Hail To The Redskins!!

[Squid]

Originally Posted by Made in Dade

.... Get some more former Miami Hurricanes on the roster.

Nah....we got enough problems with injuries, we certainly don't need to be bailing guys out of jail too!

Originally Posted by Squid

Nah....we got enough problems with injuries, we certainly don't need to be bailing guys out of jail too!

The Redskins best running back and wide receiver are from Miami. And what legal troubles have then been involved in?

[Squid]

Originally Posted by silentjon

The Redskins best running back and wide receiver are from Miami. And what legal troubles have then been involved in?

silentjon....I don't believe I singled out moss or portis as being involved in legal problems. The attempt at HUMOR was in response to Made in Dade's comments about getting more Hurricanes on the Skins roster. In fact, I put the smiley with the cigar beside the comment. Again....HUMOR.

However, i probably don't need to provide an education on the number of present and former Miami Hurricanes that have been involved in an extensive number of off AND on field incidents. But, we could start this year with the 31 Miami and FIU players that were suspended in what has been referred to by many as the "Thug Brawl." We could go back over the years where Sports Illustrated called for the shut down, 12 years ago, for the football program to be shut down for being out of control. Some of Miami's finest have blessed the NFL---including Michael Irvin and his many off the field escapades or Ray Lewis and his murder charges, or the recruit Willie Williams whose Arrest Record was longer than his High School Transcript. The program have never been known for its virtues of cleanliness....but, I will say, Shannon has run a much cleaner program and seems to be righting the ship from its many years of bad behavior.

Again....the attempt at humor was apparently lost in the translation. Sorry you didn't get it.

Originally Posted by Squid

silentjon....I don't believe I singled out moss or portis as being involved in legal problems. The attempt at HUMOR was in response to Made in Dade's comments about getting more Hurricanes on the Skins roster. In fact, I put the smiley with the cigar beside the comment. Again....HUMOR.

However, i probably don't need to provide an education on the number of present and former Miami Hurricanes that have been involved in an extensive number of off AND on field incidents. But, we could start this year with the 31 Miami and FIU players that were suspended in what has been referred to by many as the "Thug Brawl." We could go back over the years where Sports Illustrated called for the shut down, 12 years ago, for the football program to be shut down for being out of control. Some of Miami's finest have blessed the NFL---including Michael Irvin and his many off the field escapades or Ray Lewis and his murder charges, or the recruit Willie Williams whose Arrest Record was longer than his High School Transcript. The program have never been known for its virtues of cleanliness....but, I will say, Shannon has run a much cleaner program and seems to be righting the ship from its many years of bad behavior.

Again....the attempt at humor was apparently lost in the translation. Sorry you didn't get it.

I get it was a joke, but I still take objection towards the term thug.

1) The FIU-Miami brawl was indeed a black-eye for Miami. However, they have been other brawls in college football - Clemson and South Carolina for one.
2) Willie Williams was the number one ranked defensive recruit in 2004 and recruited by most major colleges (including Florida, Florida State and Auburn). While enrolled at Miami, he had zero legal issues. They same can't be said once he transferred.
3) Indeed, both Lewis and Irvin had their share of issues in the NFL. But maybe we should also call West Virginia Thug U for Adam Jones and Chris Henry.
4) The amounts of legal incidents at Miami have been minimal in recent time. The same can't be true for a lot of college football programs. Florida State and Penn State come to mind.

[Squid]

Originally Posted by silentjon

I get it was a joke, but I still take objection towards the term thug.

I have a very good friend from high school whose sister had a "reputation" for being the go-to girl if you wanted to lose your virginity or to get a little action. My friend has felt tremendous embarassment over the years for the things that his sister did. In fact, we all kind of feel sorry for her because she has been stuck for more than 30 years with that reputation and at each reunion, inevitably someone brings her up.

A reputation, once earned, is hard to overcome. Shannon has done a decent job of keeping players under wraps the last couple years. There are a lot of great players that came out of the U that were role models for others...but, they get lost in the reputation that the U earned. Of course, anytime you have a FIU-Miami brawl, the natural tendency is to bring back past behaviors and history of schools and individuals. To be upset about the term "Thug Brawl" is an issue that you'll have to take up with the media. They coined the phrase....the rest of us just use the term. In fact, if I recall correctly, wasn't the Sportscaster that broadcast the FIU-Miami also fired for his comments supporting what was occurring on the field by the Miami players??? If I remember correctly....he was also a Miami grad.

Here in NC, Chuck Amato began building the reputation at NC State of bringing in the "thug" players with attitudes and questionable behaviors. He came out of the FSU program that often times lacked character, as well. He wanted the players to have a get in your face attitude and not back down or be intimidated by the opposing players. With all that, came the associated problems, as well...on and off the field. To have Tom O'Brien as the new coach at NC State come in and rebuild the program with discipline and hard work is a joy to watch.

But again....as much as you may want the reputation to go away, Miami earned its reputation over the years and its going to take awhile to remove the stigma associated.

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