Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it???

FUEL · 06-02-2013, 01:56 AM

Just kinda curious. I was a casual cig smoker in my drinking days and was about a pack to a pack and a quarter smoker for 1.5 years before I quit. I am a recovering alcoholic (sober 9 months on the 8th) but thankfully I was a short term "hard drinker" for only 16 months or so I know some potential long term health issues are a maybe a result of those two. The quitting booze helped with the memory so it might sound odd, I'm not worried about adverse affects of the drinking as long as I remain sober, which I never plan to drink again. Or at least until I'm 70 and can be the old creepy guy at the club ogling the college girls lmao.

As the title asks, do you ever think about the consequences or the possibility / potential of the consequences of long term cigar smoking or suffered any thus far in your stogie career? Curious from the perspective of those that just mouth the smoke and those that retro-hale as well. When I started learning to retro-hale it opened up a whole new dimension so admittedly I have read not to do it consistently but on a stick say the size of a Undercrown Corona Viva! I retro a good 1/3rd of it. I can smoke a La Flor Dominican Double Ligero Digger on an empty stomach and not get a nic buzz and retro a good 3" of that 8 1/2" x 60 RG stick if that says anything.

In-between quitting smoking and picking up cigars again, I went for 1.5 years with no nicotine with the exception of last June when I was in LA for the Kings vs. Devils Stanley Cup games 3 & 4. I thought I'm on vacation, one pack won't hurt. I had two cigs and I thought I was going to have to go to the ER as my chest felt like an elephant was sitting on it or both my lungs collapsed. From that day on I knew / know I'll never smoke another cig again so I don't worry about a nic addiction from cigars.

My quantity has dropped of SIGNIFICANTLY since my humis decided to grow wings at 50mph in my catastrophic moving disaster and I moved to a "soft crash" place until I get back on my feet again that is not herf friendly. So went from about 2-3 a day (so up to 21 a week) to now maybe if I am lucky 2-4 a week.

Thoughts???

J.

icehog3 · 06-02-2013, 02:10 AM

The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know.

FUEL · 06-02-2013, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know.

Tom, how old yee be?

icehog3 · 06-02-2013, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FUEL

Tom, how old yee be?

Old enough to know better, James.

FUEL · 06-02-2013, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Old enough to know better, James.

lmao, go to bed ya ole cranky bastardo!

Night Sir.

J.

Porch Dweller · 06-02-2013, 06:25 AM

Nope. As Iron Maiden sang in some song some time ago, "As soon as you're born you're dying". Might as well have some enjoyment on the journey.

FUEL · 06-02-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Porch Dweller

Nope. As Iron Maiden sang in some song some time ago, "As soon as you're born you're dying". Might as well have some enjoyment on the journey.

Wow I have not hear Iron Maiden I ages!! I suppose and Idon't remember who originated the line, "It's burn out than to fade away"

J.

68TriShield · 06-02-2013, 07:39 AM

Too many other things will kill me long before the cigars.So the short answer is no.

bighairlogo · 06-02-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FUEL

Wow I have not hear Iron Maiden I ages!! I suppose and Idon't remember who originated the line, "It's burn out than to fade away"

J.

"It's better to burn out than to fade away"
Neil young sang it, Curt Cobain made it infamous

ApexAZ · 06-02-2013, 01:51 PM

I smoke 2 or 3 sticks per day and this concerns me a little. It seems like there just isn't a lot of data compared to cigarettes.

The most immediate health issues I have concerning cigars are my allergies. They certainly don't help.

blugill · 06-02-2013, 02:02 PM

Tell you what I know after six years of cigar smoking on a regular basis, my stress melts away. I find calm and peace and in this crazy and upside down world that is priceless.

emopunker2004 · 06-02-2013, 02:27 PM

Nope. I do what I want!

RWhisenand · 06-02-2013, 03:09 PM

Just for my own curiosity I've asked both of my past two doctors about cigar smoking, without inhaling. First one told me that there was nothing I was doing to my health, the second one gave me a lecture about tobacco use. I stopped going to her.

We partake in many more dangerous activities to worry about cigars. Once when my wife and I were BS-ing about cigars and health she mentioned that Fidel has lived a very long life, as did God, well George Burns anyway.

blugill · 06-02-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RWhisenand

Just for my own curiosity I've asked both of my past two doctors about cigar smoking, without inhaling. First one told me that there was nothing I was doing to my health, the second one gave me a lecture about tobacco use. I stopped going to her.

We partake in many more dangerous activities to worry about cigars. Once when my wife and I were BS-ing about cigars and health she mentioned that Fidel has lived a very long life, as did God, well George Burns anyway.

And Winston Churchill, he drank quite a bit and smoked like a chimney.

mosesbotbol · 06-02-2013, 03:56 PM

Only you can no when your cigar smoking goes beyond a relaxing past time to something else... Tobacco use is addicting and if you have tendencies towards addiciton, you have to be aware of what how often you do everyting.

Weelok · 06-02-2013, 04:21 PM

I am more concerned about how many cigars I buy as opposed to how many I smoke. I smoke less then I buy and some cigars are aging as I don't rotate them in for one reason or another and many don't age well.

I smoke outside and smoke about 5 - 7 a week. The data I've seen says that is nothing. But even it is bad life is not worth living if I have to be like Bloomberg.

Big Maduro · 06-02-2013, 08:39 PM

I'm with you weelok, about 7or8 a week. I'm 57 and chain smoked camels for 25 years before I quit around three years ago. Least of my worries is a few cigars.

cjhalbrooks · 06-02-2013, 09:01 PM

We all could be doing worse things to our bodies so i think we are safe.

forgop · 06-02-2013, 10:31 PM

I'm more worried about the things in our food to include sweeteners that are linked to causing cancer in laboratory animals, genentically modified foods, asbestos, you name it more so than cigars void of the chemicals added to cigarettes that I generally don't inhale into my lungs.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but in every COPD patient I've seen thus far, not a single one was a cigar smoker. I work in a high stress/fast-paced environment. I need outlets to unwind and having a handful of cigars on a weekly basis is going to have far less of an impact on my health than what most everyone eats on a daily basis.

irratebass · 06-03-2013, 09:28 AM

Interesting topic that I haven't seen discussed a lot. I had 6 cigars this past Saturday (which is a lot, and I was feeling the effects and even ruined my palette that I couldn't taste a rare cigar my boss threw at me) one of the regulars in the shop is a Doctor, he is the one who tells the family that their loved one is not going to make it or that have already passed (rough job if ya ask me), anyway we were talking and he asked me how many I had that day when I told him his eyes got big and he said that 1 cigar is like 16 cigs or something like that and he added up I had like 68 cigs that day.

He asked me if I ever got a nic buzz, I told him that I did and I was drinking Coke at the moment, he said he would be more concerned if I didn't get a buzz.

Anyway not sure if it's true or not, but cigars like most of you have said relaxes me and makes me less stressful, and I'm not quitting now.

06-02-2013, 01:56 AM	#1
FUEL Just 6 days... Join Date: Apr 2013 First Name: James Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 402 Trading: (0)	Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? Just kinda curious. I was a casual cig smoker in my drinking days and was about a pack to a pack and a quarter smoker for 1.5 years before I quit. I am a recovering alcoholic (sober 9 months on the 8th) but thankfully I was a short term "hard drinker" for only 16 months or so I know some potential long term health issues are a maybe a result of those two. The quitting booze helped with the memory so it might sound odd, I'm not worried about adverse affects of the drinking as long as I remain sober, which I never plan to drink again. Or at least until I'm 70 and can be the old creepy guy at the club ogling the college girls lmao. As the title asks, do you ever think about the consequences or the possibility / potential of the consequences of long term cigar smoking or suffered any thus far in your stogie career? Curious from the perspective of those that just mouth the smoke and those that retro-hale as well. When I started learning to retro-hale it opened up a whole new dimension so admittedly I have read not to do it consistently but on a stick say the size of a Undercrown Corona Viva! I retro a good 1/3rd of it. I can smoke a La Flor Dominican Double Ligero Digger on an empty stomach and not get a nic buzz and retro a good 3" of that 8 1/2" x 60 RG stick if that says anything. In-between quitting smoking and picking up cigars again, I went for 1.5 years with no nicotine with the exception of last June when I was in LA for the Kings vs. Devils Stanley Cup games 3 & 4. I thought I'm on vacation, one pack won't hurt. I had two cigs and I thought I was going to have to go to the ER as my chest felt like an elephant was sitting on it or both my lungs collapsed. From that day on I knew / know I'll never smoke another cig again so I don't worry about a nic addiction from cigars. My quantity has dropped of SIGNIFICANTLY since my humis decided to grow wings at 50mph in my catastrophic moving disaster and I moved to a "soft crash" place until I get back on my feet again that is not herf friendly. So went from about 2-3 a day (so up to 21 a week) to now maybe if I am lucky 2-4 a week. Thoughts??? J. __________________ Last edited by FUEL; 06-02-2013 at 01:59 AM. Reason: changed title

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icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,304 Trading: (60)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

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Porch Dweller Life is for living Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: James Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 8,401 Trading: (24)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? Nope. As Iron Maiden sang in some song some time ago, "As soon as you're born you're dying". Might as well have some enjoyment on the journey. __________________ A 1911 in the hand is faster than 911 on the phone

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68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? Too many other things will kill me long before the cigars.So the short answer is no.

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ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? I smoke 2 or 3 sticks per day and this concerns me a little. It seems like there just isn't a lot of data compared to cigarettes. The most immediate health issues I have concerning cigars are my allergies. They certainly don't help.

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blugill Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Enid, Oklahoma Posts: 867 Trading: (10)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? Tell you what I know after six years of cigar smoking on a regular basis, my stress melts away. I find calm and peace and in this crazy and upside down world that is priceless. __________________ My Blog

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emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? Nope. I do what I want! __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

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RWhisenand Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Rob Location: Nevada Posts: 798 Trading: (7)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? Just for my own curiosity I've asked both of my past two doctors about cigar smoking, without inhaling. First one told me that there was nothing I was doing to my health, the second one gave me a lecture about tobacco use. I stopped going to her. We partake in many more dangerous activities to worry about cigars. Once when my wife and I were BS-ing about cigars and health she mentioned that Fidel has lived a very long life, as did God, well George Burns anyway. __________________ No function well beer without.

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mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? Only you can no when your cigar smoking goes beyond a relaxing past time to something else... Tobacco use is addicting and if you have tendencies towards addiciton, you have to be aware of what how often you do everyting. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

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Weelok I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,088 Trading: (21)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? I am more concerned about how many cigars I buy as opposed to how many I smoke. I smoke less then I buy and some cigars are aging as I don't rotate them in for one reason or another and many don't age well. I smoke outside and smoke about 5 - 7 a week. The data I've seen says that is nothing. But even it is bad life is not worth living if I have to be like Bloomberg.

06-02-2013, 08:39 PM	#17
Big Maduro Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Ohio Posts: 479 Trading: (14)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? I'm with you weelok, about 7or8 a week. I'm 57 and chain smoked camels for 25 years before I quit around three years ago. Least of my worries is a few cigars.

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cjhalbrooks I am behind you. SHHHHH Join Date: Dec 2011 First Name: Cory Location: Under a Bridge, trying to find the troll who stole my soul. Posts: 1,370 Trading: (20)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? We all could be doing worse things to our bodies so i think we are safe. __________________ GMCGTPWHAF Tennessee Chapter. Down with the bloody BIG HEAD

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forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? I'm more worried about the things in our food to include sweeteners that are linked to causing cancer in laboratory animals, genentically modified foods, asbestos, you name it more so than cigars void of the chemicals added to cigarettes that I generally don't inhale into my lungs. I'm not saying it's impossible, but in every COPD patient I've seen thus far, not a single one was a cigar smoker. I work in a high stress/fast-paced environment. I need outlets to unwind and having a handful of cigars on a weekly basis is going to have far less of an impact on my health than what most everyone eats on a daily basis.

06-03-2013, 09:28 AM	#20
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it??? Interesting topic that I haven't seen discussed a lot. I had 6 cigars this past Saturday (which is a lot, and I was feeling the effects and even ruined my palette that I couldn't taste a rare cigar my boss threw at me) one of the regulars in the shop is a Doctor, he is the one who tells the family that their loved one is not going to make it or that have already passed (rough job if ya ask me), anyway we were talking and he asked me how many I had that day when I told him his eyes got big and he said that 1 cigar is like 16 cigs or something like that and he added up I had like 68 cigs that day. He asked me if I ever got a nic buzz, I told him that I did and I was drinking Coke at the moment, he said he would be more concerned if I didn't get a buzz. Anyway not sure if it's true or not, but cigars like most of you have said relaxes me and makes me less stressful, and I'm not quitting now. __________________