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Old 12-11-2009, 07:45 AM   #1
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I smoke cigars, cigarettes, and Hookah. Why should the government have a say in where we smoke or what we smoke?If I happen to get lung cancer or Mouth cancer, God Forbid, that would be by my own doing. I made that mistake but hey it was good while it lasted. Hey Government worry about getting us out of this recession and leave us to the smoking.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:52 AM   #2
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I could not agree more Bianca. It's quite sad really...
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:56 AM   #3
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You're preaching the choir.

I could give you a lot of reasons why someone would say you are incorrect, but I don't want to cite a heated thread that's not really my opinion. So why bother?
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:38 AM   #4
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You're preaching the choir.

I could give you a lot of reasons why someone would say you are incorrect, but I don't want to cite a heated thread that's not really my opinion. So why bother?
My answer would be political... won't go there!!!
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:09 PM   #5
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My answer would be political... won't go there!!!
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:12 PM   #6
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I think you will find that about 99.99999% of the people here will agree with you, and the .00001% that doesn't probably are just doing it to be funny.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:20 PM   #7
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Even if I didn't smoke, I'd be against the bans. As long it is an establishment that you have to be 18 to enter, it should be up to the owner/proprietor. If the demand for non-smoking establishments is that high, then they shouldn't have a problem with lost business.

And if I say any more, it would get political. LOL
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:30 PM   #8
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Why should the Government Have a Say? Because a certain few people in power don't believe people should smoke. How those certain few people got in power, I don't know. But im sure they don't want people doing a lot of things.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:32 PM   #9
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I smoke cigars, cigarettes, and Hookah. Why should the government have a say in where we smoke or what we smoke?If I happen to get lung cancer or Mouth cancer, God Forbid, that would be by my own doing. I made that mistake but hey it was good while it lasted. Hey Government worry about getting us out of this recession and leave us to the smoking.

Is cigars all that worries you about them?
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:45 PM   #10
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Even if I didn't smoke, I'd be against the bans. As long it is an establishment that you have to be 18 to enter, it should be up to the owner/proprietor. If the demand for non-smoking establishments is that high, then they shouldn't have a problem with lost business.

And if I say any more, it would get political. LOL
A lot of people say this isn't the case... however, where I live just had a smoking ban start and it didn't have a noticeable effect anywhere I've been because most restaurants and bars were already non smoking. The free market really will provide non smoking options and plenty of them without the government forcing the issue with bans.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:15 PM   #11
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Anti-smoking laws are nothing new. The Ottoman Empire attempted a smoking ban in the early 17th century, 400 years later the war against evil tobacco rages on.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:46 PM   #12
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Anti-smoking laws are nothing new. The Ottoman Empire attempted a smoking ban in the early 17th century, 400 years later the war against evil tobacco rages on.
No doubt because of the fire danger cigarettes posed to their footrests and couches.
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It is truly sad, but what's sadder is we do nothing except complain about our government instead of oppose and fight them, niot that we would win............myself included.


Kinda reminds me of why our forefathers left Europe.....
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I don't have a problem with bans in public buildings, but if it is a private enterprise, the owner should make the rules. And I find it hard to make it political since there are donkeys from all parties involved.
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It is truly sad, but what's sadder is we do nothing except complain about our government instead of oppose and fight them, niot that we would win............myself included.


Kinda reminds me of why our forefathers left Europe.....
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I don't have a problem with bans in public buildings, but if it is a private enterprise, the owner should make the rules. And I find it hard to make it political since there are donkeys from all parties involved.
Easy solution.
Get a space shuttle that seats 535 (435 for House and 100 for Senate).
Send them on a FREE one way ticket to the moon.
That should temporarily solve our smoking problem as we will then be able to smoke all we want, anywhere we want, while we decide who will replace them.
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If the demand for non-smoking establishments is that high, then they shouldn't have a problem with lost business.
Amen! Let's have a little more "free" in our free market economy!
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No doubt because of the fire danger cigarettes posed to their footrests and couches.
If you smoked in the early 17th c. you smoked a pipe.
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If you smoked in the early 17th c. you smoked a pipe.
Personally, I did not.
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I don't have a problem with bans in public buildings, but if it is a private enterprise, the owner should make the rules. And I find it hard to make it political since there are donkeys from all parties involved.
If you feel that Government has a duty to protect its citizens, then you can argue that the owner does not have a right to make his own rules.

I did not want to go there, but you have to consider the larger philosophical issues on government and governance.
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