you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V

01-23-2010, 07:23 PM

OK the size was belicoso, I angle cut it with a double blade guillotine cutter, pre draw was firm but I figured it would open up after it was lit. Lit it and first impression was meh. I figured "well it will pick up here in a minute" after the first third I was pretty upset with my $7 dog rocket. draw was really firm, my cheeks would actually go concave when trying to take a decent draw. overall the flavor picked up in the middle of the stick but not much, I really was not impressed by this stick at all. Do you think I just got a bad stick? or are these just over rated?

okieRob · 01-23-2010, 07:32 PM

I guess it all depends on your tastes. I have had a few of these and my experience is was the complete oposite. I wouldn't give up on it completely yet - give it a second try sometime.

Adriftpanda · 01-23-2010, 07:53 PM

Well, was this the first time you had this stick? Give it another try, maybe it was a dud or maybe you just find this stick to be what you said. Almost every smoke, I try and give a 2nd or 3rd chance. And hey if it doesn't work out than I know the stick isn't for me.

01-23-2010, 07:55 PM

I will probably give it another try WAY down the road.

LooseCard · 01-23-2010, 07:58 PM

I agree.
You can never judge a line by just one stick.

Have at least one more before you decide.

Patrick B · 01-23-2010, 08:09 PM

I think this is a phenomenal cigar every time I smoke it. Maybe yours was a little wet? Also, you could have cut that bad boy a bit more if it was tight. Like others have said, give it a try in a little while. Hope it turns out better!

okieRob · 01-23-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Adriftpanda

I try and give a 2nd or 3rd chance.

Agreed - I try to buy at least 2 of every stick I purchase.

chippewastud79 · 01-23-2010, 08:17 PM

The tight draw probably led to your negative experience. Next time dry box it or use a draw poker.

icehog3 · 01-23-2010, 08:21 PM

How long ago did you purchase it? If it was in the last couple days, possibly it was improperly humidifed at the B&M? If not, what conditions have you stored in under?

RevSmoke · 01-23-2010, 08:21 PM

tight draw = not much smoke = not much flavor = bad experience

I'd say that you need to try another one. Why was it tight? Who know, it may have simply been too moist.

I have had many Oliva Vs, and have never had one with draw issues.

01-23-2010, 08:34 PM

I just bought it yesterday at my local B&M. the end seemed very tightly packed. I guess I should have tried to re-cut it further up. I guess I will give one a go sometime again when I have the chance. thanks for the help guys.

jerseystepup · 01-23-2010, 08:55 PM

if i can just throw in my 2 cents here... i love the V line... i started out in the cigar world on the lighter olivas, and this is the only one i really still have in my collection.. However with the V belicoso and mini beli, ive also had draw issues... 9 out of 10 times the cigar can be opened up with a draw poker and the cigar will totally change. next time give this a try

icehog3 · 01-23-2010, 08:58 PM

Might want to buy your next one and let it stabilize in your humidor for a couple weeks...maybe conditions aren't right where you bought the cigar.

01-23-2010, 09:23 PM

Haven't smoked these in a while. Though the flavors are good, the draw on about half of the ones I've had were definitely pretty tight. I took a little more off the heads with my cutter, though, and they smoked just fine.

issues · 01-23-2010, 09:43 PM

The first Serie V I had was a Churchill Extra and it didn't impress me...

However, the second one I had was a Double Robusto and I found it to be very good.

Good pull, excellent flavor and a perfect burn.

I would agree that you should give the line another shot.

01-23-2010, 09:52 PM

Never really heard much bad about the V line, really harsh review to call it a dog rocket however.

Patrick B · 01-23-2010, 09:54 PM

This is an absolute staple for me. Gets killer ratings, too! I love the beli, double r, and even more so this year's maduro. Yum!

Goldie · 01-23-2010, 10:20 PM

My buddy and I were just at an Oliva event last night and he had an Oliva V Beli. and had the exact same complaint. The first (and only so far) Oliva V Beli I ever smoked had a tight draw as well. I hate to say it, but I have not enjoyed any of the Oliva V's I have had the chance to smoke. And it hasn't been flavor, it's been concerns with the construction.

Take my unprofessional newb feedback for what it's worth, $0.02.

issues · 01-23-2010, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick B

This is an absolute staple for me. Gets killer ratings, too! I love the beli, double r, and even more so this year's maduro. Yum!

I would agree; this year's Maduro V is something special!

Good luck locating one though...

Most of the B&M's I frequent have run out of them.

Patrick B · 01-23-2010, 10:26 PM

I stocked up while I could. I think The Party Source in northern Kentucky still has some! They do great phone orders.

01-23-2010, 07:23 PM	#1
dubs chops Guest Posts: n/a	you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V OK the size was belicoso, I angle cut it with a double blade guillotine cutter, pre draw was firm but I figured it would open up after it was lit. Lit it and first impression was meh. I figured "well it will pick up here in a minute" after the first third I was pretty upset with my $7 dog rocket. draw was really firm, my cheeks would actually go concave when trying to take a decent draw. overall the flavor picked up in the middle of the stick but not much, I really was not impressed by this stick at all. Do you think I just got a bad stick? or are these just over rated?

01-23-2010, 07:32 PM	#2
okieRob Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: I'm not telling Location: The Land in the Middle Posts: 153 Trading: (6)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V I guess it all depends on your tastes. I have had a few of these and my experience is was the complete oposite. I wouldn't give up on it completely yet - give it a second try sometime.

01-23-2010, 07:53 PM	#3
Adriftpanda Peter's Daddy Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Huy Location: No one wants me Posts: 10,313 Trading: (74)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V Well, was this the first time you had this stick? Give it another try, maybe it was a dud or maybe you just find this stick to be what you said. Almost every smoke, I try and give a 2nd or 3rd chance. And hey if it doesn't work out than I know the stick isn't for me. __________________ Who eats plantains when they can eat placenta.

01-23-2010, 07:55 PM	#4
dubs chops Guest Posts: n/a	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V I will probably give it another try WAY down the road.

01-23-2010, 07:58 PM	#5
LooseCard not wrapped too tight.... Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Dan Location: Woodsy side of MA Posts: 555 Trading: (3)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V I agree. You can never judge a line by just one stick. Have at least one more before you decide. __________________ Out of the 10Base-T, through the router,past the firewall, down the T-1, over the leased line, off the bridge, ....Nothing but .NET

01-23-2010, 08:09 PM	#6
Patrick B Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincinnati OH Posts: 713 Trading: (6)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V I think this is a phenomenal cigar every time I smoke it. Maybe yours was a little wet? Also, you could have cut that bad boy a bit more if it was tight. Like others have said, give it a try in a little while. Hope it turns out better!

01-23-2010, 08:17 PM	#8
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V The tight draw probably led to your negative experience. Next time dry box it or use a draw poker. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

01-23-2010, 08:21 PM	#9
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,440 Trading: (60)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V How long ago did you purchase it? If it was in the last couple days, possibly it was improperly humidifed at the B&M? If not, what conditions have you stored in under? __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

01-23-2010, 08:21 PM	#10
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,861 Trading: (51)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V tight draw = not much smoke = not much flavor = bad experience I'd say that you need to try another one. Why was it tight? Who know, it may have simply been too moist. I have had many Oliva Vs, and have never had one with draw issues. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

01-23-2010, 08:34 PM	#11
dubs chops Guest Posts: n/a	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V I just bought it yesterday at my local B&M. the end seemed very tightly packed. I guess I should have tried to re-cut it further up. I guess I will give one a go sometime again when I have the chance. thanks for the help guys.

01-23-2010, 08:55 PM	#12
jerseystepup L-I-V-I-N Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Posts: 774 Trading: (9)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V if i can just throw in my 2 cents here... i love the V line... i started out in the cigar world on the lighter olivas, and this is the only one i really still have in my collection.. However with the V belicoso and mini beli, ive also had draw issues... 9 out of 10 times the cigar can be opened up with a draw poker and the cigar will totally change. next time give this a try

01-23-2010, 08:58 PM	#13
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,440 Trading: (60)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V Might want to buy your next one and let it stabilize in your humidor for a couple weeks...maybe conditions aren't right where you bought the cigar. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

01-23-2010, 09:23 PM	#14
Noomis Guest Posts: n/a	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V Haven't smoked these in a while. Though the flavors are good, the draw on about half of the ones I've had were definitely pretty tight. I took a little more off the heads with my cutter, though, and they smoked just fine.

01-23-2010, 09:43 PM	#15
issues Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Tony Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,626 Trading: (8)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V The first Serie V I had was a Churchill Extra and it didn't impress me... However, the second one I had was a Double Robusto and I found it to be *very* good. Good pull, excellent flavor and a perfect burn. I would agree that you should give the line another shot.

01-23-2010, 09:52 PM	#16
Ty Atkinson Guest Posts: n/a	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V Never really heard much bad about the V line, really harsh review to call it a dog rocket however.

01-23-2010, 09:54 PM	#17
Patrick B Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincinnati OH Posts: 713 Trading: (6)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V This is an absolute staple for me. Gets killer ratings, too! I love the beli, double r, and even more so this year's maduro. Yum!

01-23-2010, 10:20 PM	#18
Goldie Bring the pain! Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Drew Location: Ohio Posts: 808 Trading: (13)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V My buddy and I were just at an Oliva event last night and he had an Oliva V Beli. and had the exact same complaint. The first (and only so far) Oliva V Beli I ever smoked had a tight draw as well. I hate to say it, but I have not enjoyed any of the Oliva V's I have had the chance to smoke. And it hasn't been flavor, it's been concerns with the construction. Take my unprofessional newb feedback for what it's worth, $0.02. __________________ Come in here dear boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go far - Pink Floyd I like my draw, like I like my women, a little loose - Goldie Last edited by Goldie; 01-23-2010 at 10:25 PM. Reason: grammar

01-23-2010, 10:26 PM	#20
Patrick B Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincinnati OH Posts: 713 Trading: (6)	Re: you think I got a bad stick? oliva serie V I stocked up while I could. I think The Party Source in northern Kentucky still has some! They do great phone orders.