Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move

Brutus2600 · 04-15-2011, 11:52 PM

So it appears that the real money side of online poker sites has finally been stopped by the government. Temporary or not, I can only imagine this is a huge blow to a lot of people who have lots of money in their account.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/16/te...3Z6R0njEzz7/5A

While the sites seem to be back up, and I can log in and join any game I want, I did get this notice when I logged into Pokerstars (see attachment). I'm guessing that you're just blocked from depositing any more money into your account and getting a disbursement check.

Whee · 04-16-2011, 12:17 AM

Check Absolute earlier and nothing changed....yet.
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bvilchez · 04-16-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by illinoishoosier

Check Absolute earlier and nothing changed....yet.
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It's changed now.

Lear31MX · 04-16-2011, 09:15 AM

That stinks! they locked me out of my funds some time ago due to Washington state laws.

markem · 04-16-2011, 09:18 AM

I saw a few articles on this yesterday. Here is a story on yahoo that was updated today, so may have more information.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110416/...er_prosecution

I don't do online gaming but feel for those who have been caught up in this one.

04-16-2011, 11:16 AM

This really sucks for US affiliates. It seems tilt is using www.fulltilpoker.co.uk as the main site and stars is using www.pokerstars.eu but the cashier is not available for usa players, i wonder if the visitors are being recorded...

shadow king · 04-16-2011, 11:05 PM

The government is going after them for 3 billion dollars. I can't see how this will actually get held up in court. This seems like grandstanding more than anything. I was reading where some players were totally distraut because this was basically their full time jobs, playing poker on the net. Some even quit their real jobs because the money was so good online. Kinda insane if you ask me....

Luckily I only had a small amount of coin in one of the sites. If it's gone for good it won't break me. I've lost far more to customs recently ha... It's really gotta suck for those who have a ton of money into them. One person I know (who plays internet poker for a living, while in college of course) has over 80K on one site alone. I can't imagine what their feeling at the moment.

chand · 04-17-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow king

The government is going after them for 3 billion dollars. I can't see how this will actually get held up in court. This seems like grandstanding more than anything. I was reading where some players were totally distraut because this was basically their full time jobs, playing poker on the net. Some even quit their real jobs because the money was so good online. Kinda insane if you ask me....

Luckily I only had a small amount of coin in one of the sites. If it's gone for good it won't break me. I've lost far more to customs recently ha... It's really gotta suck for those who have a ton of money into them. One person I know (who plays internet poker for a living, while in college of course) has over 80K on one site alone. I can't imagine what their feeling at the moment.

I don't think anyone is gonna slide on the money laundering nor should they. I don't feel bad for those who lost money in their accounts either because its not like they are innocent victims. They knowingly broke the law and now they have to face the consequences.

Ogre · 04-17-2011, 08:37 AM

What I dont understand or like is. The US government wants a cut of the money from sites that are set up in other countries.

Brutus2600 · 04-17-2011, 08:47 AM

Yeah...I mean, they forced the website out of the country with the law changes (I believe around 2006) when in reality they should've legalized it, figured out how to tax it, and get an insane amount of money from it.

While I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it's illegal (which I'm sure has nothing to do with rich lobbyist who have interests in B&M casinos or anything) I definitely don't agree with the money laundering that they supposedly did. I mean...this takes a legitimate business and makes it look more like a mafia back room gambling operation. I definitely didn't feel like I was breaking any laws playing online...but apparently I should've!

Cornrow_Wallis · 04-17-2011, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow king

Luckily I only had a small amount of coin in one of the sites. If it's gone for good it won't break me. I've lost far more to customs recently ha... It's really gotta suck for those who have a ton of money into them. One person I know (who plays internet poker for a living, while in college of course) has over 80K on one site alone. I can't imagine what their feeling at the moment.

Why would anyone leave that much money on the site? Seems like asking for trouble.

blugill · 04-17-2011, 09:10 AM

I would love it if they would allow this sites back on US shores and regulate them.
I want to easily and legally bet on sports games or play poker knowing that these sites are reliable and trustworthy.

Homebrewer · 04-17-2011, 11:39 AM

This is such bull____. I wanted to play online poker a couple of years ago and they wouldn't take a credit card. They wanted to draw from a bank account, so I just gave up. Still, there is lotto, Indian casinos and poker rooms everywhere. It's just so stupid. Doesn't the DOJ have anything better to do?

Brutus2600 · 09-20-2011, 01:22 PM

An interesting development in this whole mess

U.S. Alleges Full Tilt Poker Was Ponzi Scheme

357 · 09-20-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus2600

An interesting development in this whole mess

U.S. Alleges Full Tilt Poker Was Ponzi Scheme

WOW. I'm speechless.

elderboy02 · 09-20-2011, 03:04 PM

Wow, I am glad I didn't play there.

hammondc · 09-20-2011, 07:36 PM

Whoopsie!

04-16-2011, 12:17 AM	#2
Whee formerly illinoishoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Sean Location: Bishopville, SC Posts: 3,591 Trading: (17)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move Check Absolute earlier and nothing changed....yet. Posted via Mobile Device

04-16-2011, 09:15 AM	#4
Lear31MX Herf Crew of 2 Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Anthony Location: Pacific Northwest L.C.D.H. Posts: 451 Trading: (8)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move That stinks! they locked me out of my funds some time ago due to Washington state laws. __________________ Being still and doing nothing are two very different things.

04-16-2011, 09:18 AM	#5
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move I saw a few articles on this yesterday. Here is a story on yahoo that was updated today, so may have more information. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110416/...er_prosecution I don't do online gaming but feel for those who have been caught up in this one. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

04-16-2011, 11:16 AM	#6
stevejo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move This really sucks for US affiliates. It seems tilt is using www.fulltilpoker.co.uk as the main site and stars is using www.pokerstars.eu but the cashier is not available for usa players, i wonder if the visitors are being recorded...

04-16-2011, 11:05 PM	#7
shadow king Fresh outta Ad Seg Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Matt Location: Last house on the left Posts: 466 Trading: (19)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move The government is going after them for 3 billion dollars. I can't see how this will actually get held up in court. This seems like grandstanding more than anything. I was reading where some players were totally distraut because this was basically their full time jobs, playing poker on the net. Some even quit their real jobs because the money was so good online. Kinda insane if you ask me.... Luckily I only had a small amount of coin in one of the sites. If it's gone for good it won't break me. I've lost far more to customs recently ha... It's really gotta suck for those who have a ton of money into them. One person I know (who plays internet poker for a living, while in college of course) has over 80K on one site alone. I can't imagine what their feeling at the moment.

04-17-2011, 08:37 AM	#9
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move What I dont understand or like is. The US government wants a cut of the money from sites that are set up in other countries. __________________

04-17-2011, 08:47 AM	#10
Brutus2600 Your resident lancerHO Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Brian Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,063 Trading: (46)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move Yeah...I mean, they forced the website out of the country with the law changes (I believe around 2006) when in reality they should've legalized it, figured out how to tax it, and get an insane amount of money from it. While I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it's illegal (which I'm sure has nothing to do with rich lobbyist who have interests in B&M casinos or anything) I definitely don't agree with the money laundering that they supposedly did. I mean...this takes a legitimate business and makes it look more like a mafia back room gambling operation. I definitely didn't feel like I was breaking any laws playing online...but apparently I should've! __________________ www.halfwheel.com \| news+reviews You can also follow me on Twitter @brutus2600

04-17-2011, 09:10 AM	#12
blugill Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Enid, Oklahoma Posts: 867 Trading: (10)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move I would love it if they would allow this sites back on US shores and regulate them. I want to easily and legally bet on sports games or play poker knowing that these sites are reliable and trustworthy. __________________ My Blog

04-17-2011, 11:39 AM	#13
Homebrewer Love'm Tatuaje Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 158 Trading: (9)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move This is such bull____. I wanted to play online poker a couple of years ago and they wouldn't take a credit card. They wanted to draw from a bank account, so I just gave up. Still, there is lotto, Indian casinos and poker rooms everywhere. It's just so stupid. Doesn't the DOJ have anything better to do?

09-20-2011, 01:22 PM	#14
Brutus2600 Your resident lancerHO Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Brian Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,063 Trading: (46)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move An interesting development in this whole mess U.S. Alleges Full Tilt Poker Was Ponzi Scheme

09-20-2011, 03:04 PM	#16
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,509 Trading: (133)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move Wow, I am glad I didn't play there.

09-20-2011, 07:36 PM	#17
hammondc Moar Padrons! Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Chip Location: Senoia, GA Posts: 2,626 Trading: (17)	Re: Pokerstars/Full Tilt - FBI is finally making a move Whoopsie!