Cigar shoplifter caught in the act.

MurphysLaw · 03-19-2011, 08:48 AM

Thursday night I made a stop at a Drew Estate event at a local B&M after seeing a special offer on facebook to get my hands on an unreleased cigar.
While I was sitting in the shop enjoying the JdN Antano 1970 they offered me from the event (drooling thinking about the "Ratzilla" sitting in my pocket), and having a conversation with a new friend. I overheard the owner of the shop cussing out an older guy, then directing one of the employees to call the cops. It turns out this guy was seen shoving some cigars into his pocket before he walked up to the register to pay for a couple other cigars.

Once the cops showed up they talked to the owner and went into the back to watch the surveillance tape (his actions were caught on camera as well). I'm not sure of the final outcome. I don't think the old guy was given a new pair of silver bracelets, which isn't unusual for a misdemeanor in this county, officers can give someone a court date instead of hauling someone off to jail for minor offenses. I did see a written trespass notice, so if the old guy comes back, he can go to jail for trespassing.

The whole thing really pi$$ed us off, but it was great watching the guy get caught, have to deal with the cops, and now to be banned from the shop. It was the only down point of an otherwise cool event, with lots of nice giveaways and Marvin Samel from DE singing with the Rod Stewart tribute band playing outside.

68TriShield · 03-19-2011, 08:56 AM

Sounds like an awesome event,sans the schmuck.
Kudos to the staff for being vigilant too,it's not a easy task in the midst of a well attended event.

Blueface · 03-19-2011, 09:01 AM

Yup.

I got a summons with a court date.

I am banned for 6 months.

They never found the one that I placed in that special place.

Can't use that disguise again.

yourchoice · 03-19-2011, 09:37 AM

And people wonder why shop owners hover around a new customer. Good for them that they caught him.

HollywoodQue · 03-19-2011, 09:52 AM

Good that the owner was paying attention!!! Nice caught!

mosesbotbol · 03-19-2011, 10:16 AM

How about shut the cameras off and teach him a lesson? No need to call the police.

maninblack · 03-19-2011, 10:25 AM

Wow glad they caught him. That old fart must be really addicted to cigars if he felt the need to steal them. Schmuck is right. If they really wanted to punish him, DE should gave given him one of their Acid cigars. Or a Gurkha.

Stinky · 03-19-2011, 10:27 AM

recently I saw one a video on YouTube showing an older couple. . . man distracting the employee while the old woman slipped cigars ($700 worth) into the big bag (huge purse) on her shoulder.

IDEA:

Display a nice plaque that says:
"Security Video Streaming Live"
in smaller type it would say:
"When YOU entered this Cigar Store, you granted permission to publish videos of your shopping habits."

Bwahhha ha haa ha! ! ! Now how do you like me, you thief!???

mosesbotbol · 03-19-2011, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack

Wow glad they caught him. That old fart must be really addicted to cigars if he felt the need to steal them.

He's just a crook, nothing more. It's not that he does not know right from wrong.

Tio Gato · 03-19-2011, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface

They never found the one that I placed in that special place.

So now it's a maduro?

JJG · 03-19-2011, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack

Wow glad they caught him. That old fart must be really addicted to cigars if he felt the need to steal them.

That was my thought. What a sh*tty thing to do. I can understand a hungry person stealing food because they're starving. (not saying it's right, but I understand) This guy just thought he could get away with not paying for something that he didn't even need in the first place. plain and simple.

AUguy · 03-19-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice

And people wonder why shop owners hover around a new customer. Good for them that they caught him.

I understand that shop owners have a lot invested in their stock, but if they are so paranoid then they should put in a good camera system and keep an eye on you that way. It is a huge turn off for me when someone stands right behind me the whole time I am shopping. There are 2 B&Ms I stopped going to because of that.

I know it has to be tough catching people steal something that they can fit in their pockets, but give me a little space.

guado · 03-19-2011, 03:30 PM

Tony(issues) caught a guy locally. Funny part was the guy was a very wealthy surgeon in the area. When his wife caught wind of the incident by the police showing up to her house looking for him...well....lets just say she was PISSED.

GolfNut · 03-19-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JJG

I can understand a hungry person stealing food because they're starving. (not saying it's right, but I understand)

Too many stray cats in the world to ever need to "steal" food.

Chris. · 03-19-2011, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tio Gato

So now it's a maduro?

03-19-2011, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tio Gato

So now it's a maduro?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris.

Bill86 · 03-19-2011, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack

If they really wanted to punish him, DE should gave given him one of their Acid cigars. Or a Gurkha.

This, they should have made him smoke the worst f**king cigar ever...and NUB IT! Or make him do like a cremosa, than gorilla finger then a dirty cat urine infused gurkha, nubbing all of them or facing prosecution.

And of course once he is done they should ask him if he wants anymore "free" cigars. Knowing full well they have plenty more ACIDS and Gurkhas.

I'll never understand why anyone would steal B&M sticks. I mean I get the prices suck but hey order online.

Isom-niac2 · 03-19-2011, 06:54 PM

I'm not sure what laws are on the books there, but in Cali the severity of the crime, misdemeanor vs felony is based on the dollar amount of the items taken. In fact Jan 2011, petty theft jumped from $401 to $950 to make it a felony. Also, any prior thefts, parole or probation status would be considered before letting the guy go.

Sounds like he got the right cops (non-botl), cuz I would have booked him and put him in the cell with LeRoy!!

thebayratt · 03-19-2011, 08:28 PM

Its a shame the guy did that.
People like that is why we have to pay higher and higher prices on stuff and employees can't get decent raises anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

How about shut the cameras off and teach him a lesson? No need to call the police.

THATS RIGHT!!!
Give him two options.
1. We call the cops
2. We take you out back by the dumpster and rough you up.
Your choice!

Simple assult in my town is a $250 ticket... I think it would have been worth it. I can't stand a thief, no matter how much it is.

nick2021 · 03-19-2011, 09:17 PM

Glad they caught him, hate thieves...especially for something like cigars!

03-19-2011, 08:48 AM	#1
MurphysLaw Anything can go wrong Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Brian Location: SoFlo Posts: 2,823 Trading: (19)	Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. Thursday night I made a stop at a Drew Estate event at a local B&M after seeing a special offer on facebook to get my hands on an unreleased cigar. While I was sitting in the shop enjoying the JdN Antano 1970 they offered me from the event (drooling thinking about the "Ratzilla" sitting in my pocket), and having a conversation with a new friend. I overheard the owner of the shop cussing out an older guy, then directing one of the employees to call the cops. It turns out this guy was seen shoving some cigars into his pocket before he walked up to the register to pay for a couple other cigars. Once the cops showed up they talked to the owner and went into the back to watch the surveillance tape (his actions were caught on camera as well). I'm not sure of the final outcome. I don't think the old guy was given a new pair of silver bracelets, which isn't unusual for a misdemeanor in this county, officers can give someone a court date instead of hauling someone off to jail for minor offenses. I did see a written trespass notice, so if the old guy comes back, he can go to jail for trespassing. The whole thing really pi$$ed us off, but it was great watching the guy get caught, have to deal with the cops, and now to be banned from the shop. It was the only down point of an otherwise cool event, with lots of nice giveaways and Marvin Samel from DE singing with the Rod Stewart tribute band playing outside. __________________ It's THIS easy to help our Troops.

03-19-2011, 08:56 AM	#2
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. Sounds like an awesome event,sans the schmuck. Kudos to the staff for being vigilant too,it's not a easy task in the midst of a well attended event.

03-19-2011, 09:01 AM	#3
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. Yup. I got a summons with a court date. I am banned for 6 months. They never found the one that I placed in that special place. Can't use that disguise again. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

03-19-2011, 09:37 AM	#4
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,095 Trading: (36)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. And people wonder why shop owners hover around a new customer. Good for them that they caught him.

03-19-2011, 09:52 AM	#5
HollywoodQue Invictus Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Howard Location: In the "D" Posts: 3,123 Trading: (46)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. Good that the owner was paying attention!!! Nice caught!

03-19-2011, 10:16 AM	#6
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. How about shut the cameras off and teach him a lesson? No need to call the police. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

03-19-2011, 10:25 AM	#7
maninblack Will smoke for food Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Kevin Location: Where the hoot owls f$ck the chickens Posts: 10,637 Trading: (80)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. Wow glad they caught him. That old fart must be really addicted to cigars if he felt the need to steal them. Schmuck is right. If they really wanted to punish him, DE should gave given him one of their Acid cigars. Or a Gurkha. __________________ Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

03-19-2011, 10:27 AM	#8
Stinky Join CigarRights.org NOW! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Stinky Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 229 Trading: (1)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. recently I saw one a video on YouTube showing an older couple. . . man distracting the employee while the old woman slipped cigars ($700 worth) into the big bag (huge purse) on her shoulder. IDEA: Display a nice plaque that says: "Security Video Streaming Live" in smaller type it would say: "*When YOU entered this Cigar Store, you granted permission to publish videos of your shopping habits.*" Bwahhha ha haa ha! ! ! Now how do you like me, you thief!??? __________________ Promoting the Enjoyment of Fine Cigars!

03-19-2011, 03:30 PM	#13
guado OCD cigar hoarder Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 379 Trading: (4)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. Tony(issues) caught a guy locally. Funny part was the guy was a very wealthy surgeon in the area. When his wife caught wind of the incident by the police showing up to her house looking for him...well....lets just say she was PISSED. __________________

03-19-2011, 06:54 PM	#18
Isom-niac2 puff puff pass Join Date: Oct 2009 First Name: Deano Location: Santa Clarita Posts: 136 Trading: (1)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. I'm not sure what laws are on the books there, but in Cali the severity of the crime, misdemeanor vs felony is based on the dollar amount of the items taken. In fact Jan 2011, petty theft jumped from $401 to $950 to make it a felony. Also, any prior thefts, parole or probation status would be considered before letting the guy go. Sounds like he got the right cops (non-botl), cuz I would have booked him and put him in the cell with LeRoy!!

03-19-2011, 09:17 PM	#20
nick2021 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 436 Trading: (17)	Re: Cigar shoplifter caught in the act. Glad they caught him, hate thieves...especially for something like cigars! __________________ It's one thing to be stupid, it's dangerous for a stupid person to think he's smart!

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