Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad?

Chainsaw13 · 02-28-2012, 09:57 PM

Tonight I texted my friend Dave to see if he wanted to come smoke a cigar out in the mancave. Surprisingly he said he'd be by in a bit. Dave's not a big cigar smoker and tends towards sweetened tip/flavored cigars. No biggie, just cool to hang with him.

He stopped by a local B&M to pick up a couple sticks. He's found the DE Java Mint flavored are to his liking (I tasted and actually not bad). After taking off the cello and clipping the cap, he showed me the cigar and the big ole patch job done on the wrapper. Very strange. Surprised it wouldn't been rejected.

It still smoked good for him, so no harm no foul.

emopunker2004 · 02-28-2012, 10:02 PM

Coulda been a B&M patch job, not from DE.

Chainsaw13 · 02-28-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Coulda been a B&M patch job, not from DE.

I thought that too, but the sticker on the back of the cello was new. My buddy had just ripped it to open to get the cigar out.

macsauce13 · 02-28-2012, 10:19 PM

I would say regardless of the sticker condition that was certainly done by someone outside of DE.

emopunker2004 · 02-28-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13

I thought that too, but the sticker on the back of the cello was new. My buddy had just ripped it to open to get the cigar out.

This means nothing really. you can easily remove the sticker enough to open the cello and reclose it.

Chainsaw13 · 02-29-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

This means nothing really. you can easily remove the sticker enough to open the cello and reclose it.

True, but I doubt the B&M went to this trouble. I've not been there yet but as described to me, it's more a tobacco shop than a cigar shop.

Blak Smyth · 02-29-2012, 07:33 AM

Ask Kevin (Savor the Stick) about his Frankenstick he smoked at the Thanksgiving herf in Cali last year! It was an amazing creation!

shilala · 02-29-2012, 08:15 AM

I have to side with the majority on this one. It smells like a B&M trick.
Despite that, who knows? I can easily see someone on the line patching it up when they put on a cap. They have everything they need right there.
I've never gotten a patched up cigar, period. I have had some Fuente stuff that was slopped with pectin all over, but it wasn't because they were patching anything.

Remo · 02-29-2012, 08:21 AM

Awesome

but I doubt DE did it.

CigarSquid · 02-29-2012, 08:34 AM

I had a Java Latte, that I had bought in Bay Area, CA over Thanksgiving. I smoked it, oh prolly, 3 or so weeks ago. It had some repair job like that as well.. Thought it was weird, but it smoked and tasted fine.

ktblunden · 02-29-2012, 08:37 AM

Yeah, I've never seen anything like that make it past quality control from ANY company, let alone DE.

Stephen · 02-29-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

I have had some Fuente stuff that was slopped with pectin all over, but it wasn't because they were patching anything.

Pectin you say...?

SmokinApe · 02-29-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by garryyjr

I had a Java Latte, that I had bought in Bay Area, CA over Thanksgiving. I smoked it, oh prolly, 3 or so weeks ago. It had some repair job like that as well.. Thought it was weird, but it smoked and tasted fine.

Must have been from the same B&M

CigarSquid · 02-29-2012, 03:06 PM

Walnut Creek

Chainsaw13 · 02-29-2012, 05:11 PM

I highly doubt it was a case of the B&M fixing it. Why go through all the trouble to carefully remove it from the cello, all the while not tearing the sticker holding the cello shut, patch the cigar, carefully put it back in the cello, and then seal it back up. Again, this isn't a cigar shop more than a tobacco shop. My experience with most of these places is they could care less about the condition of the product, just whether you buy it or not.

From what I can gather, these sticks are a collaboration between DE and Rocky Patel. The sticker even has the RP logo on it, but clearly states the cigar being the Java Mint and the size. The pics I"ve seen online show it coming in a DE box. Possibly RP rolls these and DE distributes because they're more known for the infused cigars?

Anyway, not to get into a big discussion about DE's production standards. I just thought it highly odd to get something like this from what appeared to be straight from the factory.

And no, it wasn't the same B&M. I"m in Michigan, no where near CA.

cigarmonkel · 02-29-2012, 05:15 PM

Maybe they were that bored? But another question is, if they ARENT a B&M where would they get the stuff to patch it up with? I doubt a tobacco store carries that stuff.

Drez · 02-29-2012, 05:19 PM

shes not the prettiest of the bunch but as long as it smoked good thats all that matters.

AD720 · 02-29-2012, 05:44 PM

I'd send that picture to DE, email, tweet it to JD, whatever. That's pretty poor QC if it came from them and if it didn't (ie the B&M did it) I'm sure they would be interested in knowing about it.

NCRadioMan · 02-29-2012, 05:58 PM

Of course it was done at the b&m. I've had to do it dozens of times making it look as undisturbed as possible. However, we always take a dollar or two off the price.

SmokinApe · 02-29-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

Maybe they were that bored? But another question is, if they ARENT a B&M where would they get the stuff to patch it up with? I doubt a tobacco store carries that stuff.

They could have used some of that Cigar Glue, I heard there is a member here that sells it from time to time...

02-28-2012, 09:57 PM	#1
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,198 Trading: (96)	Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? Tonight I texted my friend Dave to see if he wanted to come smoke a cigar out in the mancave. Surprisingly he said he'd be by in a bit. Dave's not a big cigar smoker and tends towards sweetened tip/flavored cigars. No biggie, just cool to hang with him. He stopped by a local B&M to pick up a couple sticks. He's found the DE Java Mint flavored are to his liking (I tasted and actually not bad). After taking off the cello and clipping the cap, he showed me the cigar and the big ole patch job done on the wrapper. Very strange. Surprised it wouldn't been rejected. It still smoked good for him, so no harm no foul. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

02-28-2012, 10:02 PM	#2
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? Coulda been a B&M patch job, not from DE. __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

02-28-2012, 10:19 PM	#4
macsauce13 Have My Own Room Join Date: Mar 2010 First Name: McKenzie Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 1,107 Trading: (38)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? I would say regardless of the sticker condition that was certainly done by someone outside of DE.

02-29-2012, 07:33 AM	#7
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? Ask Kevin (Savor the Stick) about his Frankenstick he smoked at the Thanksgiving herf in Cali last year! It was an amazing creation! __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

02-29-2012, 08:15 AM	#8
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? I have to side with the majority on this one. It smells like a B&M trick. Despite that, who knows? I can easily see someone on the line patching it up when they put on a cap. They have everything they need right there. I've never gotten a patched up cigar, period. I have had some Fuente stuff that was slopped with pectin all over, but it wasn't because they were patching anything. __________________

02-29-2012, 08:21 AM	#9
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? Awesome but I doubt DE did it. __________________

02-29-2012, 08:34 AM	#10
CigarSquid AKA Garryyjr Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Garry Location: Medford, OR - Cigar Zombie Posts: 3,213 Trading: (39)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? I had a Java Latte, that I had bought in Bay Area, CA over Thanksgiving. I smoked it, oh prolly, 3 or so weeks ago. It had some repair job like that as well.. Thought it was weird, but it smoked and tasted fine. __________________ gaRRy

02-29-2012, 08:37 AM	#11
ktblunden Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Kevin Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 350 Trading: (6)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? Yeah, I've never seen anything like that make it past quality control from ANY company, let alone DE.

02-29-2012, 03:06 PM	#14
CigarSquid AKA Garryyjr Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Garry Location: Medford, OR - Cigar Zombie Posts: 3,213 Trading: (39)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? Walnut Creek __________________ gaRRy

02-29-2012, 05:11 PM	#15
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,198 Trading: (96)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? I highly doubt it was a case of the B&M fixing it. Why go through all the trouble to carefully remove it from the cello, all the while not tearing the sticker holding the cello shut, patch the cigar, carefully put it back in the cello, and then seal it back up. Again, this isn't a cigar shop more than a tobacco shop. My experience with most of these places is they could care less about the condition of the product, just whether you buy it or not. From what I can gather, these sticks are a collaboration between DE and Rocky Patel. The sticker even has the RP logo on it, but clearly states the cigar being the Java Mint and the size. The pics I"ve seen online show it coming in a DE box. Possibly RP rolls these and DE distributes because they're more known for the infused cigars? Anyway, not to get into a big discussion about DE's production standards. I just thought it highly odd to get something like this from what appeared to be straight from the factory. And no, it wasn't the same B&M. I"m in Michigan, no where near CA. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

02-29-2012, 05:15 PM	#16
cigarmonkel User Title goes here Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: a2/ypsi. in the mitten Posts: 1,594 Trading: (32)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? Maybe they were that bored? But another question is, if they ARENT a B&M where would they get the stuff to patch it up with? I doubt a tobacco store carries that stuff.

02-29-2012, 05:19 PM	#17
Drez The Warden Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Frank Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,768 Trading: (35)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? shes not the prettiest of the bunch but as long as it smoked good thats all that matters. __________________ They aren't going to multiply....burn that b!tch!

02-29-2012, 05:44 PM	#18
AD720 I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The City of BOTL-erly Love Posts: 2,684 Trading: (73)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? I'd send that picture to DE, email, tweet it to JD, whatever. That's pretty poor QC if it came from them and if it didn't (ie the B&M did it) I'm sure they would be interested in knowing about it. __________________

02-29-2012, 05:58 PM	#19
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: Ever seen a wrapper repair this bad? Of course it was done at the b&m. I've had to do it dozens of times making it look as undisturbed as possible. However, we always take a dollar or two off the price. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.