Ventilation for indoor smoking

AAlmeter · 02-03-2009, 05:38 PM

As the essential items of my home renovation (such as a functioning bathroom) are wrapping up, I'm moving on towards the ones that are a little more fun.

Half of the basement will be turned into a bar-type area. Pergo floors (in case of flood), paneled walls, bar, tap, etc.

I'd like to also provide some sort of ventilation for this area so smoking won't be a problem. I can easily run ductwork outside, as I'll be putting on new siding once the weather breaks.

I'm looking for some input on sourcing and sizing ventilation equipment. Likely looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 sqft (2800cuft of air).

Flatsix · 02-03-2009, 05:49 PM

Adam, I've been in ventilation since 1983. If you want some help sizing and selecting a fan, PM me with your phone number and I'll call you back.

Gregg

AAlmeter · 02-03-2009, 07:21 PM

PM sent

markem · 02-03-2009, 07:28 PM

I have some good friends who converted a basement bedroom into a cool bar. The house is on a slope, so there is a good size window on one wall. A small, simple box fan has always worked for them.

For a larger area, like yours, I'll bet you need some sort of overhead ducting.

AAlmeter · 02-03-2009, 07:42 PM

Overhead ducting is essentially what I'm betting on, especially since there will be no windows for this area.

But I have no idea how many cfm is necessary, the number of fans, any sort of fresh air inlet, keeping all vents properly insulated, etc.

02-03-2009, 09:51 PM

I'm sure I don't know as much about Flatsix, but as I understand it, don't go overboard on the CFM's (especially if you have a gas or oil furnace), size it properly to the room. Also as far as I could tell (as of a few years ago) Panasonic seems to make the quietest bathroom fans, if that is how you are going to power it. I believe they also make very powerful inline fans too. I don't have any of these things, but I did a fair amount of research for a pet project that never got off the ground. Good luck with yours!

DocLogic77 · 02-03-2009, 09:55 PM

I know this might sound odd but I have a smoking room in my basement...and I don't have any real ventilation system set up. I have hard wood floors, leather couches and not a speck of fiber that can absorb smoke. I smoke 10-15 cigars a week in this room...and it has no smell of cigars in the basement by the next day.

HK3- · 02-03-2009, 10:08 PM

For the fan.... go big or go home.

I was directed to a helpful company by a member of the site here.

I ended up taking his advice and purchased mine here- http://www.fantech.net/fkd.htm

My room is a little over 400 square feet and I went with the FKD 10 XL 1,266 CFM inline fan. I'm not smoking in the room yet but it appears that it will do the trick.

02-07-2009, 06:17 PM

Check this out

http://www.smokeeaters.org/cigar/

We have 7 Trion SE 800 in our lounge.

mikey burr · 02-09-2009, 11:32 PM

Ventilation for indoor smoking?!... you dont need ventilation!!! breath in all the cigar goodness!

02-03-2009, 05:38 PM	#1
AAlmeter F.U.B.O. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: Buffalo Posts: 288 Trading: (0)	Ventilation for indoor smoking As the essential items of my home renovation (such as a functioning bathroom) are wrapping up, I'm moving on towards the ones that are a little more fun. Half of the basement will be turned into a bar-type area. Pergo floors (in case of flood), paneled walls, bar, tap, etc. I'd like to also provide some sort of ventilation for this area so smoking won't be a problem. I can easily run ductwork outside, as I'll be putting on new siding once the weather breaks. I'm looking for some input on sourcing and sizing ventilation equipment. Likely looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 sqft (2800cuft of air).

02-03-2009, 05:49 PM	#2
Flatsix Just in from the Storm Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Upland, CA Posts: 46 Trading: (0)	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking Adam, I've been in ventilation since 1983. If you want some help sizing and selecting a fan, PM me with your phone number and I'll call you back. Gregg

02-03-2009, 07:21 PM	#3
AAlmeter F.U.B.O. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: Buffalo Posts: 288 Trading: (0)	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking PM sent

02-03-2009, 07:28 PM	#4
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking I have some good friends who converted a basement bedroom into a cool bar. The house is on a slope, so there is a good size window on one wall. A small, simple box fan has always worked for them. For a larger area, like yours, I'll bet you need some sort of overhead ducting. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

02-03-2009, 07:42 PM	#5
AAlmeter F.U.B.O. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: Buffalo Posts: 288 Trading: (0)	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking Overhead ducting is essentially what I'm betting on, especially since there will be no windows for this area. But I have no idea how many cfm is necessary, the number of fans, any sort of fresh air inlet, keeping all vents properly insulated, etc.

02-03-2009, 09:51 PM	#6
totallytentative Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking I'm sure I don't know as much about Flatsix, but as I understand it, don't go overboard on the CFM's (especially if you have a gas or oil furnace), size it properly to the room. Also as far as I could tell (as of a few years ago) Panasonic seems to make the quietest bathroom fans, if that is how you are going to power it. I believe they also make very powerful inline fans too. I don't have any of these things, but I did a fair amount of research for a pet project that never got off the ground. Good luck with yours!

02-03-2009, 09:55 PM	#7
DocLogic77 Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Shawn Location: Deliverance Country Posts: 504 Trading: (1)	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking I know this might sound odd but I have a smoking room in my basement...and I don't have any real ventilation system set up. I have hard wood floors, leather couches and not a speck of fiber that can absorb smoke. I smoke 10-15 cigars a week in this room...and it has no smell of cigars in the basement by the next day. __________________ Talent wins games...heart wins championships. Go Steelers!

02-03-2009, 10:08 PM	#8
HK3- Cashmere Jungle Lord Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Boffa Location: The town so nice they named it twice Posts: 5,035 Trading: (48)	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking For the fan.... go big or go home. I was directed to a helpful company by a member of the site here. I ended up taking his advice and purchased mine here- http://www.fantech.net/fkd.htm My room is a little over 400 square feet and I went with the FKD 10 XL 1,266 CFM inline fan. I'm not smoking in the room yet but it appears that it will do the trick.

02-07-2009, 06:17 PM	#9
AzonCigars Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking Check this out http://www.smokeeaters.org/cigar/ We have 7 Trion SE 800 in our lounge.

02-09-2009, 11:32 PM	#10
mikey burr make em say UUUGGGHHHH!!! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: mike Location: BAY AREA, CALI. Posts: 46 Trading: (0)	Re: Ventilation for indoor smoking Ventilation for indoor smoking?!... you dont need ventilation!!! breath in all the cigar goodness! __________________ "It aint no fun, if the homies can't have none"-Nate Dogg