DSLR Recommendations

MiamiE · 12-14-2011, 06:02 PM

I'm looking to upgrade from your regular digital camera to a DSLR model. Im new to DSLR's but i want something I can learn with and also grow into. I've been to Pittman Photo and looked at the Nikon D5100 and the Canon T3i. I like the feel of the Canon a lot and they're both similarly priced. I've thought about buying the body alone but looking around at lens recommendations and the Canon 18-55mm is highly recommended as a 'take everywhere' lens. What do you guys think?

emopunker2004 · 12-14-2011, 06:05 PM

I have a nikon d90 which is no longer made but are still avail. What is ur price range. The d5100 and 3100 should do good for a beginner to dslr. The 18-55mm is a good starting point. You may want the 55-200 or 55300 too for more reach

MiamiE · 12-14-2011, 06:08 PM

The D90 is a bit out of my price range. Barely though. To start I'd like the 18-55mm lens to get my bearings then the 55-200mm and up since I want to get into wildlife photography. Most of the game I've been trying to photog is in the 150-300 yard range.

Sauer Grapes · 12-14-2011, 06:15 PM

Any DSLR will leave plenty of room for you to grow as you learn. Canon and Nikon are both great companies, it mostly comes down to personal preference. Try them out at the store (but buy online to save money) and see what you prefer. Your next purchases will be lenses, and those are ultimately more important than the camera.

If you don't need video, look at the T2i (I don't think it does video, maybe it does?). The T2i is more than capable and you'll save $$$ over the T3i.

IndyRob · 12-14-2011, 06:26 PM

Can't really go wrong with either. I have first gen Canon Rebel that I love. I really need to diversify my lenses though.

xlc12rf · 12-14-2011, 07:37 PM

I've been giving thought to selling my 50D

MiamiE · 12-14-2011, 08:34 PM

Looks like the only difference in the T2i and T3i is the swivel LCD screen, and another flash feature. Maybe the T2i is the best bet for me and leaves me money for a better lens.

justonemorestick · 12-14-2011, 08:59 PM

I am a nikon fan but for the money either nikon or cannon will be your best bets they are the standard. There is a Nikon point and shoot that has interchangeable lenses however it is not going to be the same as a DSLR Also checkout BHphotovideo.com They have both new and used equipment at some very reasonable prices.

hotreds · 12-14-2011, 09:05 PM

You can start with a Rebel, but I'd go with a 30 or 40 or 50D. For wildlife you'll need a 100-400 lens, which with the 1.4x the Ds give you will give you a 130-520 range. The 18-55(25-77) will be a good closer in lens. The older D models can be had fairly cheaply on the bay- the 100-400 will run you close to a grand. Fredmirandadotcom is a good place to check out cameras and lenses.

larryinlc · 12-14-2011, 10:09 PM

All great companies, but I chose Pentax several years ago for my first dslr. I'm now on my third generation. Everything else being pretty equal, the Pentax as the nice ability of being able to use every Pentax mount lens made for the past 30 plus years. Heck, I use some old manual focus lenses from the 70's and they work perfectly. They can be had cheap too.

Larry

RGD. · 12-14-2011, 10:27 PM

Nikon - Canon - Canon - Nikon - either or. Whatever feels better in your hand. Personally I like Canon in the DSLR but always go with Nikon in the point and shoot.

Most people never use half of what their cameras will fully do so if you like the Canon T2 or 3, either one will serve you for years. You will of course learn that the glass is of high importance.

Buy online if you want to - but do so from a trusted dealer - i.e. BH Photo, etc. There are a lot of gray cameras out there that you won't get a warranty with or they will try to sell you extra stuff that should have been in the kit to start with (assuming you buy a kit). You may want to buy the body and then the glass - saving you from the kit glass that you may grow out of pretty quick.

Craigslist is used for more than axe murders - I have bought and sold equipment. Good thing about it is that you try the equipment before you buy. I picked up an $1800.00 lens for just under $900.00

Don't buy a lens without getting at least a good skylight for protection.

Get a good book. Scott Kelby is one of my favorite authors - informative, cuts through the bull crap and has a sense of humor.

There are a lot of really good photographers on CA so don't be afraid to ask about stuff later - learn from the mistakes of others.

Also since you are interested in shooting wildlife at distance with those long lens - start looking now at good tripods, poles, etc. And learn what your mirror lock up does.

Good luck with it all!

Ron

ApexAZ · 12-14-2011, 10:33 PM

I have an older Canon 20D and it still takes amazing pictures. When the fiancée and I have kids, I'll be picking up a 5D and some L primes and maybe a telephoto L. I kind of lost interest in the hobby a few years back, but still get requests to do photos of friends kids and stuff. I love Canon though. Also, +1 on the kelby books. Makes post processing much easier to deal with. I hate the post processing aspect more than anything, and really try to get the photo right out of the camera. Shoot in raw!

J0eybb · 12-14-2011, 10:46 PM

I have the T3i. I like it. I paid $675 for the t3i kit and the 55-250 and 75-300.

This was after the $400 rebate with printer offer. I then sold the printer for $200

12-15-2011, 08:22 AM

We picked up a T2i bundle on Black Friday, and we've been very happy with it so far. Got the 18-55 and the 75-200 lenses with it. The T3i was a few hundred more, and we didn't feel that the minor (to us) upgrades were worth it. Wasn't sure that we'd use the swiveling function on the LCD display all that much. Did a bunch of reading and had narrowed it down to Nikon vs. Canon. One of the thigns we heard is that the Canon lenses were "universal", where the Nikon ones were not. Never checked that out, and when we looked at them and held them, the Canon just felt like a better fit for us. Now we just need to play and get some good pictures with it.

MiamiE · 12-15-2011, 12:14 PM

I know you guys said to stay away from the kits but check out these two:

Canon T2i:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-Model-Ca...#ht_7001wt_994

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-T2i-Ca...item27bb585da3

http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Canon-EOS-Re...d=p3286.c0.m14

Nikon D5100:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKON-D5100-...#ht_1638wt_689

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKON-D5100-...#ht_1638wt_689

MrClean · 12-15-2011, 12:19 PM

I'm a Canon whore, they roped me in with a customer service experience I had with them a few years ago. That's one thing I will give Canon, they offer very good CS.
As far as the DSLR bodies go, the main difference between Nikon and Canon........Canon lenses are more expensive. Nikon as Image Stabilization built into the camera body, Canon puts it in their lenses.

I have the T2i and have been very satisfied with it. I recently rented a 24-105mm L lens. The L series lenses blew me away compared with a non L lens. That being said, most of those lenses start at over $1000. If you are planing on shooting wild life, you will need an expensive lens to get the up close shots and a big zoom lens needs IS to make it clear or a tripod.

I would give Nikon a hard look if it were me. Your lens cost in the long run would probably be less overall. That's not to say the Nikon lens is a lot less expensive, but having IS built into a camera body means less moving parts in the lens.

Like mentioned earlier, get a good book. I have the Canon T2i for Dummies book and it was a great place to start. You learn about the camera functions and what each setting will do and you get a general introduction into DSLR photography. A have a couple other books that have been helpful as well.

MrClean · 12-15-2011, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiE

I know you guys said to stay away from the kits but check out these two:

Canon T2i:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-Model-Ca...#ht_7001wt_994

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-T2i-Ca...item27bb585da3

http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Canon-EOS-Re...d=p3286.c0.m14

Nikon D5100:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKON-D5100-...#ht_1638wt_689

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKON-D5100-...#ht_1638wt_689

Be careful of the 75-300 lens without Image Stabilization, you will need a tripod to get a really clear picture with that lens if zoomed in all the way. It's a decent lens, but the lack of IS makes it difficult to get a clear shot (for me at least).

emopunker2004 · 12-15-2011, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrClean

Nikon as Image Stabilization built into the camera body, Canon puts it in their lenses.

Incorrect. Nikon VR is in the lens not the camera. Pentax IS is in the camera

ashtonlady · 12-15-2011, 01:06 PM

I love my canon 60d. I got it because it fit in my hand well. As far as lenses go what do you want to do with it?

ashtonlady · 12-15-2011, 01:07 PM

Also if you buy online be very careful. There are a lot of companies that look like you are getting a deal and they play bait and switch.

12-14-2011, 06:02 PM	#1
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	DSLR Recommendations I'm looking to upgrade from your regular digital camera to a DSLR model. Im new to DSLR's but i want something I can learn with and also grow into. I've been to Pittman Photo and looked at the Nikon D5100 and the Canon T3i. I like the feel of the Canon a lot and they're both similarly priced. I've thought about buying the body alone but looking around at lens recommendations and the Canon 18-55mm is highly recommended as a 'take everywhere' lens. What do you guys think?

12-14-2011, 06:05 PM	#2
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: DSLR Recommendations I have a nikon d90 which is no longer made but are still avail. What is ur price range. The d5100 and 3100 should do good for a beginner to dslr. The 18-55mm is a good starting point. You may want the 55-200 or 55300 too for more reach __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

12-14-2011, 06:08 PM	#3
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: DSLR Recommendations The D90 is a bit out of my price range. Barely though. To start I'd like the 18-55mm lens to get my bearings then the 55-200mm and up since I want to get into wildlife photography. Most of the game I've been trying to photog is in the 150-300 yard range.

12-14-2011, 06:15 PM	#4
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: DSLR Recommendations Any DSLR will leave plenty of room for you to grow as you learn. Canon and Nikon are both great companies, it mostly comes down to personal preference. Try them out at the store (but buy online to save money) and see what you prefer. Your next purchases will be lenses, and those are ultimately more important than the camera. If you don't need video, look at the T2i (I don't think it does video, maybe it does?). The T2i is more than capable and you'll save $$$ over the T3i.

12-14-2011, 06:26 PM	#5
IndyRob Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 136 Trading: (4)	Re: DSLR Recommendations Can't really go wrong with either. I have first gen Canon Rebel that I love. I really need to diversify my lenses though.

12-14-2011, 07:37 PM	#6
xlc12rf Still Watching My Back Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Jay Location: Connecticut Posts: 132 Trading: (3)	Re: DSLR Recommendations I've been giving thought to selling my 50D

12-14-2011, 08:34 PM	#7
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: DSLR Recommendations Looks like the only difference in the T2i and T3i is the swivel LCD screen, and another flash feature. Maybe the T2i is the best bet for me and leaves me money for a better lens.

12-14-2011, 08:59 PM	#8
justonemorestick Kat Krap Kontanment Media Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Warren Location: Las Cruces Posts: 292 Trading: (13)	Re: DSLR Recommendations I am a nikon fan but for the money either nikon or cannon will be your best bets they are the standard. There is a Nikon point and shoot that has interchangeable lenses however it is not going to be the same as a DSLR Also checkout BHphotovideo.com They have both new and used equipment at some very reasonable prices. __________________ This message was created entirely of recycled electrons, manufactured before 1899 in an effort to prevent global de-electrification.

12-14-2011, 09:05 PM	#9
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: DSLR Recommendations You can start with a Rebel, but I'd go with a 30 or 40 or 50D. For wildlife you'll need a 100-400 lens, which with the 1.4x the Ds give you will give you a 130-520 range. The 18-55(25-77) will be a good closer in lens. The older D models can be had fairly cheaply on the bay- the 100-400 will run you close to a grand. Fredmirandadotcom is a good place to check out cameras and lenses. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

12-14-2011, 10:09 PM	#10
larryinlc Angry Packer Fan Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Larry Location: Starvalley Posts: 325 Trading: (15)	Re: DSLR Recommendations All great companies, but I chose Pentax several years ago for my first dslr. I'm now on my third generation. Everything else being pretty equal, the Pentax as the nice ability of being able to use every Pentax mount lens made for the past 30 plus years. Heck, I use some old manual focus lenses from the 70's and they work perfectly. They can be had cheap too. Larry

12-14-2011, 10:27 PM	#11
RGD. God Like Status Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ron Location: Alexandria, Virginia Posts: 971 Trading: (1)	Re: DSLR Recommendations Nikon - Canon - Canon - Nikon - either or. Whatever feels better in your hand. Personally I like Canon in the DSLR but always go with Nikon in the point and shoot. Most people never use half of what their cameras will fully do so if you like the Canon T2 or 3, either one will serve you for years. You will of course learn that the glass is of high importance. Buy online if you want to - but do so from a trusted dealer - i.e. BH Photo, etc. There are a lot of gray cameras out there that you won't get a warranty with or they will try to sell you extra stuff that should have been in the kit to start with (assuming you buy a kit). You may want to buy the body and then the glass - saving you from the kit glass that you may grow out of pretty quick. Craigslist is used for more than axe murders - I have bought and sold equipment. Good thing about it is that you try the equipment before you buy. I picked up an $1800.00 lens for just under $900.00 Don't buy a lens without getting at least a good skylight for protection. Get a good book. Scott Kelby is one of my favorite authors - informative, cuts through the bull crap and has a sense of humor. There are a lot of really good photographers on CA so don't be afraid to ask about stuff later - learn from the mistakes of others. Also since you are interested in shooting wildlife at distance with those long lens - start looking now at good tripods, poles, etc. And learn what your mirror lock up does. Good luck with it all! Ron

12-14-2011, 10:33 PM	#12
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: DSLR Recommendations I have an older Canon 20D and it still takes amazing pictures. When the fiancée and I have kids, I'll be picking up a 5D and some L primes and maybe a telephoto L. I kind of lost interest in the hobby a few years back, but still get requests to do photos of friends kids and stuff. I love Canon though. Also, +1 on the kelby books. Makes post processing much easier to deal with. I hate the post processing aspect more than anything, and really try to get the photo right out of the camera. Shoot in raw!

12-14-2011, 10:46 PM	#13
J0eybb Feeling up at Home Join Date: Feb 2010 First Name: Joe Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,084 Trading: (5)	Re: DSLR Recommendations I have the T3i. I like it. I paid $675 for the t3i kit and the 55-250 and 75-300. This was after the $400 rebate with printer offer. I then sold the printer for $200 __________________ Live Chat http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=60202

12-15-2011, 08:22 AM	#14
Wanger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: DSLR Recommendations We picked up a T2i bundle on Black Friday, and we've been very happy with it so far. Got the 18-55 and the 75-200 lenses with it. The T3i was a few hundred more, and we didn't feel that the minor (to us) upgrades were worth it. Wasn't sure that we'd use the swiveling function on the LCD display all that much. Did a bunch of reading and had narrowed it down to Nikon vs. Canon. One of the thigns we heard is that the Canon lenses were "universal", where the Nikon ones were not. Never checked that out, and when we looked at them and held them, the Canon just felt like a better fit for us. Now we just need to play and get some good pictures with it.

12-15-2011, 12:14 PM	#15
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: DSLR Recommendations I know you guys said to stay away from the kits but check out these two: Canon T2i: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-Model-Ca...#ht_7001wt_994 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-T2i-Ca...item27bb585da3 http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Canon-EOS-Re...d=p3286.c0.m14 Nikon D5100: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKON-D5100-...#ht_1638wt_689 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKON-D5100-...#ht_1638wt_689

12-15-2011, 12:19 PM	#16
MrClean Bald Man Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Jeff Location: KC MO Posts: 2,229 Trading: (28)	Re: DSLR Recommendations I'm a Canon whore, they roped me in with a customer service experience I had with them a few years ago. That's one thing I will give Canon, they offer very good CS. As far as the DSLR bodies go, the main difference between Nikon and Canon........Canon lenses are more expensive. Nikon as Image Stabilization built into the camera body, Canon puts it in their lenses. I have the T2i and have been very satisfied with it. I recently rented a 24-105mm L lens. The L series lenses blew me away compared with a non L lens. That being said, most of those lenses start at over $1000. If you are planing on shooting wild life, you will need an expensive lens to get the up close shots and a big zoom lens needs IS to make it clear or a tripod. I would give Nikon a hard look if it were me. Your lens cost in the long run would probably be less overall. That's not to say the Nikon lens is a lot less expensive, but having IS built into a camera body means less moving parts in the lens. Like mentioned earlier, get a good book. I have the Canon T2i for Dummies book and it was a great place to start. You learn about the camera functions and what each setting will do and you get a general introduction into DSLR photography. A have a couple other books that have been helpful as well. __________________ http://jeffcarrollphotos.com Not a photographer, just a dude with a camera. Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

12-15-2011, 01:06 PM	#19
ashtonlady The Lady is Here Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Laura Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,090 Trading: (8)	Re: DSLR Recommendations I love my canon 60d. I got it because it fit in my hand well. As far as lenses go what do you want to do with it?

12-15-2011, 01:07 PM	#20
ashtonlady The Lady is Here Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Laura Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,090 Trading: (8)	Re: DSLR Recommendations Also if you buy online be very careful. There are a lot of companies that look like you are getting a deal and they play bait and switch.