JdN MUWAT Bait Fish

T.G · 12-20-2011, 09:39 PM

Another live review... This time the Joya de Nicaragua / Subculture MUAWT Bait Fish.

These cigars came in about a week ago, and I tried to smoke one ROTT, and the moment I lit it, I knew I screwed up. Bitter, muted, bad burn, all the characteristics of being too moist.

But it still showed promise. So after leaving one out on the counter for a week, I'm back to bug you again.

It's nice. Started off a bit rough, kind of a charcoal, but that was probably due to my uber-scientific humidity reduction method (patent pending).

Woodsy, cinnamon, a bit of coffee notes. Not getting that hint of "classic JdN flavors" that I get out of the regular 60RG MUWAT. A bit of a tingle through a nose exhale from the pepper.

More in a bit...

T.G · 12-20-2011, 09:58 PM

The body is picking up a bit. Heading now more towards the lighter end of full.

Flavors are similar but getting a hint of sweetness that I would associate with some of the Jalapa grown tobaccos that JdN typically uses.

T.G · 12-20-2011, 10:12 PM

Getting down to the end, overall, a very nice little cigar from JdN. Not very dynamic, but yet I'm finding myself burning my fingers trying to get more out of the nub before tossing it.

It's no Punk but it's a good cigar I'd pick up again.

Bill86 · 12-20-2011, 10:23 PM

Great review Adam

I too enjoy the haphazard dryboxing method.

kelmac07 · 12-21-2011, 06:11 AM

Trying very hard to keep my hands off the 5er I bought for a few weeks.

celtic250 · 12-21-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

Trying very hard to keep my hands off the 5er I bought for a few weeks.

Same here. My goal was to wait until next time I went fly fishing but don't know if that will happen.

Silound · 12-21-2011, 04:38 PM

Yeah, mine got here, proved to be too good. Out of a bundle of 25, I gave away 3 and smoked 20...sitting on the last two for no good reason now.

Taki · 12-21-2011, 08:27 PM

I'm loving the live reviews...great stuff

12-23-2011, 02:12 PM

Thanks for the review; been really into the new Drew Estate cigars.
Can't wait to try this one.

04-17-2012, 12:14 AM

Sorry to revive an old post but what is ROTT? Also what is the dehumidification technique? Dry Boxing was mentioned as well? Thanks for your help, just trying to learn some new lingo and tricks.

emopunker2004 · 04-17-2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GruntmaN

Sorry to revive an old post but what is ROTT? Also what is the dehumidification technique? Dry Boxing was mentioned as well?

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bobarian · 04-17-2012, 12:31 AM

ROTT=Right Off The Truck

Dry boxing is done with a cigar that has a tight draw or is a bit squishy(wet). Just put it in an empty box for a day or two before smoking. This does not work in a high humidity climate.

04-17-2012, 01:32 AM

Thanks man, I appreciate it! I wouldn't have thought it would take a day or two to dehumidify... Why not just leave it out for a little while?

Zeuceone · 04-17-2012, 02:08 AM

You can also leave it out but some climate can dry it out to much.

Blak Smyth · 04-17-2012, 05:51 AM

I smoked a bait fish but thought the full size MUWAT had way better flavors.
It's a shame because I love the size of the Bait Fish. I have only smoked one of each, so it may not be fair to judge based on that, but I would not buy another Bait Fish.
Thanks for the review Adam!

OLS · 04-17-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by t.g

uber-scientific humidity reduction method (patent pending)..

do not taunt happy fun ball

OLS · 04-17-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GruntmaN

Why not just leave it out for a little while?

WATCH IT...you are dancing perilously close to trademark infringement, lol.

T.G · 04-17-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OLS

do not taunt happy fun ball

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Originally Posted by OLS

WATCH IT...you are dancing perilously close to trademark infringement, lol.

T.G · 04-17-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I smoked a bait fish but thought the full size MUWAT had way better flavors.
It's a shame because I love the size of the Bait Fish. I have only smoked one of each, so it may not be fair to judge based on that, but I would not buy another Bait Fish.
Thanks for the review Adam!

I feel that the MUWAT flavors are more balanced.

To me, the Bait Fish is one of those cigars that is a bit out of balance, kind of like the LP Dirty Rat, LFD Icepick, Camacho Corojo Machitos, J. Fuego Sangre del Toro Originals - all are good cigars, but all, to varying degrees, have some powerful in-your-face flavors that really dominate over the other flavors in the cigar. They all make it work and even use it as something that sets them apart, but they all have reduced their mass appeal by doing it.

the jiggler · 04-18-2012, 08:53 AM

Thanks for the review. As a fan of the MUWAT I am looking forward to trying one of these.

12-20-2011, 09:39 PM	#1
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Another live review... This time the Joya de Nicaragua / Subculture MUAWT Bait Fish. These cigars came in about a week ago, and I tried to smoke one ROTT, and the moment I lit it, I knew I screwed up. Bitter, muted, bad burn, all the characteristics of being too moist. But it still showed promise. So after leaving one out on the counter for a week, I'm back to bug you again. It's nice. Started off a bit rough, kind of a charcoal, but that was probably due to my uber-scientific humidity reduction method (patent pending). Woodsy, cinnamon, a bit of coffee notes. Not getting that hint of "classic JdN flavors" that I get out of the regular 60RG MUWAT. A bit of a tingle through a nose exhale from the pepper. More in a bit...

12-20-2011, 09:58 PM	#2
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish The body is picking up a bit. Heading now more towards the lighter end of full. Flavors are similar but getting a hint of sweetness that I would associate with some of the Jalapa grown tobaccos that JdN typically uses.

12-20-2011, 10:12 PM	#3
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Getting down to the end, overall, a very nice little cigar from JdN. Not very dynamic, but yet I'm finding myself burning my fingers trying to get more out of the nub before tossing it. It's no Punk but it's a good cigar I'd pick up again.

12-20-2011, 10:23 PM	#4
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Great review Adam I too enjoy the haphazard dryboxing method. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

12-21-2011, 06:11 AM	#5
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Trying very hard to keep my hands off the 5er I bought for a few weeks. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

12-21-2011, 04:38 PM	#7
Silound ex-CS Swamp Gorilla Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere in a swamp, south of sanity Posts: 802 Trading: (15)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Yeah, mine got here, proved to be too good. Out of a bundle of 25, I gave away 3 and smoked 20...sitting on the last two for no good reason now. __________________ Back in black, and better than ever! You can't keep a good gorilla down! LSU Geaux Tigers!

12-21-2011, 08:27 PM	#8
Taki Welcome to the Layer Cake Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Taki Location: The Creek Posts: 2,271 Trading: (38)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish I'm loving the live reviews...great stuff __________________

12-23-2011, 02:12 PM	#9
LigaPrivadaT84 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Thanks for the review; been really into the new Drew Estate cigars. Can't wait to try this one.

04-17-2012, 12:14 AM	#10
GruntmaN Guest Posts: n/a	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Sorry to revive an old post but what is ROTT? Also what is the dehumidification technique? Dry Boxing was mentioned as well? Thanks for your help, just trying to learn some new lingo and tricks. Last edited by GruntmaN; 04-17-2012 at 12:19 AM.

04-17-2012, 12:31 AM	#12
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish ROTT=Right Off The Truck Dry boxing is done with a cigar that has a tight draw or is a bit squishy(wet). Just put it in an empty box for a day or two before smoking. This does not work in a high humidity climate.

04-17-2012, 01:32 AM	#13
GruntmaN Guest Posts: n/a	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Thanks man, I appreciate it! I wouldn't have thought it would take a day or two to dehumidify... Why not just leave it out for a little while?

04-17-2012, 02:08 AM	#14
Zeuceone You're next Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: G Location: SoCal Posts: 1,737 Trading: (16)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish You can also leave it out but some climate can dry it out to much. __________________ It's just *THIS* this easy to help out the troops.

04-17-2012, 05:51 AM	#15
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish I smoked a bait fish but thought the full size MUWAT had way better flavors. It's a shame because I love the size of the Bait Fish. I have only smoked one of each, so it may not be fair to judge based on that, but I would not buy another Bait Fish. Thanks for the review Adam! __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

04-18-2012, 08:53 AM	#20
the jiggler ¡taste my pirate paddy! Join Date: Dec 2011 First Name: Craig Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 917 Trading: (24)	Re: JdN MUWAT Bait Fish Thanks for the review. As a fan of the MUWAT I am looking forward to trying one of these. __________________ Hecho exclusivamente para el jefe. Support the Troop Support Contest 2014!!!