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[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by ZJB

As far as better end of exchanges Rodgers was doing well and lost.

I would have to disagree with you here. I've watched this fight about a dozen times and Fedor gave him rubber legs several times and of course, the big KO. Rodgers never phased Fedor and only landed about 7 clean shots and half of those were on the ground. That first jab Rogers landed looked more than it was because it opened a previous cut Fedor sustained while sparring with his brother during training a month ago.

I think Lesnar would try to take him to the ground. That is where he feels most comfortable being a wresting champion. Every fighter that Lesnar has fought has had a superior ground game and he took them down and smothered them. Granted, I think Fedor would be just fine if that happened but I don't see Lesnar trying to stand with him. I do agree with Dustin, Fedor is just on a different level.....than everyone.

Don't forget your talking about a gut with virtually no experience doing "well" against the "Last Emperor".

All I'm saying is put him in there against a top 5 HW that's all.

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by ZJB

Don't forget your talking about a gut with virtually no experience doing "well" against the "Last Emperor".

All I'm saying is put him in there against a top 5 HW that's all.

If you call being being knocked and thrown around, getting 3 sub attempts and two takedowns on him and being KO'd "well", ok. Rogers did have good control against the fence but that's it.

Fedor dominated him and has nothing to prove to anyone. At the time they fought both Arlovski and Big Timmy were top 5.

Fedor would have beat my ass too.
Brett was changing tires less than a year ago he did well all things considered.

Hopefully we see him get in there with a top 5 guy before he retires.

[zitro_joe]

Originally Posted by ZJB

Don't forget your talking about a gut with virtually no experience doing "well" against the "Last Emperor".

All I'm saying is put him in there against a top 5 HW that's all.

Top 5? Oh, no! Brett Rogers looked great compared to....Brett Rogers from a few months ago. What makes him dangerous is his puching power, thats all he has. It humurous that Fedor was able to out wrestle him and throw him around.

He showed vast improvement. I definately think if he stays training full time he will be top 10 soon. They called out Overeem, I think they may be bitting off a little more than he can chew, again. But Alistair has disapointed in the past, so...

Here's a questions for you...

Fedor is 33. How much longer do you think he will keep fighting?

[NCRadioMan]

Top 15 as of October:

1 Fedor Emelianenko
2 Brock Lesnar
3 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
4 Frank Mir
5 Josh Barnett
6 Shane Carwin
7 Junior dos Santos
8 Brett Rogers
9 Randy Couture
10 Andrei Arlovski
11 Alistair Overeem
11 Cain Velasquez
13 Fabricio Werdum
14 Jeff Monson
15 Gabriel Gonzaga

Mir is a joke being that high, imo. Fedor dominated NOG and was supposed to fight Barnett until Barnett got caught juicing. He is going to face Werdum next. If he wins, he will fight Overeem for the title. That will be the 3 fights on his current contract. After that, who knows. Maybe Dana will get his head out of his arse and promote the biggest fight in MMA history. I kinda doubt it.

If Rogers thinks he is going to get Overeem next, he is dreaming. You don't lose and get a shot at the Champ.

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by kayaker

Here's a questions for you...

Fedor is 33. How much longer do you think he will keep fighting?

That's a great question. He has said he will fight till he no longer enjoys the competition. Who knows? Whenever that is, I hope he doesn't end up like CroCop.

[zitro_joe]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

If Rogers thinks he is going to get Overeem next, he is dreaming. You don't lose and get a shot at the Champ.

HA! I know. Did you listen to that post fight blah, blah, blah he puked? " If he (Fedor) wants a rematch, I'll give it to him."

WHAT? Brett - Homie- you lost. Not Fedor.

Originally Posted by kayaker

Here's a questions for you...

Fedor is 33. How much longer do you think he will keep fighting?

Randy's 46 so who knows.

Nice avatar BTW I just saw part 2.

Originally Posted by ZJB

Randy's 46 so who knows.

Nice avatar BTW I just saw part 2.

Cool. I can't wait to see it. I'm almost afraid to ask but...how did it compare to the first one?

[Santesyu]

I think randy can handle fedor he has alot of experience, he even controlled brock who is much bigger then him, iam pretty sure he can control fedor aswell.

If Fedor fought Randy it would be a massacre and detrimental to Randy 's health. I don't want to see it.

Originally Posted by Steelergar

If Fedor fought Randy it would be a massacre and detrimental to Randy 's health. I don't want to see it.

Big time. The beating Nog put on him was bad enough and I think Fedor would do more damage. Unless he finished him off quickly.

Looking forward to see Randy put the beating on Vera though.

Randy's got the skill but is too small (220) too hang with HW's, not enough punching power on the big guys. We'll see how he does back at LHW.

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Maybe Dana will get his head out of his arse and promote the biggest fight in MMA history.

You should read this article. While Dana may be boneheaded on some things, giving up 50% stake in a company is not an option.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by wayner123

You should read this article. While Dana may be boneheaded on some things, giving up 50% stake in a company is not an option.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

Yep, we talked about this a dozen or so pages ago. It's not 50% of the company but 50% of the revenue from the ppv's. Don't believe anything Kevin Iole writes. He prints tons of false rumors and false "news" and nobody in the online mma community gives him the time of day.

Fedor vs Rogers peaks at 5.46 mil views!

The main event of CBS SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS featuring Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brett Rogers reached 5.46 million viewers while drawing impressive young adult and male demographic ratings, according to Nielsen live plus same day ratings from 11:00-11:15 PM on Saturday, Nov. 7.

The demographic ratings include a 3.5/10 in men 25-54, 3.3/11 in men 18-49 and 3.1/12 in men 18-34, 2.5/7 rating in adults 25-54, 2.4/8 in adults 18-49 and 2.4/09 in adults 18-34.

For the entire broadcast, CBS SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS (S) (9:00-114PM) averaged 4.04m viewers, winning its time period among adults 18-34 and men 18-34, and delivering ratings significantly higher than the Network’s season to date averages in the time period among young adult and male demos.

The ratings include a 1.8/06 in adults 18-49, 1.8/07 in adults 18-34, 2.6/07 in men 25-54, 2.5/08 in men 18-49 and 2.3/09 in men 18-34.

Compared to CBS’s 9:00-11:00PM season-to-date averages, CBS SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS was up +38% in adults 18-49 (from 1.3/04), +125% in adults 18-34 (from 0.8/03), +117% in men 25-54 (from 1.2/03), +178% in men 18-49 (from 0.9/03) and +283% in men 18-34 (from 0.6/02).

CBS’s SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS outrated ABC’s regionalized primetime college football in men 18-34 (2.3/09 vs. 1.9/07) and adults 18-34 (1.8/07 vs. 1.5/06) and ESPN’s Florida State vs. Clemson primetime game in men 18-34 (2.3/09 vs. 0.7/03) and adults 18-34 (1.8/07 vs. 0.5/02). CBS also topped ESPN2’s primetime Vanderbilt vs. Florida game in men 18-34 (2.3/09 vs. 1.1/04) and adults 18-34 (1.8/07 vs. 0.9/04).

The audience composition for CBS SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS was 31% adults 18-34 and the median age for the broadcast was 41.4.

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Fedor vs Rogers 9th Most Watched Fight In MMA History

Although this weekend’s “Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers” card was star-studded, America showed there was only one star worth watching as CBS received a huge spike just before Fedor Emelianenko took the cage in his U.S. primetime debut.

According to CBS, between at 11PM and 11:15PM, 5.46 million viewers tuned in to watch the Russian TKO the previously undefeated Brett Rogers in the 2ndRound of their contest.

That number is a significant increase from the 4.01 million viewers that watched during the 10:30 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. timeslot leading-in.

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Fedor Emelianenko Injures Hand In Victory

Fedor Emelianenko injured his left hand during Saturday night’s bout with Brett Rogers. The Russian successfully made his U.S. primetime debut on “Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers,” but it appears to have come at a slight price.

A source close to Team Fedor told the website that the first examination could not determine if Emelianenko had broken bones in his left hand, but he intends to visit a specialist to further assess the damage.

Emelianenko extended his nearly nine-year winning streak last night by defeating Rogers inside the Sears Centre Arena in Hoffman Estates, Illinois. MMA’s Terminator caught the former Sam’s Club employee with a vicious right, sending Rogers to the canvas 1:48 into the second round.

After briefly attending a post-fight press conference, a banged-up Emelianenko was sent to a local hospital. He later returned with his left arm in a soft cast that went up to his elbow area.

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Fedor's only out 4-6 weeks!

Fedor Emelianenko’s injuries may not keep the top-ranked fighter on the sidelines for as long as initially expected.

The Russian heavyweight underwent a successful surgery Tuesday in Los Angeles to correct a dislocated thumb in his left hand and will have a half cast removed in 4-6 weeks, Emelianenko and his M-1 Global management team told Sherdog.com during an exclusive video interview conducted only a few hours following the procedure.

Emelianenko, 33, was initially thought to have sustained tendon or ligament damage in his left thumb during his second-round TKO victory over Brett Rogers at Strikeforce/M-1 Global “Fedor vs. Rogers” at the Sears Centre Arena in Hoffman Estates, Ill. The potentially serious injury could have called for complicated surgery and might have kept the world’s No. 1 heavyweight out of training for an estimated 4-6 months.

Instead, the fighter’s reps said two pins were placed in Emelianenko’s hand to correct the dislocation, and that the bone had not fractured nor broken through the skin as is possible with this type of injury. The 15-minute procedure was performed under general anesthesia at a Santa Monica hospital, said M-1 Global officials.

In the video interview, which will premiere Wednesday, Emelianenko said he believes he hurt his hand early in the first round, but has experienced minimum discomfort from it since.

Emelianenko also said that his nose was not fractured, as was earlier suspected, following Roger’s first punch -- a straight left that cut the bridge of the Russian’s nose and caused steady bleeding throughout the seven-minute bout. Emelianenko, who had no substantial bruising or discoloring around his nose or eyes, said he’d cut the same area sparring with his brother Aleksander over the summer in preparation for his cancelled bout with Josh Barnett for Affliction “Trilogy” on Aug. 1.

Emelianenko said he planned to return to training, sans striking, upon his return to Russia later this week. M-1 officials said Emelianenko could headline his second co-promoted Strikeforce card in the first quarter of 2010

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yep, we talked about this a dozen or so pages ago. It's not 50% of the company but 50% of the revenue from the ppv's.

This may have been beat to death (I haven't read the earlier discussion), but even 50% from PPV's that Fedor is featured in seems like a big taking. I'd love to see Fedor in the UFC but can we reasonably expect the UFC to accept that deal.

Also, I know Dana mouths off a lot about this and other deals, but does he make those decisions unilaterally, without input from the Fertitta bros.?

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by kayaker

This may have been beat to death (I haven't read the earlier discussion), but even 50% from PPV's that Fedor is featured in seems like a big taking. I'd love to see Fedor in the UFC but can we reasonably expect the UFC to accept that deal.

Also, I know Dana mouths off a lot about this and other deals, but does he make those decisions unilaterally, without input from the Fertitta bros.?

That was the rumor that they wanted 50% but Fedor's people have said that was just a starting point for negotiations. Dana said that they were firm on 50%. Who knows who to believe? If Dana is true to what he always says, that the UFC gives the people the fights they want, he would get it done...somehow. The UFC (Dana) thinks there is no competition compared to them and they should dictate terms at all times. He needs to learn how to give in a little to co-promote what would be the biggest fight in MMA history. IMO.

Dana is a minority owner but runs the organization. The Fertitta's trust Dana but ultimately, they have final say.

Dana is a goof ball. In one sentence he will say that Fedor is over-rated and nobody wants to see him fight. Then will turn around and say that they really want him in the UFC. He talks out of both sides of his mouth and he does that alot and usually starts berating people and calling names when he when he doesn't get his way. I respect what he and UFC have done but in spite of what he thinks, they are not the only game in town.

[dannysguitar]

Originally Posted by kayaker

This may have been beat to death (I haven't read the earlier discussion), but even 50% from PPV's that Fedor is featured in seems like a big taking. I'd love to see Fedor in the UFC but can we reasonably expect the UFC to accept that deal.

Also, I know Dana mouths off a lot about this and other deals, but does he make those decisions unilaterally, without input from the Fertitta bros.?

Don't some boxers split 50/50 ppv revenue?