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Old 02-25-2009, 07:19 PM   #1
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I'm a little rusty, but last I checked the Ohio smoking ban only exempts some tobacco shops, not all, correct?

If the ban affects the shops you frequent, I see the fee as a way to allow smoking to continue for the convenience of the patrons. If it doesn't affect the shops, then what else do they offer besides a "private" lounge for you to smoke in? There has to be something that few dollars is being invested into.

Just curious.
Any cigar shop that was in operation before the ban is grandfathered in as long as 80% if revenue is tobacco related. Post ban any shop that is in a free standing building can be smoked in, but not one that is in a strip mall or has adjoining businesses. The laws definition of a "private club" is a place where there are no employees. So this wouldn't fly in a cigar store.
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Old 02-25-2009, 08:08 PM   #2
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Any cigar shop that was in operation before the ban is grandfathered in as long as 80% if revenue is tobacco related. Post ban any shop that is in a free standing building can be smoked in, but not one that is in a strip mall or has adjoining businesses. The laws definition of a "private club" is a place where there are no employees. So this wouldn't fly in a cigar store.
I believe your right, but I was at a newer shop the other day in a strip shopping center, (I know they were not there before the ban) and they were smoking in there

I did buy a cigar from them because it was a nice shop and the lady actually made me laugh a few times. She said fire it up and let me know what you think. I said you sure you can be smoking in here and she replied smoke away.

So I did

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Old 02-25-2009, 08:44 PM   #3
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Default Re: Mikes Cigars loses Oliva.

So let me get this straight.

Olivia thinks Mike's sells their cigars to customers too cheaply? So where is the problem? Olivia not know we're in a recession? Like a lot of people my raise this year is a big fat zero, but I'm not complaining, at least I have a job. Real estate taxes are up. Food prices are up. Beer is up. Gas is up. Health insurance cost up, benefits down ... and on and on.

And Olivia pulls somebody's account because I can get their cigars cheaper at that vendor? Most of the V prices there are MSRP minus 10%. I ask again, where is the problem? There is no competition whatsoever between my local B&M and Mike's. I buy singles and odd items at my B&M because I like to support them. If I buy a box online, I price shop and get it the cheapest place that has what I want in stock.

All Olivia is doing is making people pay more for cigars. Good job *ss****s.
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:52 AM   #4
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So let me get this straight.

Olivia thinks Mike's sells their cigars to customers too cheaply? So where is the problem? Olivia not know we're in a recession? Like a lot of people my raise this year is a big fat zero, but I'm not complaining, at least I have a job. Real estate taxes are up. Food prices are up. Beer is up. Gas is up. Health insurance cost up, benefits down ... and on and on.

And Olivia pulls somebody's account because I can get their cigars cheaper at that vendor? Most of the V prices there are MSRP minus 10%. I ask again, where is the problem? There is no competition whatsoever between my local B&M and Mike's. I buy singles and odd items at my B&M because I like to support them. If I buy a box online, I price shop and get it the cheapest place that has what I want in stock.

All Olivia is doing is making people pay more for cigars. Good job *ss****s.
I couldn't say it any better than this Sean. Definitely a place for both online and B&M cigars. +

As far as Bose speakers, Rolex, etc, I am not a fan of price fixing. Let a product stand on it's quality and the selling company's service.
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:06 PM   #5
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Default Re: Mikes Cigars loses Oliva.

Funny thing...late yesterday afternoon while sitting on my back deck, I was smoking an Oliva Master Blend, listening to music which was coming at me through my Bose outdoor speakers, when I looked at my Rolex to see how long I had been sitting there absolutley enjoying myself. Life was pretty damn good.

I only wish I had known how much of a complete jackass I was for thinking I had anything worth owning. Thank you all for straightening me out. I knew I came to this place for a reason.

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Old 02-26-2009, 01:50 PM   #6
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Funny thing...late yesterday afternoon while sitting on my back deck, I was smoking an Oliva Master Blend, listening to music which was coming at me through my Bose outdoor speakers, when I looked at my Rolex to see how long I had been sitting there absolutley enjoying myself. Life was pretty damn good.

I only wish I had known how much of a complete jackass I was for thinking I had anything worth owning. Thank you all for straightening me out. I knew I came to this place for a reason.

HAHAHAH... that is hilarious! RG bump!
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Funny thing...late yesterday afternoon while sitting on my back deck, I was smoking an Oliva Master Blend, listening to music which was coming at me through my Bose outdoor speakers, when I looked at my Rolex to see how long I had been sitting there absolutley enjoying myself. Life was pretty damn good.

I only wish I had known how much of a complete jackass I was for thinking I had anything worth owning. Thank you all for straightening me out. I knew I came to this place for a reason.

Outstanding!....made the previous 4 pages more enjoyable.....
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