Tatuaje Saints & Sinners club

[twenty5]

I think a lot of people are reading too far into this.

Think of it like buying a 15ct box of cigars at an event, so swag is included. This "club" is open to everyone and there is no limit to the amount of people that can join. Renew next year if you want the new 15ct sampler.

Some people just like to suck the fun out of everything..

Originally Posted by twenty5

I think a lot of people are reading too far into this.

Think of it like buying a 15ct box of cigars at an event, so swag is included. This "club" is open to everyone and there is no limit to the amount of people that can join. Renew next year if you want the new 15ct sampler.

Some people just like to suck the fun out of everything..

I like to try different cigars everyday if possible. I find most, not all, LE sticks I smoke to be different and most of the time better than most of the regular production sticks I've smoked. Part of the problem for me with buying any cigar online is the cost of shipping. It makes no sense to buy just one cigar for $10 and get s/h charges for $5 on top of that. I see this as an opportunity to get a nice 15 count sampler of different sticks that will likely all be very good.

As far as "all the animosity" goes, Scott, your post was not full of it. IMO, you posted very worthwhile comments which are your own thoughts and feelings. I do tire of seeing the ol' "ad homenim." Your post was not full of that. If I'm ever remotely in your neck of the woods I'd love to take you up on your offer. This "club" thing has nothing to do with that whatsoever, though.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by mariogolbee

I like to try different cigars everyday if possible. I find most, not all, LE sticks I smoke to be different and most of the time better than most of the regular production sticks I've smoked. Part of the problem for me with buying any cigar online is the cost of shipping. It makes no sense to buy just one cigar for $10 and get s/h charges for $5 on top of that. I see this as an opportunity to get a nice 15 count sampler of different sticks that will likely all be very good.

As far as "all the animosity" goes, Scott, your post was not full of it. IMO, you posted very worthwhile comments which are your own thoughts and feelings. I do tire of seeing the ol' "ad homenim." Your post was not full of that. If I'm ever remotely in your neck of the woods I'd love to take you up on your offer. This "club" thing has nothing to do with that whatsoever, though.

You're certainly welcome to come see us, Mario.
You're right about that club being none of that. All politics aside, it's not a bad deal if you like Tat's to get 15 smokes for that money. Period. Especially an opportunity to try some blends that didn't make the cut. If you're a real Tat fan, that's good stuff right there.

I just cringe every time I see the division in the brotherhood that everything Pete Johnson brings. There's gotta be a reason for that. My reasoning could be completely off the beam, but after watching it go on for so long, it's the best I could offer.
Personally, I'd just like to see it all go away. It sure doesn't need to be like this, and even Gurkha and Rocky Patel don't raise the negative emotion that Pete does.
Weird, right?

[T.G]

Originally Posted by shilala

I just cringe every time I see the division in the brotherhood that everything Pete Johnson brings. There's gotta be a reason for that. My reasoning could be completely off the beam, but after watching it go on for so long, it's the best I could offer.
Personally, I'd just like to see it all go away. It sure doesn't need to be like this, and even Gurkha and Rocky Patel don't raise the negative emotion that Pete does.
Weird, right?

Some people just aren't happy without someone to hate.

[Brooks W]

Originally Posted by shilala

I just cringe every time I see the division in the brotherhood that everything Pete Johnson brings. There's gotta be a reason for that. My reasoning could be completely off the beam, but after watching it go on for so long, it's the best I could offer.
Personally, I'd just like to see it all go away. It sure doesn't need to be like this, and even Gurkha and Rocky Patel don't raise the negative emotion that Pete does.
Weird, right?

I cringe every time someone decides to pass judgement on Pete, when all he is doing is what people ASK him to do, release (mostly great) cigars. Someone on another board was *****ing because Pete said he was going to give some of the money to charity...REALLY? I understand if you don't want to support Pete if he is giving money to a Charity you don't like, but do you really have to deride him for that?

I was there when the idea of the "Fan Club" was discussed, some of the people I was with actually kinda talked Pete into it (or at least gave him some reasons why he should do it)...It made perfect sense at the time, a membership with exclusive stuff that anyone who WANTS to can join, and those that don't can choose NOT to join.

Would people prefer he not release ANY new stuff? Or only on a specific schedule? One new cigar every 6 months? Or is that still "too many"?

PETE is not the one causing the division, it is the "BOTL" who ***** and moan about EVERY NEW RELEASE, as if it has not been said Ad nauseam.

Pete is in the business to A. Release cigars and B. Make money releasing cigars. If you have a problem with either, don't BUY the cigars (or related products he is selling).

Is it really that hard to understand?

Originally Posted by Brooks W

I cringe every time someone decides to pass judgement on Pete, when all he is doing is what people ASK him to do, release (mostly great) cigars. Someone on another board was *****ing because Pete said he was going to give some of the money to charity...REALLY? I understand if you don't want to support Pete if he is giving money to a Charity you don't like, but do you really have to deride him for that?

I was there when the idea of the "Fan Club" was discussed, some of the people I was with actually kinda talked Pete into it (or at least gave him some reasons why he should do it)...It made perfect sense at the time, a membership with exclusive stuff that anyone who WANTS to can join, and those that don't can choose NOT to join.

Would people prefer he not release ANY new stuff? Or only on a specific schedule? One new cigar every 6 months? Or is that still "too many"?

PETE is not the one causing the division, it is the "BOTL" who ***** and moan about EVERY NEW RELEASE, as if it has not been said Ad nauseam.

Pete is in the business to A. Release cigars and B. Make money releasing cigars. If you have a problem with either, don't BUY the cigars (or related products he is selling).

Is it really that hard to understand?

Well said Brooks! Get off Pete's Nuts and live your own life! Cigars are for the most part a "Man thing"... Some of these guys need to realize that and start acting as such.... or they need to give up cigars start smoking cigarettes and/or blunts and join a F'n pole dancing class! I believe "P. Diddy" said it best! NO *****ASSNESS!!! We really need to adopt this theme and take it to heart in the cigar community!

Originally Posted by Brooks W

I cringe every time someone decides to pass judgement on Pete, when all he is doing is what people ASK him to do, release (mostly great) cigars. Someone on another board was *****ing because Pete said he was going to give some of the money to charity...REALLY? I understand if you don't want to support Pete if he is giving money to a Charity you don't like, but do you really have to deride him for that?

I was there when the idea of the "Fan Club" was discussed, some of the people I was with actually kinda talked Pete into it (or at least gave him some reasons why he should do it)...It made perfect sense at the time, a membership with exclusive stuff that anyone who WANTS to can join, and those that don't can choose NOT to join.

Would people prefer he not release ANY new stuff? Or only on a specific schedule? One new cigar every 6 months? Or is that still "too many"?

PETE is not the one causing the division, it is the "BOTL" who ***** and moan about EVERY NEW RELEASE, as if it has not been said Ad nauseam.

Pete is in the business to A. Release cigars and B. Make money releasing cigars. If you have a problem with either, don't BUY the cigars (or related products he is selling).

Is it really that hard to understand?

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