Tatuaje Saints & Sinners club

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[marge796]

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Chris.....

[Trent0341]

Originally Posted by muhren

You're thinking he's not generating income from the sign-up fee?

I'm basing this on a fellow (manufacturer) I spoke on the phone with who let slip that they sell to retailers at about 50% of what's charged. This was on a particular stick, but still, I would think around 11K of that is profit.

But, he would have to pay for web programming as well. Shipping, etc. So, maybe less...I guess he's not making half profit, but he (or anyone for that matter) is not in business to break even.

M

Mike,
I agree with what you're saying. I just don't think that $20-30k is going to make much difference on his bottom line. I know some people say he's doing this for the money and like you said he isn't in business to break even but I don't think this is going to make or break him. All the best, Dan

[KidRock]

Originally Posted by Trent0341

Mike,
I agree with what you're saying. I just don't think that $20-30k is going to make much difference on his bottom line. I know some people say he's doing this for the money and like you said he isn't in business to break even but I don't think this is going to make or break him. All the best, Dan

agreed, excellent post!

[muhren]

Originally Posted by Trent0341

Mike,
I agree with what you're saying. I just don't think that $20-30k is going to make much difference on his bottom line. I know some people say he's doing this for the money and like you said he isn't in business to break even but I don't think this is going to make or break him. All the best, Dan

D,

True dat! Even if it's a loss leader it gets a captive audience ready to buy whatever is new....ya know. IF he makes money...plus for him!

Side note for everyone else...

IF you sign up (I know some of you have) stop in the new member section and say hey (I'm the same screen name)...so I know who to add to my friend list!

M

[muhren]

FWIW - I was inspired by the group and made a piece to show my enjoyment thus far!

It can be found HERE

M

[xlc12rf]

On ym drive to work today, I was thinking this:

for those of you who did not 'invest' in the club, how did it affect your tat buying?

I'll preface this with saying I am an occasional cigar smoker. Maybe 4-5 a month. I am a total tat whore, with probably 85% of what I smoke being tat. However, since I can't justify a membership to the club, i now feel slighted, even though I am a regular customer. As such, I'd have to say that I have been buying more Fuentes lately, swinging the tat percentage to more like 15%. Any others notice the same thing?

[muhren]

Originally Posted by xlc12rf

On ym drive to work today, I was thinking this:

for those of you who did not 'invest' in the club, how did it affect your tat buying?

I'll preface this with saying I am an occasional cigar smoker. Maybe 4-5 a month. I am a total tat whore, with probably 85% of what I smoke being tat. However, since I can't justify a membership to the club, i now feel slighted, even though I am a regular customer. As such, I'd have to say that I have been buying more Fuentes lately, swinging the tat percentage to more like 15%. Any others notice the same thing?

A good question! I wonder if the 80/20 rule still applies, or if the club has changed that.

The rule of thumb being (quote from wikipedia):
"80% of your sales come from 20% of your clients"

There are only 200 (ish) members. I doubt that is 20% of the buyers.

Thoughts?

M

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by xlc12rf

On ym drive to work today, I was thinking this:

for those of you who did not 'invest' in the club, how did it affect your tat buying?

I'll preface this with saying I am an occasional cigar smoker. Maybe 4-5 a month. I am a total tat whore, with probably 85% of what I smoke being tat. However, since I can't justify a membership to the club, i now feel slighted, even though I am a regular customer. As such, I'd have to say that I have been buying more Fuentes lately, swinging the tat percentage to more like 15%. Any others notice the same thing?

I'll buy the original Brown label line all day long. I did the special release thing with Tats in the beginning. Then I smoked them and realized I liked the Brown's much better than anything else produced, especially the limited release stuff. Plus, since they are made in the ERdLH factory, the quality is unlikely to change.

[xlc12rf]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I'll buy the original Brown label line all day long. I did the special release thing with Tats in the beginning. Then I smoked them and realized I liked the Brown's much better than anything else produced, especially the limited release stuff. Plus, since they are made in the ERdLH factory, the quality is unlikely to change.

Yeah, the existence of the club doesn't change my enjoyment of the J21 brown label, or the black tubos. I'm not going to say I don't buy Tat anymore, but I kinda feel, I don't know how to explain it, unimportant?

[NCRadioMan]

You shouldn't feel unimportant. There are many, many cigars from many companies that most of us can't get their hands on.

C'est la vie!

Here is something to always remember:

[Ranger_B]

I dont see any issues with it. His cigars have not changed. If I only smoked 4-5 smokes a month then I would not look into the club either. However I really enjoy Tats and smoke probably 5-7 of those a week. That being said I like finding out where and when to get the new releases so that I have a leg up on the people who are not in the club. No it does not mean I am more important that any of the non club members. It just means that having the opportunity to possibly be first in line is worth the price of membership. Well that and whatever is in the sampler that comes with it. Kinda like CRA many people smoke but do not join CRA. It does not mean that they dont care about smoking legislation it is just not worth the price of membership in there mind.

[elderboy02]

I am enjoying my membership. Pete is giving us a heads up on what is coming down the pike, new cigars, etc.

[xlc12rf]

Yeah, its no big deal. Just something I realized this morning. The cigars don't all of a sudden suck, so I'll continue to smoke what I want.

I never chased the limiteds anyway, so no big deal. I just want more black label!

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by elderboy02

I am enjoying my membership. Pete is giving us a heads up on what is coming down the pike, new cigars, etc.

Yeah, there are alot of them scheduled for this year.

http://thecigarfeed.com/2011CigarReleases

[elderboy02]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yeah, there are alot of them scheduled for this year.

http://thecigarfeed.com/2011CigarReleases

Yep. There sure are a lot of them coming out. I love it

[Ranger_B]

Nice thing is it seems most of whats coming out is not a very limited release. Should get some people off his back for a little while.

[replicant_argent]

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refrain...



Just curious, who lives with the 14 year old girl?




But I digress....



I do love them smokes, when I can afford them.


I better check my fridge to see if I can catch it.

[bvilchez]

Originally Posted by muhren

FWIW - I was inspired by the group and made a piece to show my enjoyment thus far!

It can be found HERE

M

Mike just a heads up...

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/announcement.php?f=5

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by xlc12rf

I never chased the limiteds anyway...

I'd much rather find solid smokes that I'll be able to get my hands on a year from now.
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