Fourth Annual Fantasy Football for Stakes and the Troops

[Mattso3000]

Mark has the pass and his puts and takes figured out but no internet until later today.

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by shilala

Hey Cole, you're on for that 10 smokes bet.

Sweet! Get ready to lose!

Originally Posted by Mattso3000

Mark has the pass and his puts and takes figured out but no internet until later today.

Awesome, keep it moving...I want it back already!

[mkarnold1]

Hey guys, let me know if this works and I can send it on its way!
Puts:

12 gauge Shotgun shell, Liga 9 robusto, MF le bijou, '98 Party de Party, '06 Anejo
Takes:

Oliva O bold, Zombie, long skinny LGC

[chaase321]

Hell yeah that works Mark! Looks good bro.

[mkarnold1]

Thanks Cole. Anyone else want to weigh in before I ship it off? I will mail on Friday, as I work through the P.O. hours tomorrow.

[TJarv]

Looks great to me Mark

[Malakai]

Yep...send them on...to me!!

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by Mattso3000

Jerrod...how about a 5er for the troops on the week one matchup?

Hear any replies on this yet??

[chaase321]

Well...Kick off was last night guys, hopefully you started everyone in the Denver offense

With that said...the entries were supposed to be received by then...its fin though, I can let it slide a few days, just the people below who haven't turned in their entries, or otherwise contacted me before, please shoot me a PM just to let me know what's going on...otherwise, I will hand deliver the pass to you along with a and a ok

As of yesterday's mail:

I have received:
Mine (Entry and Troops)
Scott Shilala (Entry and Troops)
Scott Sizer (Entry and Troops)
Mark (Entry and Troops)
Travis (Entry and Troops)
Matt (troops only)
Tony (Entry and Troops)
John (Entry and Troops)

Leaves to be paid yet:
Jarrod
Matt (Entry still owed)
Mike (arrangements made)

Good luck to all the betters! Bet big, bet often, and bet stupidly...it gives the troops more sticks!

[chaase321]

By my calculations and everyone sending anywhere from 2 to 125 extra sticks with their entries...we have raised:


OVER 400 STICKS FOR THE TROOPS!!!!

Awesome job guys! We have only gotten through 1 night of football so far, I'm proud of this league!!!

Make sure you bet through all those sticks you sent in (and more hopefully ). Matt and I will keep a running total on the thread for you all so you know where you stand with bets and what has been paid/is owed for the troops.

Keep it up CA FFL'ers!

[BeerAdvocate]

Well I started the season playing against Peyton Manning last night. Lucky Me!!!!

[sofaman]

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate

Well I started the season playing against Peyton Manning last night. Lucky Me!!!!

Its a good thing the scoring had changed this year or he would have put up about 150 pts

[Malakai]

Originally Posted by sofaman

Its a good thing the scoring had changed this year or he would have put up about 150 pts

That's too bad lol!!

[mkarnold1]

The pass went out on its way to sunny CA this afternoon. Have fun with it!

[BeerAdvocate]

I escaped Peyton Mannings wrath!

[Mattso3000]

Soo....what was different about the touchdown that Victor Cruz just caught and the Calvin Johnson incompletion earlier today??? Just thought that, even though it helped my fantasy team and the Vikings, it was a terrible call. The rule makes sense that you have to control the ball to the ground on a touchdown catch...but if you catch the ball then dive towards the end zone and cross the plane that's a touchdown. Rant complete.

[Malakai]

It started out so good on Thursday and went downhill fast after that!

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Mattso3000

Soo....what was different about the touchdown that Victor Cruz just caught and the Calvin Johnson incompletion earlier today??? Just thought that, even though it helped my fantasy team and the Vikings, it was a terrible call. The rule makes sense that you have to control the ball to the ground on a touchdown catch...but if you catch the ball then dive towards the end zone and cross the plane that's a touchdown. Rant complete.

I saw the Cruz catch. I just hunted up the Megatron catch.
Cruz had full control of the ball, made a "football move", crossed the plane, and the ground kicked the ball out.
Since he had control the whole time, it was a td when he broke the plane.
Now, in the Calvin video, they said he didn't have control. If you don't have control all the way to the ground, and ALSO retain control once you hit the ground, it's not a td.
At full speed it sure looked like Megatron had all kinds of control, but I'm looking at a grainy video with no replay.
The issue between the two plays is control and what constitutes it.
Cruz definitely had control, Megatron supposedly didn't.

Now, there's sort of a second part to this rule. Or maybe another way of looking at part of it.
A wide receiver must complete the catch after breaking the goal line for a touchdown to count, but a running back doesn't have to complete the run for it to count as a score. He just needs to break the plane.
That goes a step further.
Once a WR has made the catch in the field of play, he's now a runner, and for all intents and purposes (regarding this rule), a running back.
Same thing here. Cruz had control in the field of play, turned into a runner, crossed the plane, play done, td. The ground doesn't come in play.
Calvin just plain didn't have control all the way to and including the ground (again, supposedly cause I can't see it), so his catch isn't affected by this part of the rule at all. It's just an incomplete pass.

Lots of words for an incomplete pass, eh?
Hope that helps, Matt!!!

[mkarnold1]

Originally Posted by shilala

I saw the Cruz catch. I just hunted up the Megatron catch.
Cruz had full control of the ball, made a "football move", crossed the plane, and the ground kicked the ball out.
Since he had control the whole time, it was a td when he broke the plane.
Now, in the Calvin video, they said he didn't have control. If you don't have control all the way to the ground, and ALSO retain control once you hit the ground, it's not a td.
At full speed it sure looked like Megatron had all kinds of control, but I'm looking at a grainy video with no replay.
The issue between the two plays is control and what constitutes it.
Cruz definitely had control, Megatron supposedly didn't.

Now, there's sort of a second part to this rule. Or maybe another way of looking at part of it.
A wide receiver must complete the catch after breaking the goal line for a touchdown to count, but a running back doesn't have to complete the run for it to count as a score. He just needs to break the plane.
That goes a step further.
Once a WR has made the catch in the field of play, he's now a runner, and for all intents and purposes (regarding this rule), a running back.
Same thing here. Cruz had control in the field of play, turned into a runner, crossed the plane, play done, td. The ground doesn't come in play.
Calvin just plain didn't have control all the way to and including the ground (again, supposedly cause I can't see it), so his catch isn't affected by this part of the rule at all. It's just an incomplete pass.

Lots of words for an incomplete pass, eh?
Hope that helps, Matt!!!

I agree with Matt on this one. Watching it in slow mo, Calvin caught the ball with both hands and dove for the end zone. Pretty much exactly the same as Cruz. The ball bobbled a bit upon touching the ground (after crossing the goal line), but remained in his possession, whereas Cruz completely lost possession of the ball upon contact with ground. As a Vikes fan, I was happy to accept it as an incomplete pass at the time. As a fan of football in general, it was a terrible call. Especially given that the same exact situation was called the opposite way later in the day.

[Mattso3000]

Week 1 bet results:
Mike vs. Matt- Mike owes 5
Mike vs. Mark- Mike owes 5
Mike vs. Shilala- Mike owes 5
Mike vs. Scott- Mike owes 5
Mike vs. Cole- Cole owes 5
Mark vs. Tony- Mark owes 5
Cole vs. Shilala- Cole owes 10

At final tally for week one, we have Mike paying up 20 troop stick, Cole paying 15, and Mark paying 5.

Let me know if I'm missing anything!