Storage Tins

Cigargal · 10-07-2009, 12:49 PM

I just ordered a couple of storage tins from Sweet Maria's. What is the proper use of these babies. Do you put the coffee in before or after it is cooled-if after, how long after. If I use these tins how long before I grind and brew for the best cup?

Mister Moo · 10-07-2009, 01:27 PM

Store the beans when they're cooled, object being to reduce the contact with air, light, odors and moisture. Those cans will do that.

Best to grind right before brewing.

floydpink · 10-07-2009, 01:35 PM

I use them and my system is to keep my green beans in paper bags or burlap bags until roasted.

Once roasted, they move to the SM storage tins with a note on it saying the bean, roast date, and roast notes.

I was told to make sure you don't expose the bottom to water as it will mess up something or other in the valve that releases the gas.

If you do mess them up, they are cheap enough to replace.

They are nice and plain, and I let my 4 year old daughter color mine with rainbows, frogs, and angry pit bulls.

Cigargal · 10-07-2009, 06:10 PM

Hey...lets have a Post your Tins Photo contest!!

So let them cool then tin...I always grind seconds before brewing. 24 hrs in the tin good enough to wait befor brewing?

Mister Moo · 10-07-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cigargal

Hey...lets have a Post your Tins Photo contest!!

So let them cool then tin...I always grind seconds before brewing. 24 hrs in the tin good enough to wait befor brewing?

24-seconds in a pinch; 24-48 hours, ja, shure.

Fumes · 10-07-2009, 10:00 PM

I figure the beans are cool enough once the cooling cycle is finished. I just dump em straight from the drum into the SM tin can. (Barbaric, I know, but there are only so many hours in the day.) The valve has a paper bit that is susceptible to H2O damage, so you're supposed to wipe it out with a dry paper towel and not wash it.

floydpink · 10-08-2009, 07:57 AM

Mine get cooled over a fan in a collander after roasting, then put in the tin.

I normally have a day or two worth of beans in the grinder hopper so I am not going to the tin for a couple days.

I'm roasting twice a week now and actually find that I am liking the stuff better after 3 days of rest and even notice more oils showing up on the darker roasts after a few days.

I guess this this can still be considered fresh.

Cigargal · 10-08-2009, 01:00 PM

I wish I could get ahead on the roasting. It seems like I am always needing more coffee!

Mister Moo · 10-08-2009, 03:37 PM

Coffee usually develops for days after roasting, IMO, not hours. Sometimes it isn't "there" for 5-6 days post-roast and, thereafter, can hang good for two weeks with reasonable storage.

If you're falling behind then you only need bigger roasters. Y'all need to be looking into a 4-burner gas grill conversion or stacked SCCO or something like that. Those FRs and IRs are good for learning. After that you need to, uh, scale up! Crikey, Fl'ink - you'll need at least a 4-burner grill/roaster to keep that Brasilia fed.

floydpink · 10-08-2009, 10:02 PM

I'm actually going through a mind bending research on roasters and am leaning towards the Hottop programmable at this point.

I don't see the Freshroast lasting more than a couple more months max. I am definitely pushing it and don't wait the suggested 30 minutes rest between roasts and cheat quite a bit past the 8 minutes max.

I am even finding myself taking off the chaff collector to let a little heat escape so I can get a longer roast.

Roasting is something I don't see leaving my life and really want to get it right on the upgrade and am wondering if I can keep it somewhat simple and dependable on the scale up while avoiding buyer's remorse.

The Brasilia isn't overly hungry as far as i can see, and since I got the squirting and whistling under control, it's just packing a few portafilters a day to keep me running, which actually reduces my trips to Sam's Club for Monster energy drink by the case.

The main challenge has been keeping the thing shiny and not burning myself on all the metal that I didn't previously have. I am a bit scarred at this point from some groggy mornings bumping into hot brewgroups and probably shouldn't have taken off the "caution" sticker so soon.

On the positive side, I haven't fallen victim to any scalding citrus acid in the eyes as a result of the excellent pressure relief on the E61's valve for backflushing.

germantown rob · 10-09-2009, 06:27 AM

Pete, are you talking about the Hottop "P"? I highly suggest the "B' over the "P". I fell into the same allure the P gave but in reality the B is more controllable.

I would look into building a BBQ roaster because of the climate you live in, amount that can be roasted, and heat control. If I can figure out a way to add a bean mass probe to the drum I will be building one for myself for those big roasting times.

Shinning metel and burning yourself on it, ah, good old ABS plastic sure is cool to touch and a dirty sponge cleans messes off.

Sweet Maria tins rule, I like the way they look on the countertop.

Mister Moo · 10-09-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by germantown rob

...I would look into building a BBQ roaster because...

I roasted three pounds by BBQ last Sunday and find it quick, easy and somewhat controllable. I LOVE the BBQ roaster but... but... but...

It isn't particularly good for espresso blends, though. It isn't bad but, for espresso roasting I am leaning to favor the SCCO. I feel a new thread coming on.

floydpink · 10-09-2009, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo

I roasted three pounds by BBQ last Sunday and find it quick, easy and somewhat controllable. I LOVE the BBQ roaster but... but... but...

It isn't particularly good for espresso blends, though. It isn't bad but, for espresso roasting I am leaning to favor the SCCO. I feel a new thread coming on.

Anxiously waiting to read it as espresso blends seem to be half of what I roast at this point.

Savor the Stick · 10-09-2009, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo

I roasted three pounds by BBQ last Sunday and find it quick, easy and somewhat controllable. I LOVE the BBQ roaster but... but... but...

It isn't particularly good for espresso blends, though. It isn't bad but, for espresso roasting I am leaning to favor the SCCO. I feel a new thread coming on.

Yeah Moo...get the Thread up. I got a TO being delivered today, and a Salton Popper coming next week. So I'm still gathering parts. So an all inclusive thread for SC/CO-UFO/TO would be awesome.

germantown rob · 10-09-2009, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo

I roasted three pounds by BBQ last Sunday and find it quick, easy and somewhat controllable. I LOVE the BBQ roaster but... but... but...

I have been thinking through adding an exhaust fan and adding to the interior to keep heat closer to the beans. I want more control out of a BBQ setup then I have seen but I won't be getting rid of the Hottop for the full ability to control the roast for the $40+ green beans and the greenies for espresso.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo

It isn't particularly good for espresso blends, though. It isn't bad but, for espresso roasting I am leaning to favor the SCCO. I feel a new thread coming on.

Will this be strictly for you wrencher's or will you include those of us that just throw money at the solutions?

raisin · 10-09-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink

I'm actually going through a mind bending research on roasters and am leaning towards the Hottop programmable at this point.

Roasting is something I don't see leaving my life and really want to get it right on the upgrade and am wondering if I can keep it somewhat simple and dependable on the scale up while avoiding buyer's remorse.

"No worries", get the HTB!

10-07-2009, 12:49 PM	#1
Cigargal Waiting for SoCal XI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,472 Trading: (25)	Storage Tins I just ordered a couple of storage tins from Sweet Maria's. What is the proper use of these babies. Do you put the coffee in before or after it is cooled-if after, how long after. If I use these tins how long before I grind and brew for the best cup?

10-07-2009, 01:27 PM	#2
Mister Moo I barely grok the obvious Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Lizard Lick, NC Posts: 1,417 Trading: (3)	Re: Storage Tins Store the beans when they're cooled, object being to reduce the contact with air, light, odors and moisture. Those cans will do that. Best to grind right before brewing. __________________ "I hope you had the time of your life."

10-07-2009, 01:35 PM	#3
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: Storage Tins I use them and my system is to keep my green beans in paper bags or burlap bags until roasted. Once roasted, they move to the SM storage tins with a note on it saying the bean, roast date, and roast notes. I was told to make sure you don't expose the bottom to water as it will mess up something or other in the valve that releases the gas. If you do mess them up, they are cheap enough to replace. They are nice and plain, and I let my 4 year old daughter color mine with rainbows, frogs, and angry pit bulls. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"

10-07-2009, 06:10 PM	#4
Cigargal Waiting for SoCal XI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,472 Trading: (25)	Re: Storage Tins Hey...lets have a Post your Tins Photo contest!! So let them cool then tin...I always grind seconds before brewing. 24 hrs in the tin good enough to wait befor brewing?

10-07-2009, 10:00 PM	#6
Fumes Not So Memorious Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Posts: 205 Trading: (0)	Re: Storage Tins I figure the beans are cool enough once the cooling cycle is finished. I just dump em straight from the drum into the SM tin can. (Barbaric, I know, but there are only so many hours in the day.) The valve has a paper bit that is susceptible to H2O damage, so you're supposed to wipe it out with a dry paper towel and not wash it. __________________ It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues. -A. Lincoln

10-08-2009, 07:57 AM	#7
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: Storage Tins Mine get cooled over a fan in a collander after roasting, then put in the tin. I normally have a day or two worth of beans in the grinder hopper so I am not going to the tin for a couple days. I'm roasting twice a week now and actually find that I am liking the stuff better after 3 days of rest and even notice more oils showing up on the darker roasts after a few days. I guess this this can still be considered fresh. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"

10-08-2009, 01:00 PM	#8
Cigargal Waiting for SoCal XI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,472 Trading: (25)	Re: Storage Tins I wish I could get ahead on the roasting. It seems like I am always needing more coffee!

10-08-2009, 03:37 PM	#9
Mister Moo I barely grok the obvious Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Lizard Lick, NC Posts: 1,417 Trading: (3)	Re: Storage Tins Coffee usually develops for days after roasting, IMO, not hours. Sometimes it isn't "there" for 5-6 days post-roast and, thereafter, can hang good for two weeks with reasonable storage. If you're falling behind then you only need bigger roasters. Y'all need to be looking into a 4-burner gas grill conversion or stacked SCCO or something like that. Those FRs and IRs are good for learning. After that you need to, uh, scale up! Crikey, Fl'ink - you'll need at least a 4-burner grill/roaster to keep that Brasilia fed. __________________ "I hope you had the time of your life."

10-08-2009, 10:02 PM	#10
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: Storage Tins I'm actually going through a mind bending research on roasters and am leaning towards the Hottop programmable at this point. I don't see the Freshroast lasting more than a couple more months max. I am definitely pushing it and don't wait the suggested 30 minutes rest between roasts and cheat quite a bit past the 8 minutes max. I am even finding myself taking off the chaff collector to let a little heat escape so I can get a longer roast. Roasting is something I don't see leaving my life and really want to get it right on the upgrade and am wondering if I can keep it somewhat simple and dependable on the scale up while avoiding buyer's remorse. The Brasilia isn't overly hungry as far as i can see, and since I got the squirting and whistling under control, it's just packing a few portafilters a day to keep me running, which actually reduces my trips to Sam's Club for Monster energy drink by the case. The main challenge has been keeping the thing shiny and not burning myself on all the metal that I didn't previously have. I am a bit scarred at this point from some groggy mornings bumping into hot brewgroups and probably shouldn't have taken off the "caution" sticker so soon. On the positive side, I haven't fallen victim to any scalding citrus acid in the eyes as a result of the excellent pressure relief on the E61's valve for backflushing. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane" Last edited by floydpink; 10-08-2009 at 10:15 PM.

10-09-2009, 06:27 AM	#11
germantown rob Still not Adjusted Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rob Location: Philadelphia Posts: 330 Trading: (1)	Re: Storage Tins Pete, are you talking about the Hottop "P"? I highly suggest the "B' over the "P". I fell into the same allure the P gave but in reality the B is more controllable. I would look into building a BBQ roaster because of the climate you live in, amount that can be roasted, and heat control. If I can figure out a way to add a bean mass probe to the drum I will be building one for myself for those big roasting times. Shinning metel and burning yourself on it, ah, good old ABS plastic sure is cool to touch and a dirty sponge cleans messes off. Sweet Maria tins rule, I like the way they look on the countertop. Last edited by germantown rob; 10-09-2009 at 06:36 AM.