Never had Ashton VSG or ESG - Page 2

webjunkie · 01-25-2010, 01:07 AM

The VSGs are one of my favorites, but a lot of the time I forego buying them to try out other cigars.

gnukfu · 01-25-2010, 04:48 AM

VSG -good; ESG - I don't like

Dunkel · 01-25-2010, 05:42 AM

The 2 VSG's I smoked were unremarkable. Never had an ESG. The Heritage was a much better smoke IMO.

01-25-2010, 06:23 AM

Now its been a while, but this is what I remember and my notes confirm this: In my opinion the Ashton VSG, Diamond Crown Maximus and San Cristobel are pretty much the same smoking experience except for some small differences. Given that I'd say buy the San Cristobel first given it is (or was at some point) the cheaper of the three.

01-25-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottishSmoker

About 6 years ago, the VSG was nothing but pure power and spice...very full-bodied. Honestly, today, I would invest my money elsewhere...the VSG still has a good flavor, great construction, and beautiful burn...but nowhere near the strength and spice of years past....I miss the really good VSGs...

agree completely. you can look at the bands and see the much older ones. they do not have the words cabinet on them for the newer releases. if you can find the older ones that say cabinet you will have a different experience.

rizzle · 01-25-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mariogolbee

First time I tried a VSG earlier in my cigar hobby I hated it. I recently revisited one and absolutely loved it. I enjoyed the ESG very very much. If you like Opus then you'll likely enjoy the ESG. The ESG was much like the Opus except it seemed richer. This makes sense considering it uses a sun grown version of the Opus wrapper.

I'm with you on the ESG's, but I like the VSG's as well. The ESG is way more interesting though.

Chemyst · 01-25-2010, 10:20 AM

The VSGs are very good smokes. A bit pricey, but perfect
for special occasions. Actually all of the Ashtons are very
good cigars, IMHO.

I haven't smoked any ESGs, because I can't justify the price.
But, last fall I picked up a couple in trades, and am waiting
for the right occasion to smoke one.

Technically the San Cristobal is an Ashton, but it is a different
beast. The quality and reliability is there, but the taste is
different, due to the source of the tobacco. I go for San
Cristobal more often than VSGs or regular Ashtons now, but
that won't always be the case. The SCs just fit my taste,
lately.

Chemyst

01-25-2010, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle

I'm with you on the ESG's, but I like the VSG's as well. The ESG is way more interesting though.

i'd agree there as well but i really think it depends on the size of the ESG. i was not impressed by them until i smoked the torpedo. it was smooth but one dimensional but i still liked it. wont buy them unless they are on sale.

yourchoice · 01-25-2010, 02:34 PM

I used to love the VSG...one of my favorites a few years ago when I first started out. I had one more recently and enjoyed it but not as much as I remember...I was just coming down with a cold though. The flavor that I remember picking up from them was "black cherry".

issues · 01-25-2010, 02:38 PM

I do love a nice VSG Illusion!

As for the ESG, I haven't tried it due to the price...

I may have to break down and try one on a special occasion.

NCRadioMan · 01-25-2010, 02:43 PM

After a few years of rest I like the VSG's. I also agree with ScottishSmoker. Not a fan of the ESG at all.

e-man67 · 01-25-2010, 02:47 PM

VSG's are fantastic...there is not one cigar out there that tastes like it...very unique.

Commander Quan · 01-25-2010, 03:06 PM

If they do not smoke VSG's in heaven, then I shall not go.

-ME

Bubba - NJ · 01-25-2010, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerseystepup

These are made by fuente correct? As im slowly loosing taste for my NC's and gaining more repect for Cuban tobacco... my fuentes i still love... my opus, my anejo, and most of all my sungrowns.. Im thinking some VSG's may be just what i need.

The VSG are very consistent and good . Peppery . I've only had 1 ESG and on the advice of a friend I waited a year to smoke it after I bought it , the original release version , was an excellent cigar , flawless construction and burn the whole way through . Flavor was excellent but the price is what has kept me away from the ESG . Worth a try if you've not had one .

tedrodgerscpa · 01-25-2010, 05:44 PM

Having smoked both, I can't think of a single reason to ever purchase another ESG, given the price point.

If someone handed me either stick for FREE, I'd still probably take the VSG. While neither stick has the complexity of a Nic puro, I like the blend of the VSG a bit more.

http://www.ashtoncigar.com/Ashton-VSG.jsp
http://www.ashtoncigar.com/Ashton-ESG.jsp

I also echo Addiction's opinion... The San Cristobal is probably their best stick, and usually a few bucks cheaper than the VSG. DEFINITELY dollars cheaper than the ESG

01-25-2010, 01:07 AM	#21
webjunkie Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Daniel Location: Nagano Prefecture, Japan Posts: 213 Trading: (1)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG The VSGs are one of my favorites, but a lot of the time I forego buying them to try out other cigars.

01-25-2010, 04:48 AM	#22
gnukfu I like cigars Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: George Location: Massholia Posts: 1,466 Trading: (27)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG VSG -good; ESG - I don't like __________________ Curious George

01-25-2010, 05:42 AM	#23
Dunkel Maduro & Oscuro Whore-O Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Doug Location: West by God Virginia Posts: 2,232 Trading: (75)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG The 2 VSG's I smoked were unremarkable. Never had an ESG. The Heritage was a much better smoke IMO. __________________ Blue Label,Any Filipe Gregorio,Acid,Don Elias,El Mejor Espresso,Tierra del Sol

01-25-2010, 06:23 AM	#24
Addiction Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG Now its been a while, but this is what I remember and my notes confirm this: In my opinion the Ashton VSG, Diamond Crown Maximus and San Cristobel are pretty much the same smoking experience except for some small differences. Given that I'd say buy the San Cristobel first given it is (or was at some point) the cheaper of the three.

01-25-2010, 10:20 AM	#27
Chemyst Doin Time on Planet Earth Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Ken Location: So. Jersey Posts: 392 Trading: (7)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG The VSGs are very good smokes. A bit pricey, but perfect for special occasions. Actually all of the Ashtons are very good cigars, IMHO. I haven't smoked any ESGs, because I can't justify the price. But, last fall I picked up a couple in trades, and am waiting for the right occasion to smoke one. Technically the San Cristobal is an Ashton, but it is a different beast. The quality and reliability is there, but the taste is different, due to the source of the tobacco. I go for San Cristobal more often than VSGs or regular Ashtons now, but that won't always be the case. The SCs just fit my taste, lately. Chemyst

01-25-2010, 02:34 PM	#29
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,095 Trading: (36)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG I used to love the VSG...one of my favorites a few years ago when I first started out. I had one more recently and enjoyed it but not as much as I remember...I was just coming down with a cold though. The flavor that I remember picking up from them was "black cherry".

01-25-2010, 02:38 PM	#30
issues Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Tony Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,626 Trading: (8)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG I do love a nice VSG Illusion! As for the ESG, I haven't tried it due to the price... I may have to break down and try one on a special occasion.

01-25-2010, 02:43 PM	#31
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG After a few years of rest I like the VSG's. I also agree with ScottishSmoker. Not a fan of the ESG at all. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

01-25-2010, 02:47 PM	#32
e-man67 Big Drunkin Monkey!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Eric Posts: 1,480 Trading: (29)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG VSG's are fantastic...there is not one cigar out there that tastes like it...very unique.

01-25-2010, 03:06 PM	#33
Commander Quan Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Derrick Location: Canton, OH Posts: 966 Trading: (4)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG If they do not smoke VSG's in heaven, then I shall not go. -ME

01-25-2010, 05:44 PM	#35
tedrodgerscpa Palmetto State Herf Crew! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ted Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,712 Trading: (87)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG Having smoked both, I can't think of a single reason to ever purchase another ESG, given the price point. If someone handed me either stick for FREE, I'd still probably take the VSG. While neither stick has the complexity of a Nic puro, I like the blend of the VSG a bit more. http://www.ashtoncigar.com/Ashton-VSG.jsp http://www.ashtoncigar.com/Ashton-ESG.jsp I also echo Addiction's opinion... The San Cristobal is probably their best stick, and usually a few bucks cheaper than the VSG. DEFINITELY dollars cheaper than the ESG __________________ Everyday I'm shufflin...