I won't be buying any of these...ever

shark · 12-10-2015, 06:00 PM

Villiger Dismisses Majority of U.S. Staff

Villiger Cigars has dismissed the majority of its U.S. sales and support staff, save for three individuals who handle inside sales for the company in their domestic headquarters.

Shawna Williams, the company’s former vice president, told halfwheel that she resigned from the company about three weeks ago, while many of the company’s reps and support staff were told of their dismissal today.

An individual who had been with Villiger told halfwheel that the company went so far as to cut off company credit cards while their reps were on the road, leaving them scrambling to get home and sort out what might be next for them.

The move comes as a shock to a company that had seemed to be headed towards expanded U.S. growth; earlier this year the company entered into a logistics agreement with Sutliff Tobacco, with the company providing warehouses, logistics and backoffice sales support, including customer invoicing, accounts receivable and customer service while Villiger would maintain its own sales, telesales and marketing teams that will stay focused on its retailer and distributor relationships. That relationship hasn’t gone as hoped, according to one former Villiger employee, who said that it was expected that the relationship would be dissolved by spring of 2016.

The company has also tried to reinvigorate its domestic catalog, launching the Villiger Connecticut Krēmē, Trill by Villiger and the Villiger Cabareté Maduro in the spring of 2014.

Emails sent to Michael Blumendeller, head of large cigars for Villiger Söhne GmbH, have yet to be returned.

http://halfwheel.com/villiger-dismis...ampaign=buffer

themoneycollector · 12-10-2015, 06:07 PM

I don't think any serious aficionado smoked villigers anyway....which would be their primary problem.

The Poet · 12-10-2015, 06:17 PM

The Swiss are notorious asses. How is this news?

Think I'll go burn a Braniff now.

icehog3 · 12-10-2015, 11:19 PM

A what?

The Poet · 12-10-2015, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

A what?

http://villigercigars.com/index.cfm/villiger-braniff

The above is neither a solicitation to sell or buy, but is posted for information purposes only.

icehog3 · 12-10-2015, 11:32 PM

Sarcasm is wasted on Mensa members.....

The Poet · 12-10-2015, 11:37 PM

That's why Gore invented the Sarcasm emoji.

icehog3 · 12-10-2015, 11:44 PM

I thought it was Abraham Lincoln?

shark · 12-11-2015, 05:28 AM

No, it was Al Gore.

dijit · 12-11-2015, 05:56 AM

They just bought my ban on their cigars. Wont even let my dog chew em up now.

mosesbotbol · 12-11-2015, 08:16 AM

Villiger is a geriatric smoke, their market must be shrinking the US as it is. Europe has a better market for such "cigars".

Subvet642 · 12-11-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet

The Swiss are notorious asses. How is this news?

You wield a mighty broad brush, Sir.

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The Poet · 12-11-2015, 04:33 PM

OK, noted Darren. Thanks for the kind warning.

Had I the time, or the inclination, I'd share some of my past experience in trying to do business with those wonderful people. And no, it did not involve Nazi gold.

Subvet642 · 12-11-2015, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet

OK, noted Darren. Thanks for the kind warning.

Had I the time, or the inclination, I'd share some of my past experience in trying to do business with those wonderful people. And no, it did not involve Nazi gold.

And I'd share stories of dedicated medical researchers and physicians from Switzerland toiling ceaselessly to save children's lives.

Porch Dweller · 12-11-2015, 04:58 PM

I ate a Toblerone bar once. It was pretty darned good. However, I don't care for Swiss cheese.

I'm conflicted.

Subvet642 · 12-12-2015, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porch Dweller

I ate a Toblerone bar once. It was pretty darned good. However, I don't care for Swiss cheese.

I'm conflicted.

I'm a fat guy; I love them both!

Genetic Defect · 12-12-2015, 07:38 AM

I'm an idiot, I knew what you meant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

Sarcasm is wasted on Mensa members.....

Genetic Defect · 12-12-2015, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet

OK, noted Darren. Thanks for the kind warning.

Had I the time, or the inclination, I'd share some of my past experience in trying to do business with those wonderful people. And no, it did not involve Nazi gold.

Remember, some asses wouldn't want to be affiliated with the wonderful people.

12-10-2015, 06:00 PM	#1
shark Cigar Smokin' Patriot Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Ron Location: Michigan Posts: 3,566 Trading: (0)	I won't be buying any of these...ever Villiger Dismisses Majority of U.S. Staff Villiger Cigars has dismissed the majority of its U.S. sales and support staff, save for three individuals who handle inside sales for the company in their domestic headquarters. Shawna Williams, the company’s former vice president, told halfwheel that she resigned from the company about three weeks ago, while many of the company’s reps and support staff were told of their dismissal today. An individual who had been with Villiger told halfwheel that the company went so far as to cut off company credit cards while their reps were on the road, leaving them scrambling to get home and sort out what might be next for them. The move comes as a shock to a company that had seemed to be headed towards expanded U.S. growth; earlier this year the company entered into a logistics agreement with Sutliff Tobacco, with the company providing warehouses, logistics and backoffice sales support, including customer invoicing, accounts receivable and customer service while Villiger would maintain its own sales, telesales and marketing teams that will stay focused on its retailer and distributor relationships. That relationship hasn’t gone as hoped, according to one former Villiger employee, who said that it was expected that the relationship would be dissolved by spring of 2016. The company has also tried to reinvigorate its domestic catalog, launching the Villiger Connecticut Krēmē, Trill by Villiger and the Villiger Cabareté Maduro in the spring of 2014. Emails sent to Michael Blumendeller, head of large cigars for Villiger Söhne GmbH, have yet to be returned. http://halfwheel.com/villiger-dismis...ampaign=buffer __________________ Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery None but ourselves can free our minds

12-10-2015, 06:07 PM	#2
themoneycollector Nicotiana Tabacum Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hill AFB, UT Posts: 1,258 Trading: (108)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever I don't think any serious aficionado smoked villigers anyway....which would be their primary problem.

12-10-2015, 06:17 PM	#3
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever The Swiss are notorious asses. How is this news? Think I'll go burn a Braniff now. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

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icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,305 Trading: (60)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever A what? __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

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icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,305 Trading: (60)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever Sarcasm is wasted on Mensa members..... __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

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The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever That's why Gore invented the Sarcasm emoji. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

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icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,305 Trading: (60)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever I thought it was Abraham Lincoln? __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

12-11-2015, 05:28 AM	#9
shark Cigar Smokin' Patriot Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Ron Location: Michigan Posts: 3,566 Trading: (0)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever No, it was Al Gore. __________________ Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery None but ourselves can free our minds

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dijit Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 First Name: Mike Location: Brownsburg, Indiana Posts: 2,186 Trading: (48)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever They just bought my ban on their cigars. Wont even let my dog chew em up now. __________________ Sporting goods raffle for a great cause. PM me for tickets.

12-11-2015, 08:16 AM	#11
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever Villiger is a geriatric smoke, their market must be shrinking the US as it is. Europe has a better market for such "cigars". __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

12-11-2015, 04:33 PM	#13
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever OK, noted Darren. Thanks for the kind warning. Had I the time, or the inclination, I'd share some of my past experience in trying to do business with those wonderful people. And no, it did not involve Nazi gold. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

12-11-2015, 04:58 PM	#15
Porch Dweller Life is for living Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: James Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 8,402 Trading: (24)	Re: I won't be buying any of these...ever I ate a Toblerone bar once. It was pretty darned good. However, I don't care for Swiss cheese. I'm conflicted. __________________ A 1911 in the hand is faster than 911 on the phone