50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! - Page 2

pektel · 04-26-2012, 02:32 PM

Yep, I understand the meaning of grey market. I was just speculating the stance by Habanos SA might be to cry counterfeit since the cigars weren't going through the proper channels.

markem · 04-26-2012, 02:42 PM

If SA Habanos says that they are legit, then we have another Chicago level of paranoia on legit channels in to the US. That would cost vendors millions.

hotreds · 04-26-2012, 03:27 PM

Hopefully and supposedly more info will be forthcoming.

icehog3 · 04-26-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HollywoodQue

Doesn't seem like someone would goes through so much trouble for "counterfeit " cigars. Maybe the real distributors of the cuban's didn't want anyone to know that they were in fact "real" cubans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel

Yep, I understand the meaning of grey market. I was just speculating the stance by Habanos SA might be to cry counterfeit since the cigars weren't going through the proper channels.

Definitely within the realm of possibilty. Like Hugh said, hopefully more information will come to light.

GoatLocker · 04-26-2012, 04:57 PM

Damn! I was wondering what was taking so long. I guess I better contact my vendor.

11-05-2012, 11:52 AM

Hi any news about the cigars in Rome. Who is finally saying the truth...

hotreds · 11-05-2012, 01:38 PM

iaMkcK · 11-05-2012, 01:54 PM

Nothing to see here. 7 months later, I'm sure any and all information that is going to be released -- Has.

11-05-2012, 02:36 PM

I`m new to this site and I was looking for interesting information about the cigar industries.

big pete · 11-05-2012, 02:39 PM

11-05-2012, 02:40 PM

Is the case finished?
What was the final outcome?
I believe the point of posting information is been able to fallow up...
Thanks

markem · 11-05-2012, 02:43 PM

It is a good question. If anyone has anything pertinent to post, I'm sure that they will. Since it is a good question, it might be nice for the usual suspects to not jump on the new guy just for asking.

11-05-2012, 02:57 PM

Thanks Markem.

iaMkcK · 11-05-2012, 03:10 PM

Didn't mean to come off so brash. Generally speaking, once a government agency gets involved, everyone just kinda.. Shuts up about it. Habanos would never claim they're real, the Government is gonna want Duties paid on it and I doubt on that scale anyone would.

Look up the O'Hare Cohiba Seizure from 2 or 3 years back around November.. It's another massive seizure, except in the US. I'm sure the Customs officers appreciated a few years of free cigars to burn... One.. By One.. By One..

kydsid · 11-05-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by iaMkcK

Didn't mean to come off so brash. Generally speaking, once a government agency gets involved, everyone just kinda.. Shuts up about it. Habanos would never claim they're real, the Government is gonna want Duties paid on it and I doubt on that scale anyone would.

Look up the O'Hare Cohiba Seizure from 2 or 3 years back around November.. It's another massive seizure, except in the US. I'm sure the Customs officers appreciated a few years of free cigars to burn... One.. By One.. By One..

No more like once something happens no one cares to follow up, other than the owner of the goods. And the owner isn't going to bother advertising the outcome. Now if you bothered many governments do publicly announce things, for those willing to look into things. However again apathy rules the day.

And I'm so tired of people repeating that last fallacy. Right up there with cigars from an online merchant are different from those bought in a retail store.

icehog3 · 11-05-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kydsid

I'm so tired of people repeating this fallacy. Right up there with cigars from an online merchant are different from those bought in a retail store.

Exactly...as if a Custome Agent making good money and a pension would put that at risk for a $200 box of Cuban cigars.

iaMkcK · 11-05-2012, 04:44 PM

Considering I work for the DoD, I know it isn't true -- it's just nice to at least imagine someone got to smoke them.

11-06-2012, 06:06 AM

I heard from another source that the cigars are real and they are from one of HABANOS SA official vendors.

JohnRogers · 11-06-2012, 06:55 AM

They need to be burned immediately!

...I'm willing to assist in that endeavor.

(20th similar lame post?)

11-06-2012, 04:26 PM

And smoke one by one!!!

04-26-2012, 02:32 PM	#21
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! Yep, I understand the meaning of grey market. I was just speculating the stance by Habanos SA might be to cry counterfeit since the cigars weren't going through the proper channels. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

04-26-2012, 02:42 PM	#22
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! If SA Habanos says that they are legit, then we have another Chicago level of paranoia on legit channels in to the US. That would cost vendors millions. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

04-26-2012, 03:27 PM	#23
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! Hopefully and supposedly more info will be forthcoming. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

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11-05-2012, 11:52 AM	#26
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hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

11-05-2012, 01:54 PM	#28
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11-05-2012, 02:40 PM	#31
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11-05-2012, 02:43 PM	#32
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! It is a good question. If anyone has anything pertinent to post, I'm sure that they will. Since it is a good question, it might be nice for the usual suspects to not jump on the new guy just for asking. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

11-05-2012, 02:57 PM	#33
Inside_INFO Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! Thanks Markem.

11-05-2012, 03:10 PM	#34
iaMkcK Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Jarrett Location: SoCal Posts: 570 Trading: (8)	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! Didn't mean to come off so brash. Generally speaking, once a government agency gets involved, everyone just kinda.. Shuts up about it. Habanos would never claim they're real, the Government is gonna want Duties paid on it and I doubt on that scale anyone would. Look up the O'Hare Cohiba Seizure from 2 or 3 years back around November.. It's another massive seizure, except in the US. I'm sure the Customs officers appreciated a few years of free cigars to burn... One.. By One.. By One..

11-05-2012, 04:44 PM	#37
iaMkcK Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Jarrett Location: SoCal Posts: 570 Trading: (8)	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! Considering I work for the DoD, I know it isn't true -- it's just nice to at least imagine someone got to smoke them.

11-06-2012, 06:06 AM	#38
Inside_INFO Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 50,000 Cuban cigars seized in Rome! I heard from another source that the cigars are real and they are from one of HABANOS SA official vendors.

11-06-2012, 06:55 AM	#39
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11-06-2012, 04:26 PM	#40
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