Anyone hear of trigger points?

forgop · 01-18-2012, 02:16 PM

For several years, I've dealt with pain associated to a spot just below my left shoulder near my spine that gets incredibly tight. It often causes pain to radiate from my neck to my arm at times. I'd never seen a doctor about it and a little google search identified this type of thing as a trigger point. It seems to get much worse during times of high stress.

Finally going to see a chiropractor this afternoon to see if he can help remedy this issue. Just wondered if anyone else has had a similar issue and what they may have done to get relief at times.

markem · 01-18-2012, 02:24 PM

go to a physical therapist. A very good chiro may be able to help, but the PT will show you exercises to get rid of it and ensure that it does not come back.

Until PT, I spent years with a trigger point that would occasionally dislocate ribs.

forgop · 01-18-2012, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markem

go to a physical therapist. A very good chiro may be able to help, but the PT will show you exercises to get rid of it and ensure that it does not come back.

Until PT, I spent years with a trigger point that would occasionally dislocate ribs.

Will look into a PT as well. Just thought I'd try a chiropractor at first cuz I could get in immediately.

Thanks.

mosesbotbol · 01-18-2012, 02:38 PM

Generally, a Chiropractor should work on your trigger points before stretching and then an adjustment.

They'll use what looks like a door stop on a t-handle to really press into the trigger points.

Stretching is going to be critical thing for you to do. Once muscle pressure and tightness is over your trigger points, you'll feel pain. Just as inflamation will add to this.

A good chiropractor should give you the stretches and exercises that PT would recommend. The difference is that PT does them with you and the Chiropractor will just show you. If a chiropractor does not show you how to stretch; look for another one.

forgop · 01-18-2012, 03:15 PM

The place I'm at now has a PT here, so I'd like to think they will offer a comprehensive plan to dealing with this. I've seen a trigger point injection mentioned, so no idea what that entails just yet.

I did read good reviews on this clinic, so we'll see how it goes. Willing to almost anything at this point.

mosesbotbol · 01-18-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by forgop

I've seen a trigger point injection mentioned, so no idea what that entails just yet.

Done that one; try to avoid it if possible.

forgop · 01-18-2012, 07:39 PM

At this point, I'd almost try anything. It can't be worse than cortisone injections in the heels of my feet.

Chiropractor reviewed my back history and determined that I had 3 very big trigger points. He was particularly interested in seeing the MRI results from my 2 back surgeries in 2010 before doing too much, which I can understand. I have an 11 # differential from one side to the other and he certainly gave my back some good pops. Overall, I can say I came away with a bit of relief in the pain associated with turning my neck left/up/down compared to what it was. Will get to talk more about the x-ray results/MRI scans for a more detailed plan of action at my follow up on Tuesday.

If anything, I'll be happy to let my wife dig the heel of her foot onto these points to give the areas some stretching.

ashtonlady · 01-18-2012, 08:25 PM

My daughter who is a LMP(License Massage Therapist) Deals in trigger point therapy.

chachee52 · 01-18-2012, 08:32 PM

Speaking as a PT, my first line of action is to figure out what is causing it. Most Chriopractors (not all, I know a few good ones) will tell you that you are out of allignment. The one question that I always ask is why? The symtoms that you are describing can be coming from multiple sources and if you don't find the source it will never go away, even after injections.
So my advice is to find someone that will tell you "why", and not just what.

floydpink · 01-18-2012, 08:46 PM

I've had a life of back problems and have found deep tissue massage and Hydrotherapy (spa) to work best for me.

One of the longest periods of pain free living came after an acupuncture session though....

Your pain sounds very similar to where mine is and standing for long periods of time really aggravates mine as well as periods of high stress.

Try a good massage therapist who knows deep tissue massage and let them really put you through an hour of elbow in the back pain and you'll come out feeling like butter.

forgop · 01-18-2012, 09:18 PM

You're right about the stress though, but whether the trigger points caused the stress or the stress caused the trigger points to flare up, I don't know. It just seems that when I'm stressed, it flares up and I feel like I've got the weight of an elephant on about 3-4 different points of muscle around my left shoulder blade.

I actually happen to have a clinical day at an accupuncture clinic on Monday. Word is that he's very good about giving some demonstrations, so I'll see if he's willing to give my trigger points a good workout.

01-18-2012, 09:41 PM

A have a friend who is a travelling PT. Did you try to consult a neurologist or a neurosurgeon as well?

floydpink · 01-19-2012, 11:18 AM

A chirpractor will push you to come in a few times a week for realignment, but with muscle issues, the alignment will keep getting pulled out of line.

I found a combination of stretching, a good mattress, and a visit for deep tissue massage when things are really tight has made my mid back pain much more manageable.

I've also had a great deal of relief from acupuncture and yoga, but never seem to find the time for them anymore.

forgop · 01-23-2012, 03:16 PM

So I talked to the guy today in my clinical abou my trigger point issue. He had a no show and took the opportunity to give me a treatment. I think he did 4-5 needles around my left shoulder, put a warming lamp over it, and about 30 minutes later, I was done. It's amazing how much the muscles that were as hard as a rock before and have loosened up over the last 4 hours since then.

01-18-2012, 02:16 PM	#1
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Anyone hear of trigger points? For several years, I've dealt with pain associated to a spot just below my left shoulder near my spine that gets incredibly tight. It often causes pain to radiate from my neck to my arm at times. I'd never seen a doctor about it and a little google search identified this type of thing as a trigger point. It seems to get much worse during times of high stress. Finally going to see a chiropractor this afternoon to see if he can help remedy this issue. Just wondered if anyone else has had a similar issue and what they may have done to get relief at times.

01-18-2012, 02:24 PM	#2
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? go to a physical therapist. A very good chiro may be able to help, but the PT will show you exercises to get rid of it and ensure that it does not come back. Until PT, I spent years with a trigger point that would occasionally dislocate ribs. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

01-18-2012, 02:38 PM	#4
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? Generally, a Chiropractor should work on your trigger points before stretching and then an adjustment. They'll use what looks like a door stop on a t-handle to really press into the trigger points. Stretching is going to be critical thing for you to do. Once muscle pressure and tightness is over your trigger points, you'll feel pain. Just as inflamation will add to this. A good chiropractor should give you the stretches and exercises that PT would recommend. The difference is that PT does them with you and the Chiropractor will just show you. If a chiropractor does not show you how to stretch; look for another one. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

01-18-2012, 03:15 PM	#5
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? The place I'm at now has a PT here, so I'd like to think they will offer a comprehensive plan to dealing with this. I've seen a trigger point injection mentioned, so no idea what that entails just yet. I did read good reviews on this clinic, so we'll see how it goes. Willing to almost anything at this point.

01-18-2012, 07:39 PM	#7
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? At this point, I'd almost try anything. It can't be worse than cortisone injections in the heels of my feet. Chiropractor reviewed my back history and determined that I had 3 very big trigger points. He was particularly interested in seeing the MRI results from my 2 back surgeries in 2010 before doing too much, which I can understand. I have an 11 # differential from one side to the other and he certainly gave my back some good pops. Overall, I can say I came away with a bit of relief in the pain associated with turning my neck left/up/down compared to what it was. Will get to talk more about the x-ray results/MRI scans for a more detailed plan of action at my follow up on Tuesday. If anything, I'll be happy to let my wife dig the heel of her foot onto these points to give the areas some stretching.

01-18-2012, 08:25 PM	#8
ashtonlady The Lady is Here Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Laura Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,090 Trading: (8)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? My daughter who is a LMP(License Massage Therapist) Deals in trigger point therapy.

01-18-2012, 08:32 PM	#9
chachee52 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Todd Location: Tyngsboro, MA Posts: 399 Trading: (2)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? Speaking as a PT, my first line of action is to figure out what is causing it. Most Chriopractors (not all, I know a few good ones) will tell you that you are out of allignment. The one question that I always ask is why? The symtoms that you are describing can be coming from multiple sources and if you don't find the source it will never go away, even after injections. So my advice is to find someone that will tell you "why", and not just what. __________________

01-18-2012, 08:46 PM	#10
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? I've had a life of back problems and have found deep tissue massage and Hydrotherapy (spa) to work best for me. One of the longest periods of pain free living came after an acupuncture session though.... Your pain sounds very similar to where mine is and standing for long periods of time really aggravates mine as well as periods of high stress. Try a good massage therapist who knows deep tissue massage and let them really put you through an hour of elbow in the back pain and you'll come out feeling like butter. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane" Last edited by floydpink; 01-18-2012 at 08:51 PM.

01-18-2012, 09:18 PM	#11
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? You're right about the stress though, but whether the trigger points caused the stress or the stress caused the trigger points to flare up, I don't know. It just seems that when I'm stressed, it flares up and I feel like I've got the weight of an elephant on about 3-4 different points of muscle around my left shoulder blade. I actually happen to have a clinical day at an accupuncture clinic on Monday. Word is that he's very good about giving some demonstrations, so I'll see if he's willing to give my trigger points a good workout.

01-18-2012, 09:41 PM	#12
BnBTobacco Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? A have a friend who is a travelling PT. Did you try to consult a neurologist or a neurosurgeon as well?

01-19-2012, 11:18 AM	#13
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? A chirpractor will push you to come in a few times a week for realignment, but with muscle issues, the alignment will keep getting pulled out of line. I found a combination of stretching, a good mattress, and a visit for deep tissue massage when things are really tight has made my mid back pain much more manageable. I've also had a great deal of relief from acupuncture and yoga, but never seem to find the time for them anymore. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"

01-23-2012, 03:16 PM	#14
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: Anyone hear of trigger points? So I talked to the guy today in my clinical abou my trigger point issue. He had a no show and took the opportunity to give me a treatment. I think he did 4-5 needles around my left shoulder, put a warming lamp over it, and about 30 minutes later, I was done. It's amazing how much the muscles that were as hard as a rock before and have loosened up over the last 4 hours since then.