How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post - Page 12

06-16-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Sorry bro but that makes no sense to me. Moisture is much higher in the cigars than in a bag you just put them in. That tiny, tiny amount of room temp air isn't going to harm anything. Been freezing for almost 6 years and never had any problems. It's not rocket science. Double bag the cigars, leave in freezer, take cigars out and let them acclimate to room temp then in the humidor.

Lol, go ahead and disregard my rambling.

jjirons69 · 06-16-2011, 07:35 PM

Froze many a box, never completely shed of air. NEver had any problems whatsoever. Recipe: -10F in my deep freezer for 3 days, 6 hours in the frig, then unpack and store away. Smoke at your leisure. Mr. Biscuit has a valid point - the air is fine. Double-bag and go.

NCRadioMan · 06-16-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherlockholms

Lol, go ahead and disregard my rambling.

Re-reading my post I came off a bit harsh. Sorry for that.

06-16-2011, 07:39 PM

Np, I should have found some info first before posting. I'm sure it just confused Jake more then it did help him. I was going off of memory, and you are more experienced then I am in this matter! Thanks for your info and input Chutney.

06-26-2011, 11:49 PM

Finished freezing my first bundle today and i didnt screw anything up thanks to this thread

07-13-2011, 07:26 AM

Cryonics (from Greek kryos- meaning icy cold) is the low-temperature preservation of humans and animals who can no longer be sustained by contemporary medicine, with the hope that healing and resuscitation may be possible in the future. Cryopreservation of people or large animals is not reversible with current technology.

icehog3 · 07-13-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thermal

Cryonics (from Greek kryos- meaning icy cold) is the low-temperature preservation of humans and animals who can no longer be sustained by contemporary medicine, with the hope that healing and resuscitation may be possible in the future. Cryopreservation of people or large animals is not reversible with current technology.

Yeah, great. This thread is about freezing cigars. I know you feel you have to post something to justify your vendor links, but can you make that something cigar related?

massphatness · 07-13-2011, 11:05 AM

But is cryopreservation of cigars reversible, Tom? I have heard serious wrapper damage can occur.

icehog3 · 07-13-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by massphatness

But is cryopreservation of cigars reversible, Tom? I have heard serious wrapper damage can occur.

Vin, the last time I cryopreserved my cigars, I actually went back in time.

massphatness · 07-13-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Vin, the last time I cryopreserved my cigars, I actually went back in time.

Maybe I'll try that -- I'd like to go back to when I fit into size 36 Levis -- when I was 15.

icehog3 · 07-13-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by massphatness

Maybe I'll try that -- I'd like to go back to when I fit into size 36 Levis -- when I was 15.

I enjoyed the past, until I found out there was no microwave popcorn before microwave ovens were invented.

CigarNut · 07-13-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Vin, the last time I cryopreserved my cigars, I actually went back in time.

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I enjoyed the past, until I found out there was no microwave popcorn before microwave ovens were invented.

Didn't know you were old enough to even remember a time before microwave popcorn Admiral!

icehog3 · 07-13-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

Didn't know you were old enough to even remember a time before microwave popcorn Admiral!

My Mom bought the original Amana microwave when they came out, I think that thing weighed 150 pounds, Michael.

CigarNut · 07-13-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

My Mom bought the original Amana microwave when they came out, I think that thing weighed 150 pounds, Michael.

We had one of those too -- it was a "Radar Range"... Big, Clunky, and very cool at the time

It was so big it did not fit on the counter and we had to get a little table for it...

07-25-2011, 05:55 PM

Well I am paranoid now lol. Should I freeze my whole stash now?

DPD6030 · 07-25-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallbright

Well I am paranoid now lol. Should I freeze my whole stash now?

yes

08-11-2011, 11:43 AM

Can you freeze them too long? Reason I am asking is I have some new cigars and my humidor is set to be delivered today. Can I freeze them while I season the humidor?? Or should I wait and store them in tupperware untill I get the humidor squared away and then freeze them for storage?

T.G · 08-11-2011, 11:51 AM

Just freeze them when they come in, then put them in the tupperware while you wait for the humidor to be ready.

As for too long, depends. A week? Nah. 10 days? Nah. A month? Yeah, probably, but depends a lot on the freezer. Not that it'll physically hurt the cigars so much as they might start to pick up that wonderful "freezer/frost taste" after that long if it's one that cycles tempratures a lot or is opened often (like most home refrigerator/freezer combos).

Devanmc · 08-11-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nosdog2

Can you freeze them too long? Reason I am asking is I have some new cigars and my humidor is set to be delivered today. Can I freeze them while I season the humidor?? Or should I wait and store them in tupperware untill I get the humidor squared away and then freeze them for storage?

well i did a huge batch freeze of everything in a brothers meat freezer. we forgot about a bag of sticks. they were cheapies but i think they were frozen for 3weeks. They are smoking fine.

Blak Smyth · 08-11-2011, 12:26 PM

Do I understand the OP correctly?
At 32 degrees it would take 1176 hours to ensure beetles of all stages are killed?

"0 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1176 hr"

06-16-2011, 07:35 PM	#222
jjirons69 Haberdasher Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jamie Location: Chucktown, SC Posts: 4,120 Trading: (94)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Froze many a box, never completely shed of air. NEver had any problems whatsoever. Recipe: -10F in my deep freezer for 3 days, 6 hours in the frig, then unpack and store away. Smoke at your leisure. Mr. Biscuit has a valid point - the air is fine. Double-bag and go. __________________ Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes

06-16-2011, 07:39 PM	#224
Sherlockholms Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Np, I should have found some info first before posting. I'm sure it just confused Jake more then it did help him. I was going off of memory, and you are more experienced then I am in this matter! Thanks for your info and input Chutney.

06-26-2011, 11:49 PM	#225
kneedragger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Finished freezing my first bundle today and i didnt screw anything up thanks to this thread

07-13-2011, 07:26 AM	#226
thermal Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Cryonics (from Greek kryos- meaning icy cold) is the low-temperature preservation of humans and animals who can no longer be sustained by contemporary medicine, with the hope that healing and resuscitation may be possible in the future. Cryopreservation of people or large animals is not reversible with current technology. Last edited by pnoon; 07-13-2011 at 09:12 AM.

07-13-2011, 11:05 AM	#228
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,690 Trading: (206)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post But is cryopreservation of cigars reversible, Tom? I have heard serious wrapper damage can occur. __________________ *Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE*

07-25-2011, 05:55 PM	#235
Tyler Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Well I am paranoid now lol. Should I freeze my whole stash now?

08-11-2011, 11:43 AM	#237
nosdog2 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Can you freeze them too long? Reason I am asking is I have some new cigars and my humidor is set to be delivered today. Can I freeze them while I season the humidor?? Or should I wait and store them in tupperware untill I get the humidor squared away and then freeze them for storage?

08-11-2011, 11:51 AM	#238
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Just freeze them when they come in, then put them in the tupperware while you wait for the humidor to be ready. As for too long, depends. A week? Nah. 10 days? Nah. A month? Yeah, probably, but depends a lot on the freezer. Not that it'll physically hurt the cigars so much as they might start to pick up that wonderful "freezer/frost taste" after that long if it's one that cycles tempratures a lot or is opened often (like most home refrigerator/freezer combos). Last edited by T.G; 08-11-2011 at 11:59 AM.

08-11-2011, 12:26 PM	#240
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Do I understand the OP correctly? At 32 degrees it would take 1176 hours to ensure beetles of all stages are killed? "0 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1176 hr" __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

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