Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB

sikk50 · 11-04-2010, 08:07 PM

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfe.../show/id/15653

kelmac07 · 11-04-2010, 08:09 PM

WOW!!!

GTsetGO · 11-04-2010, 08:11 PM

damn. didn't know anything about this.

Doctorossi · 11-04-2010, 08:11 PM

Looks like somebody wants to own a brand or three of his own.

11-04-2010, 08:28 PM

Haha, I looked over at the signed Cain habano box and Cain F hat I have from this year and feel really lucky now

Sucks to hear, maybe he'll figure out some brands of his own

Skywalker · 11-04-2010, 08:31 PM

Sam will land on his feet!!!

Good luck Sam!!!

forgop · 11-04-2010, 09:21 PM

Interesting...it just so happens that nublive appears to be deactivated as well.

CigarNut · 11-04-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

WOW!!!

docdoty · 11-04-2010, 10:30 PM

I wonder what happened. He will def create his own brand

bscottskangum · 11-04-2010, 10:34 PM

I know that the article states that Oliva owns the Cain brand, but without Sam on board I wonder if they will go the way of the cloth bands

forgop · 11-04-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bscottskangum

I know that the article states that Oliva owns the Cain brand, but without Sam on board I wonder if they will go the way of the cloth bands

Why use cloth bands? It would have to add a higher cost and frankly, there's nothing gained in doing cloth bands.

bscottskangum · 11-04-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by forgop

Why use cloth bands? It would have to add a higher cost and frankly, there's nothing gained in doing cloth bands.

Missed my point....the discontinued Oliva cloth band cigars...wondering if they will end up ceasing production without Sam a part of the company

sikk50 · 11-04-2010, 10:40 PM

I thought they were already looking at eliminating the Cain line anyway?

I could be way off IIRC someone at a local b and m mentioned that.

forgop · 11-04-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bscottskangum

Missed my point....the discontinued Oliva cloth band cigars...wondering if they will end up ceasing production without Sam a part of the company

Gotcha. I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I wouldn't think they'd eliminate the Cains. Seems like the reviews have always been pretty good on them. Nubs maybe, but not the Cains.

bscottskangum · 11-04-2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by forgop

Gotcha. I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I wouldn't think they'd eliminate the Cains. Seems like the reviews have always been pretty good on them. Nubs maybe, but not the Cains.

You wouldn't think, but like I said they might end up going away like the cloth bands did. I'm sure alot goes into whether or not a cigars production is continued, I'll just be curious to see if the removal of Sam from the equation will tip the scales. Might end up with a blend change or rebranding but it will be interesting to see how everything works out.

BengalMan · 11-04-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bscottskangum

Missed my point....the discontinued Oliva cloth band cigars...wondering if they will end up ceasing production without Sam a part of the company

Production is full steam ahead.

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Originally Posted by sikk50

I thought they were already looking at eliminating the Cain line anyway?

I could be way off IIRC someone at a local b and m mentioned that.

That couldn't be farther from the truth. Cain is highly successful and continues to grow and expand in 2011. Nub has been a hit since the day it was released and it remains so to this day.

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Originally Posted by bscottskangum

You wouldn't think, but like I said they might end up going away like the cloth bands did. I'm sure alot goes into whether or not a cigars production is continued, I'll just be curious to see if the removal of Sam from the equation will tip the scales. Might end up with a blend change or rebranding but it will be interesting to see how everything works out.

There will be no blend changing and no re-branding of any of the lines. Cain and Nub have always been produced and owned by Oliva. Nothing has changed on that side of things.

11-04-2010, 11:23 PM

Good to know my precious Cain Maduros won't change

I wish my B&M had them when I bought the box of habanos at the Cain tour.

forgop · 11-04-2010, 11:56 PM

Am I reading this right? Oliva created this Studio Tobac to be a spinoff of sorts and the stage is set for Sam to "part ways" with Oliva, but the door appears to be wide open for his creations there. In other words, let's create a lot of buzz about what's going on for all the talk so we can announce his new position all while under the Oliva umbrella. Am I way out in left field with this?

nick2021 · 11-05-2010, 12:43 AM

surprising news!

icehog3 · 11-05-2010, 01:23 AM

Between this and Glorbal Warming, I don't know how I will sleep tonight.

11-04-2010, 08:07 PM	#1
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfe.../show/id/15653 __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

11-04-2010, 08:09 PM	#2
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB WOW!!! __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

11-04-2010, 08:11 PM	#3
GTsetGO those were the droids Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Rob Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,686 Trading: (5)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB damn. didn't know anything about this. __________________ Modded Mustangs

11-04-2010, 08:11 PM	#4
Doctorossi Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 1,684 Trading: (8)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB Looks like somebody wants to own a brand or three of his own. __________________ Marvin Shanken is a terrific guy... for me to poop on!

11-04-2010, 08:28 PM	#5
gijoey959 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB Haha, I looked over at the signed Cain habano box and Cain F hat I have from this year and feel really lucky now Sucks to hear, maybe he'll figure out some brands of his own

11-04-2010, 08:31 PM	#6
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB Sam will land on his feet!!! Good luck Sam!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

11-04-2010, 09:21 PM	#7
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB Interesting...it just so happens that nublive appears to be deactivated as well.

11-04-2010, 10:30 PM	#9
docdoty Cigars & Guns...what else Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Justin Location: Homer, mi Posts: 429 Trading: (8)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB I wonder what happened. He will def create his own brand __________________ Enjoy what you smoke, and Smoke what you enjoy

11-04-2010, 10:34 PM	#10
bscottskangum Oh yeah, I'm awesome! Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Barry Location: Hampton, VA Posts: 681 Trading: (11)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB I know that the article states that Oliva owns the Cain brand, but without Sam on board I wonder if they will go the way of the cloth bands

11-04-2010, 10:40 PM	#13
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB I thought they were already looking at eliminating the Cain line anyway? I could be way off IIRC someone at a local b and m mentioned that. __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

11-04-2010, 11:23 PM	#17
gijoey959 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB Good to know my precious Cain Maduros won't change I wish my B&M had them when I bought the box of habanos at the Cain tour.

11-04-2010, 11:56 PM	#18
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB Am I reading this right? Oliva created this Studio Tobac to be a spinoff of sorts and the stage is set for Sam to "part ways" with Oliva, but the door appears to be wide open for his creations there. In other words, let's create a lot of buzz about what's going on for all the talk so we can announce his new position all while under the Oliva umbrella. Am I way out in left field with this?

11-05-2010, 12:43 AM	#19
nick2021 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 436 Trading: (17)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB surprising news! __________________ It's one thing to be stupid, it's dangerous for a stupid person to think he's smart!

11-05-2010, 01:23 AM	#20
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,295 Trading: (60)	Re: Sam To Leave Oliva and NUB Between this and Glorbal Warming, I don't know how I will sleep tonight. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!