Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Non Cigar Specialty Forums > Misc > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-14-2009, 08:32 PM   #1
BUCASmoker
Where the sun never sets
 
BUCASmoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
First Name: Vadim
Location: Newport
Posts: 267
Trading: (9)
BUCASmoker is on a distinguished road
Default Investing gurus... need some resources

So as a recent college graduate, and now making a steady salary, i've come across money for the first time in my life.

Does anyone know of any good resources that I can educate myself with to get some financial advice on investing/getting more money with the money I have now?

I bought "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Investing"... but it really is a complete idiot's guide... most of the stuff in this book (about half way through it now) is pretty self explanatory.
BUCASmoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 08:54 PM   #2
Texan in Mexico
Feeling at Home
 
Texan in Mexico's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Travis
Location: Puerto Morelos, Mexico
Posts: 958
Trading: (0)
LGC
Texan in Mexico has disabled reputation
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Im not a guru by any means however I really enjoy it, some good resources to start with:

Anything by W Buffett
Barrons.com
Nasdaq.com
Ibtimes.com

Stay with what you know and only invest what you can bear to lose...
Texan in Mexico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 08:58 PM   #3
Smokin Gator
Just plain insane!
 
Smokin Gator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 6,237
Trading: (106)
Partagas
Smokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

You can't get hurt with dirt... Buy real estate.
__________________
Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade
Smokin Gator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 09:11 PM   #4
Texan in Mexico
Feeling at Home
 
Texan in Mexico's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Travis
Location: Puerto Morelos, Mexico
Posts: 958
Trading: (0)
LGC
Texan in Mexico has disabled reputation
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Dirt on an Island is even better!

It really depends on what your goals are - are you looking to buy and hold or looking to generate cashflow?
Texan in Mexico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 09:18 PM   #5
Pilon
Feelin' the Love
 
Pilon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
First Name: Travis
Location: Tiverton, RI
Posts: 888
Trading: (49)
Bolivar
Pilon will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Start a Roth IRA!!!
Pilon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 09:19 PM   #6
Pilon
Feelin' the Love
 
Pilon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
First Name: Travis
Location: Tiverton, RI
Posts: 888
Trading: (49)
Bolivar
Pilon will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Take a peek at my occupation also by the way
Pilon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 06:02 AM   #7
BUCASmoker
Where the sun never sets
 
BUCASmoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
First Name: Vadim
Location: Newport
Posts: 267
Trading: (9)
BUCASmoker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texan in Mexico View Post
Dirt on an Island is even better!

It really depends on what your goals are - are you looking to buy and hold or looking to generate cashflow?
Cashflow. I am already saving in a thrift plan through my company, and they are matching everything. I figure most of that will be able to go to retirement, and I should have more than enough by then. Right now, I would prefer having some liquid funds that I can put towards a new car in a few years, or a house in a few more years.
BUCASmoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 06:02 AM   #8
elderboy02
Lets Go Buckeyes!
 
elderboy02's Avatar
4
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Dan
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 12,509
Trading: (133)
Bolivar
elderboy02 has much to be proud ofelderboy02 has much to be proud ofelderboy02 has much to be proud ofelderboy02 has much to be proud ofelderboy02 has much to be proud ofelderboy02 has much to be proud ofelderboy02 has much to be proud ofelderboy02 has much to be proud of
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilon View Post
Start a Roth IRA!!!
Definitely.
elderboy02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 06:04 AM   #9
BUCASmoker
Where the sun never sets
 
BUCASmoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
First Name: Vadim
Location: Newport
Posts: 267
Trading: (9)
BUCASmoker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilon View Post
Start a Roth IRA!!!
I would, but I work for the federal government, and they have a very good thrift plan. I put away 3% of my paycheck that gets matched 100%.

I am expecting a 12% raise in the next few months that I would like to put completely towards investing.

Would you still recommend a Roth IRA?
BUCASmoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 08:00 AM   #10
Steve
Dad Jokester Supreme
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Steve
Location: 17 R 435648 3354895
Posts: 7,715
Trading: (6)
HdM
Steve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud ofSteve has much to be proud of
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokin Gator View Post
You can't get hurt with dirt... Buy real estate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texan in Mexico View Post
Dirt on an Island is even better!?


__________________
...So don't sit upon the shoreline and say you're satisfied,
Choose to chance the rapids and dare to dance that tide
Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 06:35 PM   #11
BUCASmoker
Where the sun never sets
 
BUCASmoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
First Name: Vadim
Location: Newport
Posts: 267
Trading: (9)
BUCASmoker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

anyone else?
BUCASmoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 07:26 PM   #12
Smokin Gator
Just plain insane!
 
Smokin Gator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 6,237
Trading: (106)
Partagas
Smokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to beholdSmokin Gator is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

OK... I am feeling generous tonight and will share a family secret... and I am serious. We buy properties that we can rent. Our rule of thumb is to be able to charge a monthly rent of 1% of the purchase price. If you do that the property should pay for itself in 7-10 years depending on taxes, insurance, and upkeep. You may not have any cash flow for a while, but before long you have a bunch of properties with cashflow that was paid for by someone else!!!
__________________
Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade
Smokin Gator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 07:40 PM   #13
AAlmeter
F.U.B.O.
 
AAlmeter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Adam
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 288
Trading: (0)
AAlmeter is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokin Gator View Post
OK... I am feeling generous tonight and will share a family secret... and I am serious. We buy properties that we can rent. Our rule of thumb is to be able to charge a monthly rent of 1% of the purchase price. If you do that the property should pay for itself in 7-10 years depending on taxes, insurance, and upkeep. You may not have any cash flow for a while, but before long you have a bunch of properties with cashflow that was paid for by someone else!!!
What this gentleman said.

Government spending is scary. Invest in stocks and funds because its beneficial tax-wise.

Unless you've got a lot more in your piggy bank than most college students, precious metals are out because of the historically high spot prices and trading costs.

Real estate in many areas is in the dumper, and mortgage rates aren't too bad. Pinch your pennies, ditch your debt, and get into rental properties. Learn to do the upgrades and repairs yourself and save some money. Also, spend A LOT of time researching your area. In many cities, there are certain areas which provide affordable buy ins (good for you), fairly new homes (lowER maintenance), and appeals to the proper renters.

I'm not too many years your senior, and my brother and I have done well in a nicer area around a large public university which caters to junior professors with short term contracts. You have a responsible tenant with good cash flow who spends 90% of his/her time working. The rent covers the expenses (thus building equity for us) and provides a very modest income to buy us a few beers a month to celebrate.
AAlmeter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 09:35 PM   #14
Pilon
Feelin' the Love
 
Pilon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
First Name: Travis
Location: Tiverton, RI
Posts: 888
Trading: (49)
Bolivar
Pilon will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

You can still put into a roth ira in addition to a thrift up to a maximum 4000 or 4500 i have to double check. that way you never have to pay taxes again. and so you know you can use funds from a roth or traditional ira towards the purchase of a first home, up to $10,000 without being subject to early withdrawal penatlies. on the roth you ower nothing to the tax man, the traditional ira you would only have to pay taxes, no penalty.

contribute the max at work to get tthe full match, free money is good money, but doing a roth too just gives you the chance to manipulate taxes in the future, or control it rather.
Pilon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 09:38 PM   #15
Pilon
Feelin' the Love
 
Pilon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
First Name: Travis
Location: Tiverton, RI
Posts: 888
Trading: (49)
Bolivar
Pilon will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

you can also open up a Schwab or Fidelity account to save some non retirement money. you can invest in no load funds. t rowe price, vanguard, janus to name some fund families with no sales charges. if you do stocks your going to pay for trades getting in and out, its better to diversify your money with mutual funds and let the managers choose what to buy and sell on a daily basis. im sure you have better things to do with your time than research stocks day in and day out.
Pilon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 12:03 PM   #16
JJG
Have My Own Room
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
First Name: Jeff
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,260
Trading: (4)
Partagas
JJG is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilon View Post
you can also open up a Schwab or Fidelity account to save some non retirement money. you can invest in no load funds. t rowe price, vanguard, janus to name some fund families with no sales charges. if you do stocks your going to pay for trades getting in and out, its better to diversify your money with mutual funds and let the managers choose what to buy and sell on a daily basis. im sure you have better things to do with your time than research stocks day in and day out.
For someone just starting to invest, this guy has the right idea. Trading can be fun and the amount of $$ that can be made in such a short time is addicting, but it can also get expensive and it's not really worth the return for what you're required to pay in fees and taxes.
JJG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 03:00 PM   #17
kenstogie
following the whiterabbit
 
kenstogie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 1,325
Trading: (3)
Army (Active)
kenstogie will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Investing gurus... need some resources

I'm a Fed Emp too, Bump up your contributions to at least 6% they match higher than 3 points I am pretty sure. Take a look at your tax bracket and adjust contiributions as necessary to be in a lower one. Also this isn't so much investing as wise money management. Take advantage of your Med Flex Spending, it will reduce your taxable income and your not technically earning that but the end result is the same.... More $$$ in your pocket.

I am not an investing guru but people sometimes ask "How do you save money so well?"
I always tell them "write down everything you spend money on for a month". Funny but people rarely ever do but if they did they would find out in reality where there money actually goes.

The more organized you are with your money the better you'll be able to utilize it.

Also read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" what a great book.
__________________
I intend to live forever. So far, so good.
kenstogie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.