Oil Found in Cuban waters

Sauer Grapes · 10-23-2008, 10:06 PM

OK, doesn't sound like news, but apparently it's double what they were believed to have. Some news stories have already made the assumption that there is a possibility that this might be what ends the embargo.

I personally don't think it will, but who knows.

So, if there was a hypothetical vote to end the embargo, how would you vote? (public vote, I know wouldn't happen ever).

10-23-2008, 10:10 PM

i say no, i think it would really affect the quality of cigars

wrench turner 85 · 10-23-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

i say no, i think it would really affect the quality of cigars

i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing quality. but the price would go threw the roof.

10-23-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wrench turner 85

i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing qulity.

i dunno, i think it would get out of control. there would be so many people wanting to try cubans, the demand for them would be unreal.

groogs · 10-23-2008, 10:25 PM

I had to say No, because I think the demand would go through the roof and they would be imposible to get. Not that I get any now.

Lee · 10-23-2008, 11:35 PM

It's all about supply and demand. The rest of the world is smoking CC's at a good price. They may go up in price but then the NC's will go down. A lot of the NC's are already pricier than the CC's. End the embargo now!!

poker · 10-23-2008, 11:41 PM

theres an embargo?

SmokinCozy · 10-23-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wrench turner 85

i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing quality. but the price would go threw the roof.

So why do some dodge certain years?

sikk50 · 10-24-2008, 12:38 AM

Too much bad blood between the US and Cuba, I think they would stiff us on oil, even if we lifted the embargo

Ratters · 10-24-2008, 01:00 AM

Yes, because then demand will drop for my Honduran and Nic smokes so I can get them on the cheap of cbid.

doctorcue · 10-24-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratters

Yes, because then demand will drop for my Honduran and Nic smokes so I can get them on the cheap of cbid.

Steve is crossing his fingers that those Camachos are going to be cheap!!!!!

Mark C · 10-24-2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokinCozy

So why do some dodge certain years?

Can't control the weather.

taltos · 10-24-2008, 07:14 AM

I voted no and will continue to vote no until Cuba voluntarily starts to make reparations to US companies and individuals who had assets nationalized and until their human rights abuses end.

skibumdc · 10-24-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wrench turner 85

i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing quality. but the price would go threw the roof.

Pride in the work has nothing to do with the Gov't control and the distribution. The workers do what the Gov't says....it's called communism.

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Originally Posted by poker

theres an embargo?

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Originally Posted by Mark C

Can't control the weather.

Nope. Cuba during some years had BAD quality control issues. CA magazine has talked about it and so have other forums. They blew up production and the quality suffered. They eventually scaled back down production until they could get it under control.

Habanos SA has said they are ready for the increased demand and scalable production if need be. But then again this is a gov't controlled organization so they speak what the gov't tells them to.

Also Most fo the farms changed the tobacco plant types to yield more crop per acre which changed the taste in 2003. It's why people covet pre-2003 cubans...that and they have at least 5 years of age on them.

ucla695 · 10-24-2008, 07:36 AM

Yes. I think quality would suffer initially, but it would eventualy come back.

Pyro · 10-24-2008, 08:03 AM

The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

Clampdown · 10-24-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sikk50

Too much bad blood between the US and Cuba, I think they would stiff us on oil, even if we lifted the embargo

The same could have been said with the United States and Soviet Union/Russia and we trade with one another. Hell, half of our friends today were at one time on our S list. I would like to see the embargo lifted because I think its an archaic policy that isn’t working, and the only people that have paid the price are the Cuban people. However, selfish reasons make me worry about the quality of the VCRs and TVs that I will be receiving from my friends down south.

10-24-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyro

The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

I would have to agree with someone who has such an awsome name.

borndead1 · 10-24-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyro

The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

YES!!!!!!!!!! Personally, I can hardly wait for that to happen. Imagine the blending possibilities!!!!!

dunng · 10-24-2008, 08:59 AM

I voted Yes... but I am afraid of change...

10-23-2008, 10:06 PM	#1
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Oil Found in Cuban waters OK, doesn't sound like news, but apparently it's double what they were believed to have. Some news stories have already made the assumption that there is a possibility that this might be what ends the embargo. I personally don't think it will, but who knows. So, if there was a hypothetical vote to end the embargo, how would you vote? (public vote, I know wouldn't happen ever).

10-23-2008, 10:10 PM	#2
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters i say no, i think it would really affect the quality of cigars

10-23-2008, 10:25 PM	#5
groogs Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Grant Posts: 1,945 Trading: (62)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters I had to say No, because I think the demand would go through the roof and they would be imposible to get. Not that I get any now.

10-23-2008, 11:35 PM	#6
Lee Life is good! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Lee Location: SW Michigan Posts: 208 Trading: (7)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters It's all about supply and demand. The rest of the world is smoking CC's at a good price. They may go up in price but then the NC's will go down. A lot of the NC's are already pricier than the CC's. End the embargo now!!

10-23-2008, 11:41 PM	#7
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10-24-2008, 12:38 AM	#9
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters Too much bad blood between the US and Cuba, I think they would stiff us on oil, even if we lifted the embargo __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

10-24-2008, 01:00 AM	#10
Ratters Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,848 Trading: (2)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters Yes, because then demand will drop for my Honduran and Nic smokes so I can get them on the cheap of cbid.

10-24-2008, 07:14 AM	#13
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters I voted no and will continue to vote no until Cuba voluntarily starts to make reparations to US companies and individuals who had assets nationalized and until their human rights abuses end.

10-24-2008, 07:36 AM	#15
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters Yes. I think quality would suffer initially, but it would eventualy come back.

10-24-2008, 08:03 AM	#16
Pyro Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Per Location: Sweden Posts: 30 Trading: (0)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

10-24-2008, 08:59 AM	#20
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters I voted Yes... but I am afraid of change... __________________ MassHole Banter