is it wrong to withold a source?

[68TriShield]

I'd would not withhold from a friend/BOTL.
It's obvious that you sell some cigars,most of your comments are from buyers.All positive comments I might add
I personally have bought some things from you in the past and was always happy with the transaction,so that's not a issue at all.
I'm just curious if your trading plays into your question.

Please don't answer if you don't want to my friend

[tunes]

I recently asked a member of this forum for a source for some cc’s. Having never purchased them before, I was a little reluctant. Being new to this site and all, I also told them that I fully understood if they didn’t want to offer any assistance. As it turned out, they were more than happy to oblige. Had they not, I wouldn’t have started a rant or name calling. So I guess what I’m saying is it’s all up to you and how you feel about the person that’s asking - hindsight, after the name calling, you did the right thing! God I love this place.

you can always point them to CI...

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

I'd would not withhold from a friend/BOTL.
It's obvious that you sell some cigars,most of your comments are from buyers.All positive comments I might add
I personally have bought some things from you in the past and was always happy with the transaction,so that's not a issue at all.
I'm just curious if your trading plays into your question.

Please don't answer if you don't want to my friend

i would answer but call me slow, i don't really follow your question

it's not direct enough for my young brain to process.

I work in a field where I get alot of opportunities to work 24 hour shifts in small towns on the weekends for thousands of dollars a shift (which helps to pay off my education bills and keep my family from wanting). During the week, I work at a military clinic. I was recently asked by one of my fellow military clinicians at the military clinic where I worked on the weekends. I told him. Next thing I know, I find he is working the shifts that used to by mine to pick up; further, he has trumped up a bogus reason why he can't leave on taskings during the week and told this to our commanding officer. Now, I am getting tasked all over the place, am missing out on many weekend shifts because I am gone and he is fully benefitting financially from this.

So, once bitten, twice shy. If the other person has not earned access to that "special information" then you are likely harming yourself with no chance of reciprocation by giving out the information. If the person gets angry, then likely they would never have earned access to that information (and probably would never deserve it). If they graciously accept the decline, then they may, at a later date, earn that information.

So, not telling them, is completely legit, without a relationship of trust existing prior.

Thats just my view

John

[Snake Hips]

I never just give out Habanos sources unless it's someone I know at least pretty well from the forums. I've seen a barage of new guys asking me for them the last couple of months on various fora, and how I respond depends on how they approach me. Most of the time they just ask me for a clue, so what I do is offer to guide them away from sheisters as long as they do their own footwork to find vendors, explaining that sources are earned because they were hard to get and because they get spoiled or overfished.

Sometimes they straight-up ask me where to get them, and I tell them exactly what they should do. Contact Habanos, S.A. and get a list of their distributors, and painstakingly contact each of them about each vendor they want to know about, then order something from any of them to see if they're any good. If they have the balls to come up to me with 2 posts and basically say "Hey wheres the best internet source for real CC?" then they have the balls to find out the hard way like people used to, and that's spending months tracking the legitimacy of sources through the offical supply chain.

Originally Posted by Snake Hips

I never just give out Habanos sources unless it's someone I know at least pretty well from the forums. I've seen a barage of new guys asking me for them the last couple of months on various fora, and how I respond depends on how they approach me. Most of the time they just ask me for a clue, so what I do is offer to guide them away from sheisters as long as they do their own footwork to find vendors, explaining that sources are earned because they were hard to get and because they get spoiled or overfished.

Sometimes they straight-up ask me where to get them, and I tell them exactly what they should do. Contact Habanos, S.A. and get a list of their distributors, and painstakingly contact each of them about each vendor they want to know about, then order something from any of them to see if they're any good. If they have the balls to come up to me with 2 posts and basically say "Hey wheres the best internet source for real CC?" then they have the balls to find out the hard way like people used to, and that's spending months tracking the legitimacy of sources through the offical supply chain.

Damit and I was just gonna ask you where you got yours. just kidding

I want to add that I do not have a B&M that stocks Opus nearby and the shop 2 hours away marks them up pretty good. So someone taking a good source and marking them sky high and reselling is touchy for me. In fact, I have paid way too much for Opus before because I could not get them any other way. Whereas, I have met some great BOTL here and on other boards that have sold to me at MSRP plus shipping. So to me, it benefits the whole community more when people protect sources.

[DrDubzz]

if you don't know them, F em

It's your info and you can choose who to share it with I wold not worry about what anyone thought.
Josh

No, its not wrong.

[groogs]

Originally Posted by Stonewall

It's your info and you can choose who to share it with I wold not worry about what anyone thought.
Josh

Your source is your source, do with it what you will.

[Sandman]

I used to, now I don't. It's unbelievable how ungrateful some have been when I have helped them out. Never did give out a source that was beyond the obvious though. It was amazing at the old board, there would be banner ads flashing all day, and people would still be wondering where to source cigars.

[Rabidsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Sandman

It was amazing at the old board, there would be banner ads flashing all day, and people would still be wondering where to source cigars.

I think the biggest problem with that is most people, including me, have no idea if they were legit. I figure some day I'll either take a chance with one of them, or someone will clue me in on where to go. Doesn't really make a difference to me, I'm enjoying what I have now.

[68TriShield]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

i would answer but call me slow, i don't really follow your question

it's not direct enough for my young brain to process.

Okay...you *sell* quite a few cigars,why I don't know or care.
What I wonder is,has giving up a source ever soured one of your sales,and is that why you're asking our opinion?

Disclaimer:barbourjay's sales are top notch.

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

Okay...you *sell* quite a few cigars,why I don't know or care.
What I wonder is,has giving up a source ever soured one of your sales,and is that why you're asking our opinion?

Disclaimer:barbourjay's sales are top notch.

never has soured one of my sales. i try my best to fill WTB's and do box splits (like the tatuaje monster one i did which is half my feedback).

i was asking peoples opinion to see what the proper way to address this situation is.

[68TriShield]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

never has soured one of my sales. i try my best to fill WTB's and do box splits (like the tatuaje monster one i did which is half my feedback).

i was asking peoples opinion to see what the proper way to address this situation in.

Bottom line is,you know who your friends are.Not to be callous but they are all that matters

[Genetic Defect]

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

[68TriShield]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

I don't think so Perry,not at all.

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

that's a pretty big accusation. i don't pad pricing and i don't sell cigars as supplemental income. if i did there would be tons upon tons of for sale threads by me. ask some of the people who have herfed and met with me and seen my collection. assumptions are just awesome.

but whatever, i did bring up the subject but it was you who decide to run your mouth trying to stir up something (and i add this isn't the fist time i've seen it on this board).

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

Bottom line is,you know who your friends are.Not to be callous but they are all that matters

word, i don't think there is a person i've met on here who i wouldn't call trustworthy. those people tend not to stick around.