2nds For everyday smokes?

[Dunkel]

I've never smoked a second and don't intend to. Most of the seconds available are nearly the same price as firsts on C bid, so why bother?

[T.G]

I've heard that the X-outs are sometimes blemished cigars, sometimes firsts - not really sure. But one thing that I have heard that seems to be fairly consistant, is that they aren't aged much after rolling, they're bundled and shipped as soon as they can get away with it, rather than letting them age the full time that the banded firsts get.

YMMV.

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Originally Posted by scoot

Anyone have any experience with the super premium seconds that CI has?

Yes, a few or more years ago. Some bundles were very HdM like, some were very Punch like. No real variation in the bundles that I could recall - if the first cigar was "punch like" then all of them were, same for HdM. Other than that, a decent cigar. They used to be a great bargain, not sure if they are anymore, or how they smoke now, as I haven't looked at them recently. I have friends who still buy them and swear by them as daily smokes though.

[TheRiddick]

I am not sure why go for "seconds" when good "firsts" such as HdM Roths (MM or Oscuro) can be had for $110 per 50 (or Punch Roths). I know HdM/Punch are not talked about here much, but they are really good smokes, IMO, and at the price are an incredible deal. What's the attraction of buying "seconds"?

[ripper]

These yummy babies taste the same as Rocky Patel The Edge maduro torpedos.
On sale for $59.95/bundle of 20 thru 1/11/10.
http://www.famous-smoke.com/rp+facto...ars/item+31175
Great billows of smoke with an emphatic punch of spicy flavor. A dependable everyday smoke!

[Savor the Stick]

Originally Posted by Mr. Ed

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...m=CS-LAB&cat=3

15 for $18, not a bad deal!

Originally Posted by TripleF

Been meanin' to post this for a couple of weeks....


The La Aurora 2nds are very, very tasty and are now in my weekly rotation......especially since they are less than $2.00 a stick :SS

Always looking for an economical smoke...these I will be trying and if I like them will put a couple of bundles into my Humi.
Also been looking at the RP x/outs at CI the Edge has always been good to me.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

I am not sure why go for "seconds" when good "firsts" such as HdM Roths (MM or Oscuro) can be had for $110 per 50 (or Punch Roths). I know HdM/Punch are not talked about here much, but they are really good smokes, IMO, and at the price are an incredible deal. What's the attraction of buying "seconds"?

Up until a few years ago, you could get CI's Super Premium Seconds for an average of about $19-21 a bundle of 25 on cbid. That low a price kind of made it worthwhile, especially when they wouldn't put up the boxes of 50 firsts.

I have no idea what they go for nowadays at auction. They list in the catalog at $40 for 25, versus $122-$127 for the box of 50 firsts from CI, so I agree, not much more to pay for a product where you know what blend you will be recieving and the cigars will probably have a bit more factory age after rolling on them too.

[Random Guy]

Originally Posted by T.G

Up until a few years ago, you could get CI's Super Premium Seconds for an average of about $19-21 a bundle of 25 on cbid. That low a price kind of made it worthwhile, especially when they wouldn't put up the boxes of 50 firsts.

I have no idea what they go for nowadays at auction. They list in the catalog at $40 for 25, versus $122-$127 for the box of 50 firsts from CI, so I agree, not much more to pay for a product where you know what blend you will be recieving and the cigars will probably have a bit more factory age after rolling on them too.

Adam,

I just won an auction @ C-Bid for these. $22 for a bundle of 25 (plus 4.95 shipping). I've heard good things about these and (for me at least) the price was very good.

I have never smoked one so, after I have a few, I will give my opinion.

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

I am not sure why go for "seconds" when good "firsts" such as HdM Roths (MM or Oscuro) can be had for $110 per 50 ...edit... What's the attraction of buying "seconds"?

Originally Posted by Random Guy

Adam,
I just won an auction @ C-Bid for these. $22 for a bundle of 25 (plus 4.95 shipping). ...edit

Right there is the attraction

I bid several times a month on many seconds on c-bid. My high bid is always less than $1 each with shipping. I loose 99% of the time but when I win, I get quality cigars that get rested for at least 6 months or longer and make excellent daily smokes. I smoke 2-3 a day while working and often set them down, get distracted or dropped. No problem when they are lass than a buck

Chas

[Smokin Gator]

Originally Posted by T.G

Up until a few years ago, you could get CI's Super Premium Seconds for an average of about $19-21 a bundle of 25 on cbid. That low a price kind of made it worthwhile, especially when they wouldn't put up the boxes of 50 firsts.

If those are the ones I am thinking of they are very tasty. They were a very dark short filler stick that were great after a month or two of rest.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Random Guy

Adam,

I just won an auction @ C-Bid for these. $22 for a bundle of 25 (plus 4.95 shipping). I've heard good things about these and (for me at least) the price was very good.

I have never smoked one so, after I have a few, I will give my opinion.

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

If those are the ones I am thinking of they are very tasty. They were a very dark short filler stick that were great after a month or two of rest.

I dunno, they're not short filler, but they are stubby little sticks (50 x 4.5") and the rest of your description sounds about right.

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...m=CS-P2A&cat=3

[Smokin Gator]

Originally Posted by T.G

I dunno, they're not short filler, but they are stubby little sticks (50 x 4.5") and the rest of your description sounds about right.

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...m=CS-P2A&cat=3

Those were the ones... They really were pretty tasty. I swear I remember them as short filler though. I also remember they were hard as a rock but had no burn issues.

[Smokin Gator]

Oh... and I have also smoke a bunch of the RP seconds/x-outs and have thoroughly enjoyed them.

[Starscream]

2nds are good!

you're talking to the connoisseur of cheap smokes.

I have a database of Consuegra conversions.

I have a cross reference for Flor de Copan's.

I remember when Oliva Segundos sold faster than firsts.

[Kreth]

Looking to order a bundle to burn a coupon Famous sent me. RP Factory Selects Original maddies look good (and free shipping). Anything else I should be looking at for ~$50?
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[Kreth]

Originally Posted by Kreth

Looking to order a bundle to burn a coupon Famous sent me. RP Factory Selects Original maddies look good (and free shipping). Anything else I should be looking at for ~$50?
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Bueller?
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[Tripp]

Originally Posted by Kreth

Bueller?
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I haven't had them yet, but plan on pulling the trigger this week on Tabacos Baes S.F. I've had the normal version and liked it, but not the S.F. yet... They're 50.99 this week.

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by Tripp

I haven't had them yet, but plan on pulling the trigger this week on Tabacos Baes S.F. I've had the normal version and liked it, but not the S.F. yet... They're 50.99 this week.

Haven't tried them yet either, but I haven't had a DPG stick that I didn't like. Thanks for the suggestion.
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[Whynot]

I got a box of the red dot Cohiba Pequenos the other day. Pretty tasty, cheap, quick smoke.

[The Poet]

A British buddy of mine called me on Christmas to wish me a happy holiday. He asked what I'd smoked to celebrate, and I told him I'd burned one of the CCs I'd received at the NYC herf in October. He told me he'd had to smoke a CC himself that day because he was completely out of his favorite - the Consuegra # 9. He's hoping he can make it to the States again sometime soon to restock, and hopes to get about 400 of them.

Take that info for what's it worth, or ignore it altogether - as that just means more for my friend.