The biggest waste of money cigar for 2009

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Salvelinus

Also didn't like the RP sungrown

You are not alone.

[Salvelinus]

Nice to hear. I read reviews of it after I tossed the second one and thought there might be something wrong with me.

[Smokin Gator]

Originally Posted by Salvelinus

Also didn't like the RP sungrown

I don't like all of the RP Sungrowns but the petite corona is one of my favorites!!

[akumushi]

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

I don't like all of the RP Sungrowns but the petite corona is one of my favorites!!

I had one of the lanceros that was pretty good.

[bigheadmark]

alright, here it goes...
I purchased like 12 Pinar Del Rios from FSS over two months ago...they came in a sampler...there were exclusivos, Havana and Oscuro..
They were soaking wet when i got them, so I dry boxed for a few days, and smoked a few..most of which I ended up being tossed after less than an inch into the cigar..
So, I thought, "maybe they're still too wet" so i put the remainder in my humidor and let them sit for a couple months at 65% RH..
I tried smoking a Havana, actually two of them, and I swear, I thought that maybe the wrappers and binders were treated with a flame retardant!!
they would not burn! I had to touch them up about every two minutes...
The aroma was good, but they wouldn't burn...!!!
the oscuro had the same problems.
the exclusivo did not have the burn issues, but I rate that cigar as mediocre at best.

[Emjaysmash]

Cain Maduro, Consuegra #9

[TheGentleman]

I had the same problem with the Pinars...very odd. They just wouldn't stay lit. My biggest disappointment was the Drac, however, I look forward to revisiting it next year.

[kelmac07]

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

Cain Maduro, Consuegra #9

WOW MJ...I really dig the Cain Maduros.

[ProBe]

Originally Posted by elderboy02

Opus X

I 2nd that!!

[Mr.Erskine]

I was, honestly, unimpressed by the Liga Privada No. 9.. I know that I am in a minority, here... but we all like something different

[gbum]

nub connie just so so... but the habano is bluekh!.. give a try few times and end up with sour face... worst because i need to pay more for shipping than the cigar price itself...

[G G]

Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

I don't like all of the RP Sungrowns but the petite corona is one of my favorites!!

Love me some RP Sungrowns.

[issues]

Everything I had from Alec Bradley (Tempus, FB, Maxx) except for the Tempus Magistri Maduro.

Also the LGC Series R #7 Maduro was one of only 3 cigars I have ever put down early.

The other 2 were not smoked in 2009 so I will not include them.

Originally Posted by bigheadmark

alright, here it goes...
I purchased like 12 Pinar Del Rios from FSS over two months ago...they came in a sampler...there were exclusivos, Havana and Oscuro..
They were soaking wet when i got them, so I dry boxed for a few days, and smoked a few..most of which I ended up being tossed after less than an inch into the cigar..
So, I thought, "maybe they're still too wet" so i put the remainder in my humidor and let them sit for a couple months at 65% RH..
I tried smoking a Havana, actually two of them, and I swear, I thought that maybe the wrappers and binders were treated with a flame retardant!!
they would not burn! I had to touch them up about every two minutes...
The aroma was good, but they wouldn't burn...!!!
the oscuro had the same problems.
the exclusivo did not have the burn issues, but I rate that cigar as mediocre at best.

Haha, sounds like my issue too... Bought two fivers after hearing so much about them and the price was great at Famous... Had a great taste, just couldn't get the dumb wrapper to agree with me. Dryboxed one for a few days and it was a bit better, but still annoying. Months later after sitting, they're smoking ok. Got one left, but doubt I'll revisit once it is gone. Not a bad smoke at all if you can get it working right, though can't tell you when that will be!

Hmmm.

This will seem odd, because I gave this cigar a very high rating, like 9.3 if I remember.

However I would say the honor goes to the Cohiba Gran Reserva. I just don't get a $100 fresh cigar when I can get an aged OR Sig VI (assuming you can find them) or an aged Sig VI from the Cohiba X humi for a much much much cheaper price and be essentially smoking the same thing.

[mithrilG60]

Originally Posted by Addiction

I just don't get a $100 fresh cigar when I can get an aged OR Sig VI (assuming you can find them) or an aged Sig VI from the Cohiba X humi for a much much much cheaper price and be essentially smoking the same thing.

Exclusivity and marketing to snob appeal, pure and simple. It's the same concept that drives super-car manufacturer's to produce hyper-car versions of their standard lines. A Reventon is just a Murciélago with a body kit, flat paint job and a trick digital dash yet Lamborghini priced it 4.5 times higher because of the extremely limited production.

There are a lot of people that buy into the marketing hype that surrounds brands like Cohiba, Opus X, Macallan, etc and will pay prices that are exorbitant compared to those products actual value just to have them. The Grand Reserva just takes it to a whole new level for Habanos SA. Interestingly enough, with the one exception of the 2003 LE Cohiba DC, I have yet to have one of these over-hyped products that even comes close to living up to it's billing.

Originally Posted by mithrilG60

......There are a lot of people that buy into the marketing hype that surrounds brands like Cohiba, Opus X, Macallan, etc and will pay prices that are exorbitant compared to those products actual value just to have them. The Grand Reserva just takes it to a whole new level for Habanos SA. Interestingly enough, with the one exception of the 2003 LE Cohiba DC, I have yet to have one of these over-hyped products that even comes close to living up to it's billing.

Actually I've had several of those things i think are worth it. I love all Cohibas and would say that certianly the Cohiba Middies, Reservas, DCs, Sublimes and Sublimes Extras are all worth the mark up. I'd even say that the Gran Reserva is worth some markup, just not the markup they are asking.

[mithrilG60]

Fair enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that their bad smokes (Cohiba as a brand, not specifically the Grand Reserva), far from it. Just that in my experience I've found that they just aren't the be-all and end-all of cigars that popular culture holds them to be and just can't hold up to the hype. There are several cigars that I'd choose every time over every Cohiba except the 2003 DC LE, that's the great thing about personal tastes... they're different for everyone

Also as far as Opus X, I normally hate them all but the Lost City is an outstanding cigar!

And Macallan is pretty damn good scotch, tho I personally prefer JW Blue.

[issues]

Originally Posted by mithrilG60

that's the great thing about personal tastes... they're different for everyone

That is something I love about this site!

I have yet to see anyone give another person grief for enjoying a cigar they can't stand, unlike some other sites I have lurked around.

There are cigars in this thread that people really dislike and I love. I'm sure it goes both ways...

Open minds go a long way to making a site comfortable and enjoyable for everyone.