Why so hateful lately?

[Blueface]

Is it just me that has noticed this?

While the team of eleven does an awesome job on this site, the majority of which are personal friends of mine, it seems there are folks hell bent on making it tough.

This is a community and I personally view it as family. I have made so many friends throughout the country that I have herfed with thanks to this site. Family should take care of family. Totally sucks when life imitates art and you come here for a retreat and find yourself with similar family bickering we all have in our lives at home.

I recognize this is a forum that often times calls for views and opinions. However, very many times, it frankly doesn't and ones opinion is as welcome as a hole in the head. The trick is knowing when that arises. Am I good at it? I don't think any of us are perfect but we should all keep it in the back of our minds. The trick is to also refrain from offensive adjectives such as "morons", "idiots", "gay", etc.

I can't help but notice so many instances as of late where one person discusses something they like and immediately, without welcome, someone has to make a comment of how crappy it is, how stupid it is, how you are a moron, how you must be a blind follower of a cult and on and on. Tastes vary. Budgets vary. What makes me release serotonin differs from you. If I like a BMW and you like a Yugo, why should I knock your Yugo as a piece of crap, even if it is as has been proven? What you consider fun, someone else might consider boring. I think in those instances, one should take measure to what one says and if you don't like it, don't look at it, or simply state you don't like it. Why name calling? Why bickering? I have enough of that at home and it sucks to come here and find it also.

So.......my message is simple. As I grow older (now 51) than many of the folks on this board and simultaneously wiser, I ask we all make the lives of all on this board a tad easier by thinking twice about comments/opinions that may be offensive. It is not about PC at all. It is about being courteous to someone that will likely make a great person to share a cigar with but instead, you pissed off with poorly selected and poorly thought out verbiage.

[CigarNut]

Very well said! Some people take everything much too personally and lash out, turning what should be a normal differences of opinion into personal attacks...

[bazookajoe]

Well said Carlos. The old adage about not speaking if you don't have anything nice or helpful to say is even more appropriate for forum posting where intent or "kidding" is not obvious.

[BigAsh]

....Nicely put Carlos

[Jbailey]

I agree with you Carlos 100%!

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[Hippi3Slay3r]

Total Anonymity = Internet toughguys. I see this everywere I go weather its here, Video game forums, or comments on youtube. Its hard not to notice the general negativity on the internet, And I wonder if some people never heard the phrase "If you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all" thats how I live my life, It was one of the first things I can remember being taught by my parents. /shrug just my


~Kyle

[Starscream]

I completely agree, Carlos. I have been wondering for a bit why this board has slowed down over the last couple of months, some of the longtime members (those who were "established" back in the jungle) have left this board, and just an overall negative vibe being sent by some. I think that is one of the biggest contributing factors to this. I love this place, the TOE, and all of the members here who I interact with and hope to continue to contribute to and interact with those here. I hope that all who read the op will take it to heart and help make an already great community an even better place.

The TOE runs the asylum, but it is also the members who make this place what it is. Some who bring negative vibes do not contribute to keeping this place what it is.

Thanks for the post, Carlos.

[newcigarz]

[wolfandwhisky]

post count fluffing here, but maybe we should change the "I'm with Stupid" to be "I'm with The Above"

[Mr B]

Well said Carlos.

[Ogre]

[kelmac07]

Carlos...I concur brother!!

[shilala]

Thank You, Carlos. I don't really hate you, either. Even if you get that phone before me.
I showed Lisa the video. Another big mistake. You're really not helping me out a bit today, up till now.

[icehog3]

I haven't seen that much hate at all, except in any thread having to do with Apple.

[kenstogie]

Well here's some love Carlos! (in a strictly platonic non-Fruedian sort of way)

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I haven't seen that much hate at all, except in any thread having to do with Apple.

maybe Carlos you are a bit sensitive or you are reading too much into other's comments?

[Don Fernando]

this topic sucks

in all seriousness, Carlos has a point. There has been some negativity here lately, but I think it's just a phase. Cigar Asylum is hitting puberty. Things will turn positive again soon, there are too many great botl's and sotl's to let the negativity win.

[Whynot]

I find that without the benefit of facial expression, tone of voice, and body language, many things said in jest or sarcasm on the web can be completely misconstrued. The old adage of think twice before you speak should be applied even more strenuously when typing. I am sarcastic as hell in person, but I am generally pretty careful of what I type on forums for the above reasons.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by Mugen910

maybe Carlos you are a bit sensitive or you are reading too much into other's comments?

Not sensitive at all when blatant words as I posted are stated, when things are called moron, gay, stupid and so on.
It depends on what thread you open I guess.
Don't want to specifically call any of them out as not the intent of this thread.