting a little something called GOD.
DO you think Tebow's heavenly father will let him fail? snort! I don't see that happening.

I think Tebow will be calling out to "Dad" the first time a Ray Lewis or Jared Allen puts a hit on him as he takes a minute or so to pick a receiver.
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[kelmac07]

My Bills need a QB and what do they draft??? A RB...nothing wrong at all with CJ SPiller, but Clausen would have been a perfect fit. Oh well...another cold season in Buffalo.

[OLS]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

My Bills need a QB and what do they draft??? A RB...nothing wrong at all with CJ SPiller, but Clausen would have been a perfect fit. Oh well...another cold season in Buffalo.

This was the surprise of the night for me as well. Tebow couldn't have come close to surprising me like
the Spiller pick did.

[E.J.]

I am a pretty positive guy as far as my teams go....and have nothing good to say about the Broncos draft....

I hope the powers that be prove me wrong....

[GreekGodX]

For as long as Best can stay healthy and provide the home-run threat he is, I am very happy with the Lions draft. I feel they could have gotten him in the 2nd round but who knows what was going on behind the scenes.

I'm pretty stoked about the Jets pick up of Wilson... He will make a great addition to the nickel and is a powerhouse on special teams.

I still think Cody would have made a nice pick up with Jenkins being hurt last year and all, but overall I am very impressed with the move this team has made during offseason and this draft pick is no different. On paper there isn't a team in the NFL right now with more raw talent. Hopefully that shows up on the field.

Originally Posted by coastietech

I'm pretty stoked about the Jets pick up of Wilson... He will make a great addition to the nickel and is a powerhouse on special teams.

I still think Cody would have made a nice pick up with Jenkins being hurt last year and all, but overall I am very impressed with the move this team has made during offseason and this draft pick is no different. On paper there isn't a team in the NFL right now with more raw talent. Hopefully that shows up on the field.

LOL i have to give you props on your relentless, unyielding homerism in the face of all FACTS to tbe contrary. A 9-7 team does NOT have the most raw talent in the league but ramble on by all means,

Bottom line, the Jets have become some wierd sort of
Hybrid of the criminal laden Bengals and the Redskins, buying up every free agent they can find we've all
Seen how its worked out for those two teams,
LoL

@ Bill Polian..... Jerry Hughes ??? Really?

Maybe u know something about Freeney and Mathis that i dont, but only TWO DE's can be on the field at any one time,

[OLS]

Originally Posted by Resipsa

Bottom line, the Jets have become some wierd sort of
Hybrid of the criminal laden Bengals and the Redskins, buying up every free agent they can find,
LoL

And we'll add JUST A DASH of the Yankees for flavor.

Originally Posted by Resipsa

LOL i have to give you props on your relentless, unyielding homerism in the face of all FACTS to tbe contrary. A 9-7 team does NOT have the most raw talent in the league but ramble on by all means,

Bottom line, the Jets have become some wierd sort of
Hybrid of the criminal laden Bengals and the Redskins, buying up every free agent they can find we've all
Seen how its worked out for those two teams,
LoL

HAHA... your lack of football knowledge astonishes me everytime you post on the subject...


Yes the Jets were 9-7 but we also made it to the AFC championship guess that doesn't count for anything. And in case you haven't seen our recent pick ups let me list them for you. Cromartie (considered one of the best CB's in football), Poole, Tomlison (will be much better behind the Jets o-line than the Chargers o-line), Jason Taylor (still considered the best pass rusher in football), Holmes (Super Bowl MVP who caught for over 1,000 yards last season)...

Cromartie, Holmes, and Edwards will be on best behavior this year because they are up for new contracts in '11.

There is a reason why most sports writers in the country are calling the Jets the team to beat next season.

Your blind hatred for the Jets makes you look ignorant when it comes to pointing out the facts.

Fact-the Jets now have the best CB tandem in football.
Fact-the Jets had the best pass defense in football last year and with the addition of Cromartie, Wilson, and Poole will only be better this year.
Fact-Sanchez now has targets in Tomilson, Washington, Edwards, Holmes, and Cotchery. Don't think you won't see a 5 wide set more often this year.
Fact-the Jets still have one of the best o-lines in football.
Fact-despite having a 9-7 record the Jets still made it all the way to the AFC championship and if it wasn't for a lack of corners and injured players could have won that game.

So say what you want, but to deny the fact that right now there isn't another team in the NFL with as good a roster lineup as the Jets is ignorant at best.

[King James]

Originally Posted by coastietech

HAHA... your lack of football knowledge astonishes me everytime you post on the subject...


Yes the Jets were 9-7 but we also made it to the AFC championship guess that doesn't count for anything. And in case you haven't seen our recent pick ups let me list them for you. Cromartie (considered one of the best CB's in football), Poole, Tomlison (will be much better behind the Jets o-line than the Chargers o-line), Jason Taylor (still considered the best pass rusher in football), Holmes (Super Bowl MVP who caught for over 1,000 yards last season)...

Cromartie, Holmes, and Edwards will be on best behavior this year because they are up for new contracts in '11.

There is a reason why most sports writers in the country are calling the Jets the team to beat next season.

Your blind hatred for the Jets makes you look ignorant when it comes to pointing out the facts.

Fact-the Jets now have the best CB tandem in football.
Fact-the Jets had the best pass defense in football last year and with the addition of Cromartie, Wilson, and Poole will only be better this year.
Fact-Sanchez now has targets in Tomilson, Washington, Edwards, Holmes, and Cotchery. Don't think you won't see a 5 wide set more often this year.
Fact-the Jets still have one of the best o-lines in football.
Fact-despite having a 9-7 record the Jets still made it all the way to the AFC championship and if it wasn't for a lack of corners and injured players could have won that game.

So say what you want, but to deny the fact that right now there isn't another team in the NFL with as good a roster lineup as the Jets is ignorant at best.

I don't hate the Jets, hell I liked them for a season until Favre left, and you can ask around (ask icehog in particular) about my history with bets. Giving my history, I will still make a friendly wager with you of a 5er that the Jets don't win the super bowl. I may even be tempted to bet they won't make it back to the conference championship this year

[OLS]

OH, the Super Bowl, haha, no way. Sorry.
But of course, the SAINTS DID go and win, so pigs HAVE flown.

God I love brisk debate.

[forgop]

Seriously, do you have to knock a guy for being a well known Christian? It's one thing to evaluate his physical tools and ability to make it at the next level, but directing criticism or making a joke over his faith is weak IMO. In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

[King James]

Originally Posted by forgop

Seriously, do you have to knock a guy for being a well known Christian? It's one thing to evaluate his physical tools and ability to make it at the next level, but directing criticism or making a joke over his faith is weak IMO. In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

I had more typed out, but don't think its worth posting. So will just leave it as I agree with you

[BeerAdvocate]

Originally Posted by forgop

Seriously, do you have to knock a guy for being a well known Christian? It's one thing to evaluate his physical tools and ability to make it at the next level, but directing criticism or making a joke over his faith is weak IMO. In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

Couldnt have said it better.
I guess players that cheat on their wife, beat their girlfriend, have 7 kids with 7 different women, shoot up the club, smoke weed, and drink and drive make better stories!

[OLS]

Originally Posted by forgop

In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

That's because you relate religion with high character. So it would follow that you think people with No religious beliefs to be of low character? To me it shows how far Christianity has "fallen" in that believers continue to have a "we're right, you're wrong" mentality. How high in character do you think those Irish priests were? How high in character were Jim and Tammy? And these were people at the very top of the pile. And frankly the list goes ON AND ON. Sorry for offending you, but your argument is a little biased. People have been successfully making Tebow jokes for years and years. As for the actual sentiment, I think he is going to be fairly successful in the NFL. But religion, to me, is a highly sophisticated superstition. A money extraction device hiding behind the fear of a higher power.

And my goal is not to offend the religious. This is a free country, that I served to defend.
I welcome the fact that people can serve any god they wish, theoretically, in peace.
It binds communities together in a shared expectation of behavior and beliefs. But so does common sense and a general acceptance of right and wrong, acceptable and unacceptable behavior.

Mods, feel free to entirely delete this argument by me. But I was not making fun of his
religion, I was stating that I think that Tebow truly believes that his heavenly father will
intervene on his behalf.

[OLS]

I haven't had this much crap thrown since I rejoiced when he cried on the
sidelines after Alabama showed him how real football teams accomplish their
goals.

[King James]

Originally Posted by OLS

I haven't had this much crap thrown since I rejoiced when he cried on the
sidelines after Alabama showed him how real football teams accomplish their
goals.

now that was funny, and your second post clarifies your argument much better. However, my post was not in reference to you being offensive so no hard feelings

[OLS]

Originally Posted by King James

now that was funny, and your second post clarifies your argument much better. However, my post was not in reference to you being offensive so no hard feelings

And I def don't want to drag the thread down, this is not a religious thread. But I get raised hackles when the point is made in a certain way in my direction. Everyone knows I am an A-hole, we have established that long ago. But maybe now I see that raised hackles work both ways. I hate Tebow cause of the way he managed to escape countless opponents by miracles and still be part of the No.1 team. I rejoiced when his perspective was altered by the Tide.
As a NFL'er, I am part of the minority that thinks he is going to surprise alot of people.