Weekly discussion for "Sons of Anarchy"

[SmokeyJoe]

Originally Posted by Darrell

I wonder man. I know things will be ugly, but Jax won't kill Clay and vice versa. It's too early in the show to kill off 2 of the most influential main characters. I think Jax will kill Tig and confront Clay and Clay will act as if Tig acted without his permission, since the only 2 who knew about it were Tig and Clay and with Tig in the ground, whose to question it?

All speculation of course.

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I wonder man. I know things will be ugly, but Jax won't kill Clay and vice versa. It's too early in the show to kill off 2 of the most influential main characters. I think Jax will kill Tig and confront Clay and Clay will act as if Tig acted without his permission, since the only 2 who knew about it were Tig and Clay and with Tig in the ground, whose to question it?
now we both are right

Great minds think alike....

So... which is the REAL Darrell? You know, you can get a time-out for one person trying to sign-up using two accounts.

Here is how I think it will play out.

Tigg and Jax will throw down and HARD.

Clay knows he is in a bad spot. He finds out where the witness is for Bobby.

To keep him self clear of all this, He sends Tigg to do the deed.

Tigg gets it done, but gets smoke checked by the feds as he does this.(Clay stays in the clear).

Opie turns inward and becomes a very dark and violent character. Becomes the Sgt. of Arms for SAMCRO(Ironically, taking over Tigg's place)

Either the end of this season, or beginning of next, Clay makes moves to step down and sit at the table to advise Jax.

From there(If it plays out that way) I can't figure any further.

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by Ron1YY

Here is how I think it will play out.

Tigg and Jax will throw down and HARD.

Clay knows he is in a bad spot. He finds out where the witness is for Bobby.

To keep him self clear of all this, He sends Tigg to do the deed.

Tigg gets it done, but gets smoke checked by the feds as he does this.(Clay stays in the clear).

Opie turns inward and becomes a very dark and violent character. Becomes the Sgt. of Arms for SAMCRO(Ironically, taking over Tigg's place)

Either the end of this season, or beginning of next, Clay makes moves to step down and sit at the table to advise Jax.

From there(If it plays out that way) I can't figure any further.

Darrell is right

[Ken]

This is going to get nasty and I'm not talking about the dirty with Jax's wife. I'm kind of disappointed with his decision with the ladies, but I believe that is a clear indication of the direction he's going.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Darrell

I really hope Jax kills Tig, though I doubt he will.

I really hope not...I think a character like Tig adds to the show, and I would miss him if he was gone.

Maybe that gives you all some insight into my sick, twisted mind.


Glad I finally got around to seeing the new episode last night, it was killing me to not open this thread!

[jkorp]

Killer episode. It was just so well done, from the opening scenes of the SAMCRO world waking, to the end of the show as the sunset.

I don't think Tig will be killed off yet, his character is to valuable to the story. I think Jax and him will hit hard, but in the end both alive. I don't know about Clay stepping down yet. He is driven, and hooked on selling guns. I can't see him handing over the throne yet.

I think Jax very well could kill Clay, especially if he finds out that he was behind Donna's death, and possibly his fathers. You can see the tension between them already, constantly butting heads.

One things for sure, Clay sure screwed the pooch in many ways now. Got double crossed by the Niners and I'm sure the peace with the Mayans is fragile if not gone. The rifts he just created with the Donna incident I think will solidify Jax's intent on taking SAMCRO in another direction.

Going to be good next week and next seasons.

[Ken]

Originally Posted by jkorp

I think Jax very well could kill Clay, especially if he finds out that he was behind Donna's death, and possibly his fathers.

Umm, I don't think Clay killed Jax's father. Maybe Clay killed the guy that Jax's knew as his father, but not his father. Following me here! In one of the early episodes his mother told Clay, "Jax might be following in the wrong fathers footsteps", when Jax pulled out the journals and started questioning the gun running. That quote might not be verbatim, but darn close.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Ken

Umm, I don't think Clay killed Jax's father. Maybe Clay killed the guy that Jax's knew as his father, but not his father. Following me here! In one of the early episodes his mother told Clay, "Jax might be following in the wrong fathers footsteps", when Jax pulled out the journals and started questioning the gun running. That quote might not be verbatim, but darn close.

I thought she was implying that Clay was also a "father" to Jax.

[Mark C]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I thought she was implying that Clay was also a "father" to Jax.

That's how I took it, though it wouldn't be hard to make a case for the other interpretation.

I agree that episode was particularly well done, kinda reminded me of the last Soprano's episode. Definitely going to be interesting to see where this goes. It's almost like they're getting ready to split the club in half.

But on the other hand, I still don't think the whole 'Opie is a rat' thing was too plausible. If he was the rat, he had more than enough info to lockup the club, and the feds would have had no reason to throw him back onto the streets. Just the fact that he WAS on the streets should have been enough to keep him alive, maybe at most put him in a SAMCRO lockdown of some sort.

[Ken]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I thought she was implying that Clay was also a "father" to Jax.

I betting they had an affair and Clay is the biological father. If Clay actually killed him then that would make a pretty good reason for doing so.

[jkorp]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I thought she was implying that Clay was also a "father" to Jax.

I doubt that Clay is his father. Why keep the secret? I took it as Clay has been the real and only father figure in his life, for most of his life.

Originally Posted by Ken

I betting they had an affair and Clay is the biological father. If Clay actually killed him then that would make a pretty good reason for doing so.

I think Clay killed Jax's father because he wanted to take the club a different direction, just as Jax does. I'm guessing that what ever went on created a big rift between him and Clay, that did not end well. Clay is a straight up Outlaw, 1% through and through. He doens't even want to consider earning legit.

Originally Posted by jkorp

I doubt that Clay is his father. Why keep the secret? I took it as Clay has been the real and only father figure in his life, for most of his life.

That is what I was thinking.

Ok, Here we go!!!!! I'm hoping for better than last night

Originally Posted by Ron1YY

Ok, Here we go!!!!! I'm hoping for better than last night

x2, brother.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Ron1YY

Ok, Here we go!!!!! I'm hoping for better than last night

Well, what did you think?

Originally Posted by icehog3

Well, what did you think?

It was a great ending to the season and left all kinds of posiblities for season 2.

With the seeming knowledge that Clay is going to step down soon, And Jax making a statement to Tigg physically, Season 2 is going to Rock!!!!

Don't want to say too much incase people didn't catch it last night

[SmokeyJoe]

Enjoyed last night's episode... and it left me wanting more - as it should. Really not sure how the fight resolved anything... just a message, perhaps? And knowing that THEY know that HE knows ( ) really makes me wonder how they will deal with it.

Will there be a change in leadership? And if so, how can they do it without it becoming bloody? With Bobby "Elvis" knowing the truth - where will his loyalties lie? What will Gemma do?

Piney showed some old-school cojones and I thought that scene at the end with Jax was a nice set-up for next season. This show is my favorite!

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

Really not sure how the fight resolved anything... just a message, perhaps?

Piney showed some old-school cojones and I thought that scene at the end with Jax was a nice set-up for next season. This show is my favorite!

I think the message Jax got across was that HE will run the club soon, and that Tigg WILL respect him and his decisions. He also made a point that things CAN be done without killing. As the sign and his father said "Brains before Bullets"

Piney Showed that Old School Bikers and Vets are NOT to be messed with and WILL do what they see as necessary.

Great Show and Great episode!!!! the B!tch part is the long @zz wait until next season

[Genetic Defect]

the world clay knows is tumbling down.

Originally Posted by Big Vito

the world clay knows is tumbling down.

I'd say the world Gemma knows is crumbling. 3 things to point that out.

1. Tara gave Jax his CUT at the funeral and he made a point to show everyone there who he wants to be with Including Gemma.

2. The scene with Gemma and Clay when she told him to be the man they expect, and as he walked away, Gemma said something like "Just like John".

3. The look on her face at the end when they saw Jax with the envelope standing in front of the grave.